Are you sure probiotics are good for you?

DrBroPHD
DrBroPHD Posts: 245 Member
in Food and Nutrition
Because whenever I get sick the doctor gives me antibotics and I feel better
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  • MidwestAngel
    MidwestAngel Posts: 1,897 Member
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  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Because whenever I get sick the doctor gives me antibotics and I feel better

    By "feel better"--what do you mean? If you mean that you feel better digestively, it may be because you have some nasty bacteria that have overwhelmed your gut and you need the antibiotics to knock them off. There are different mixes of "good" bacteria for the gut--experiment to find the one that is right for you. One that most everyone seems to like is called "Bio-K".

    Interestingly, researchers have discovered that obese folk have different "critters" in their gut than normal weight folk (not that that pertains to your issue but is an interesting tidbit of information).
  • plateaued
    plateaued Posts: 199 Member
    Yes.

    Last month I had a case of raging diarrhea cause by a bactieria given to me by a friend in Mexico who was studying the little critters. The meds did nothing but slow the peristalsys according to the label. Peristalsys has nothing to do with diarrhea. At best such meds only slow the intervals but they don't even do that

    After 4 days, I said screw-it and bought some probiotics, which I thought were nonsense until then. it worked within 3 hours.
  • kimosabe1
    kimosabe1 Posts: 2,467 Member
    if u are having problems pooping, probiotics are the best thing u can take to realign your system. I take them every couple of months when I have problems.
  • stargazer008
    stargazer008 Posts: 531
    I hope you are joking.
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    @the diarrhea poster: slowing down peristalsis is a terrible idea. You have the problem because whatever's causing the issue, your body wants it gone. fast. slowing down the system will just get you sicker.

    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.
  • DrBroPHD
    DrBroPHD Posts: 245 Member
    I hope you are joking.

    This hurts. I thought this was a safe place for me to ask questions
  • psych0kitty
    psych0kitty Posts: 313
    Antibiotics should be used VERY sparingly. Most bacteria is good for us, and antibiotics generally kill everything. When my husband got terrible food poisoning, the ER gave him Cipro and some other AB and his system got so messed up. I put him on a yogurt regimen and he got better. Please note, when I say yogurt, I mean the real thing with real bacteria, not Yoplait BS.
  • plateaued
    plateaued Posts: 199 Member
    "@the diarrhea poster: slowing down peristalsis is a terrible idea. You have the problem because whatever's causing the issue, your body wants it gone. fast. slowing down the system will just get you sicker."

    Exactly!. When I read the Immodium label,I couldn't believe it. And yet people buy and use Immodium. It must be pure placebo effect.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Antibiotics should be used VERY sparingly. Most bacteria is good for us, and antibiotics generally kill everything. When my husband got terrible food poisoning, the ER gave him Cipro and some other AB and his system got so messed up. I put him on a yogurt regimen and he got better. Please note, when I say yogurt, I mean the real thing with real bacteria, not Yoplait BS.

    Yeah, the sweetened and flavored stuff is not as good for you as the plain yogurt because the sugar kills off the good bacteria (something to think about when indulging one's "sweet tooth").
  • dollylohaze
    dollylohaze Posts: 15
    They sure are. I have celiac's disease, lactose intolerance and IBS and after taking probiotics I admit there was a week of dodginess, but now that good gut bacteria levels are restored, I feel fabulous. They're great, although they can cause something of an upset stomach at first, whilst the good bacteria battle the bad in your gut.
  • toddis
    toddis Posts: 941 Member
    Probiotics are great if you have the money to burn or plan to eat the food sources consistently for the rest of your life. Otherwise just eat moldy bread and kill em all.
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
    Anti-biotics kill off your good bacteria in your gut. Pro-biotics replace them. I believe you should take pro-biotics, or drink kefir now and then to get the good bacteria in population in your gut.
  • Emtabo01
    Emtabo01 Posts: 672
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.
  • toddis
    toddis Posts: 941 Member
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.
  • Rosplosion
    Rosplosion Posts: 739 Member
    OK, so antibiotics are just that. ANTI-biotics. They kill *all* the bacteria in your system in an effort to rid your system of whatever is ailing it. Kind of like a carpet bomb, antibiotics are totally indiscriminate.

    When you were a wee baby (hopefully) you were breastfed - passing essential bacteria (among many other things of course) from your mother to you so that it might colonize in your colon (latin is funny, huh?). Of course there are many other ways that bacteria enter your system including through breathing and eating. So along the way we all developed what is called "gut flora" meaning the balance of beneficial and not-so-beneficial bacteria. This balance help in digestion and assimilation of food particles in the small and large intestines.

    I repeat: antibiotics kill EVERYTHING bacteria. If you want to help restore your gut flora taking probiotics is a good way to do that.

    ETA: One of the goodies lactobacillus acidophilus

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  • stefaniealvarado39
    stefaniealvarado39 Posts: 12
    There is no medical literature that currently supports that probiotics work as intended. That being said, I always give them when I prescribe antibiotics, especially to kids.
  • stefaniealvarado39
    stefaniealvarado39 Posts: 12
    OK, so antibiotics are just that. ANTI-biotics. They kill *all* the bacteria in your system in an effort to rid your system of whatever is ailing it. Kind of like a carpet bomb, antibiotics are totally indiscriminate.

    When you were a wee baby (hopefully) you were breastfed - passing essential bacteria (among many other things of course) from your mother to you so that it might colonize in your colon (latin is funny, huh?). Of course there are many other ways that bacteria enter your system including through breathing and eating. So along the way we all developed what is called "gut flora" meaning the balance of beneficial and not-so-beneficial bacteria. This balance help in digestion and assimilation of food particles in the small and large instestines.

    I repeat: antibiotics kill EVERYTHING bacteria. If you want to help restore your gut flora taking probiotics is a good way to do that.

    They actually don't. Antibiotics are broken up into classes based on what types of bacteria then are effective against. Amoxicilan, for example, is a beta lactam and interferes with peptotidiglycan which is only in gram + bacteria cell walls. A gram - enteric bacteria, like what's in your intestines, is not affected by it.
  • stefaniealvarado39
    stefaniealvarado39 Posts: 12
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.

    It's actually a treatment for clostridium difficle infections that have proven resistance to antibiotics. =)
  • Dmvisco
    Dmvisco Posts: 2
    I think you are confusing antibiotics and probiotics...not the same thing
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Because whenever I get sick the doctor gives me antibotics and I feel better

    trolling troll is trolling, but probiotics are the shizz nit.

    everybody should be taking them.
  • HaleyxErin
    HaleyxErin Posts: 94 Member
    different bacteria, though I am almost certain you are being facetious
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    There ain't no bugs in me.
    There ain't no bugs in me.
    There might be bugs in some of your guts.
    But there ain't no bugs in me.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.

    they're not as bad if they're refrigerated. now... probiotics you DON'T have to refrigerate are probably BS.

    but hell, just drink Kefir or other live culture yogurt and fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, etc. or better yet, do both. :)
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.

    they're not as bad if they're refrigerated. now... probiotics you DON'T have to refrigerate are probably BS.

    but hell, just drink Kefir or other live culture yogurt and fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, etc. or better yet, do both. :)

    ^^^THIS^^^ Pro-biotics along with a better diet are all that most people need. One of the problems with our high-sugar diets is that sugar kills off the good bacteria and promotes the bad ones (along with promoting nasty fungi as well). The human gut is lined with immune cells and those immune cells do not function well without the symbiotic relationship that they are supposed to have with intestinal bacteria. Sugar is a killer in a great many ways.
  • tracieangeletti
    tracieangeletti Posts: 432 Member
    Fecal transplant?? WTH??
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.

    they're not as bad if they're refrigerated. now... probiotics you DON'T have to refrigerate are probably BS.

    but hell, just drink Kefir or other live culture yogurt and fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, etc. or better yet, do both. :)

    ^^^THIS^^^ Pro-biotics along with a better diet are all that most people need. One of the problems with our high-sugar diets is that sugar kills off the good bacteria and promotes the bad ones (along with promoting nasty fungi as well). The human gut is lined with immune cells and those immune cells do not function well without the symbiotic relationship that they are supposed to have with intestinal bacteria. Sugar is a killer in a great many ways.

    Not sure if there is any valdity but considering the source I would guess this is mostly made up.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.

    they're not as bad if they're refrigerated. now... probiotics you DON'T have to refrigerate are probably BS.

    but hell, just drink Kefir or other live culture yogurt and fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, etc. or better yet, do both. :)

    ^^^THIS^^^ Pro-biotics along with a better diet are all that most people need. One of the problems with our high-sugar diets is that sugar kills off the good bacteria and promotes the bad ones (along with promoting nasty fungi as well). The human gut is lined with immune cells and those immune cells do not function well without the symbiotic relationship that they are supposed to have with intestinal bacteria. Sugar is a killer in a great many ways.

    Not sure if there is any valdity but considering the source I would guess this is mostly made up.

    LOL go ask your IIFYM friends about whether we need bacteria in our stomachs. They'll say yes.
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    @kemosabe: I hear fecal transplants work wonders too.

    I'm a pharmacist and read an article recently that some drug company is making a more publicly accepted version of this in capsule form - they're calling it RePOOPulate. No joke, that's seriously the name.

    I would seriously buy it. Fecal implants are actually proven to work in many cases. Probiotics taken orally as a supplement are quite iffy.

    they're not as bad if they're refrigerated. now... probiotics you DON'T have to refrigerate are probably BS.

    but hell, just drink Kefir or other live culture yogurt and fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, etc. or better yet, do both. :)

    ^^^THIS^^^ Pro-biotics along with a better diet are all that most people need. One of the problems with our high-sugar diets is that sugar kills off the good bacteria and promotes the bad ones (along with promoting nasty fungi as well). The human gut is lined with immune cells and those immune cells do not function well without the symbiotic relationship that they are supposed to have with intestinal bacteria. Sugar is a killer in a great many ways.

    Not sure if there is any valdity but considering the source I would guess this is mostly made up.

    LOL go ask your IIFYM friends about whether we need bacteria in our stomachs. They'll say yes.

    I was not debating that and after reading the post again I wasn't referring to your comment as the source. I was referring to mulb comments about sugar killing good bacteria and feeding bad bacteria and growing fungi in your stomach.
  • rissaface
    rissaface Posts: 129 Member
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    HAHAHAHAHA!! I love this. :laugh:

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