Are my testicles ovaries?

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Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

There we go blaming it on men again. I swear, this kind of verbal abuse is almost not even worth making more money on average for the same work. GOD!!

Why does the 2nd one look so much like Simon Cowell..

I thought it was!?! :laugh:

bwahahahahaha I see it too!:laugh:

Why does the 2nd one look so much like Simon Cowell..

I thought it was!?! :laugh:

For what its worth, and pertinent to the case, men get PMS too:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/study-shows-men-also-suffer-from-pms-6988315.html

I get what your saying....
As far as I know, both men and women have both hormones running thru thier bodies. We both have male and female hormones to a certain level. And I'm sure men have "Fat Days" as well as women do.

And PMS. You all have PMS, I'm sure of it.

I think men have PMS worse than women do!!

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

There we go blaming it on men again. I swear, this kind of verbal abuse is almost not even worth making more money on average for the same work. GOD!!

I am going to kindly disagree both with the "male-dominated world" causing fat days, as well as calling that statement "verbal abuse."

In fact, I'm going to say both are a tish extreme... maybe even a bit absurd.

Pickle anyone?

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

Preach it!! :drinker:

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

There we go blaming it on men again. I swear, this kind of verbal abuse is almost not even worth making more money on average for the same work. GOD!!

I am going to kindly disagree both with the "male-dominated world" causing fat days, as well as calling that statement "verbal abuse."

In fact, I'm going to say both are a tish extreme... maybe even a bit absurd.

Pickle anyone?

^ Someone who can respectfully disagree! :happy:

Too bad I hate pickles though.

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

There we go blaming it on men again. I swear, this kind of verbal abuse is almost not even worth making more money on average for the same work. GOD!!

This doesn't even merit a reply. There was nothing abusive about my comment. *eye roll*

Huh, I thought he was just trying to be funny.

He was.

You could have an xy chromosome, but no androgen receptors and then your body would have developed as a female (female brain and female sexual organs). But, you would not have the internal reproductive system of a woman, and when you hit puberty the testicles that are inside your body would start to grow and become uncomfortable. So, you would go to the doctor and that would be the first time you find out. They would need to remove the testicles or else they will become cancerous if left inside the body. Under these circumstances you would have a vagina (no uterus) and the brain of a female, so you would choose to take female hormones which would allow you to develop breasts and go through puberty as a female. I do know that can happen.

Thanks for clearing that up for meeee!! :laugh:

Had to save this one! :laugh:

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

There we go blaming it on men again. I swear, this kind of verbal abuse is almost not even worth making more money on average for the same work. GOD!!

I am going to kindly disagree both with the "male-dominated world" causing fat days, as well as calling that statement "verbal abuse."

In fact, I'm going to say both are a tish extreme... maybe even a bit absurd.

Pickle anyone?

*kitten*. I read you wrong, Brunner *hangs head in shame*

I really do owe you a pickle, now.

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

owned.

I'm still not convinced that it is necessarily the male-dominated portion of society that drives this. I agree with the poster that said women (and girls) do a lot of the things they do for other women (or girls) sake. They do things that most guys would never even notice, but women do.

For example, eyebrows. Why do women spend so much time plucking their eyebrows, or removing them and painting on new ones? I do not know of any guy who has ever looked over a woman as a potential mate and said.. "Check out her eyebrows. She is the girl for me." The same can be said for fashion items. I work with mostly women, and I was surprised the first time I heard someone say, "did you see those shoes she was wearing?" in a snarky way. I had never even looked at the woman's feet, and was about to say something thinking it was joke, when all the other girls started sniping as well. That leads me to believe that the women will comply with the fashion of the day to avoid being sniped by their fellow women behind their back or in front of them.



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I understand where you're coming from, but you're missing the point.

No, men probably don't examine a woman's eyebrows or notice if her outfit doesn't look quite right, but the fact that women feel the need to compete with each other suggests a huge underlying issue. This is the cultural indoctrination I'm talking about.

In my original post I said we live in a "male dominated society." What I DIDN'T say is that women don't pressure each other, and that rigid beauty ideals are all down to the power of men. You read 3 words of my sentence and now you're presenting me with a bit of a straw man argument.

I actually read your entire argument. I agreed with much of it. As I stated in at least one of my replies, much of the impetus and the standards that are setup are completely communicated through the media which is one of the largest establishers of our culture. The one I didn't mention because it is inflammatory is our public eduation system. I won't get into that as it is even further off topic than this has already become.

What I am saying is that I just am not sure that I agree that the male-dominated society is the major contributor. I never said it wasn't a contributor. There is a lot of evidence that shows, as someone else pointed out, that women compete amongst other women for the sperm of the alpha-male. That is biologically driven, and makes sense in the propgation of the gametes in future generations, which from a biological perspecticve is the purpose of everything. In sociobiology, there is an entire field that deals wiht the evolution of sexual behavior. These behaviors are not seen only in humans. I know I am not being complete or very clear in my arguments, because I could fill an entire page on the subject, and I don't want to do that. In the attempt at brevity, I am losing a lot of what I want to say. It's a very complex issue, and deserves a thread of its own to do it justice.

Women don't have fat days because we have ovaries, we have fat days because we live in a male-dominated world with rigid beauty ideals that were culturally ingrained into us from birth.

There we go blaming it on men again. I swear, this kind of verbal abuse is almost not even worth making more money on average for the same work. GOD!!

I am going to kindly disagree both with the "male-dominated world" causing fat days, as well as calling that statement "verbal abuse."

In fact, I'm going to say both are a tish extreme... maybe even a bit absurd.

Pickle anyone?

As long as it isn't a sweet pickle. I'm game.