TED Talk on Processed Food (short)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_DaJKsCLo

I love some processed foods, and will probably never give them up completely. This is an eye-opener, though, and makes me glad I have stopped eating some things...
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  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
    But blue stained intestines......!!!
  • Lialena
    Lialena Posts: 45 Member
    It's interesting, but poorly executed in my opinion. Of course a more complex product with more parts to break up will take longer, whether or not one scares you with mention of a gas related chemical being part of the make-up of the product. She oversimplifies the issues. It looks like the goal was to shock people, so at least is succeeds in that.

    For a more in depth overview of the issues with modern food and it's production have a look at this talk from Mark Bittman:
    http://www.ted.com/talks/mark_bittman_on_what_s_wrong_with_what_we_eat.html

    His talk has it's flaws, but at least has more depth and there is some useful information.

    If after that you suddenly find yourself inspired to be a force for change in your area, then I'd encourage you to also learn about bee deaths, sustainable farming practices (did you know that modern farming is resulting in our top-soil running off into the rivers and out to sea?), and make use of your yards and balconies to grow what you can at home (not just veggies, but also flowers for the birds, bees, and other wildlife in the area).

    Further interesting talks can be found by searching for words like Farm, Soil, and Food on TED, and narrow the search results to just the talks (option on the left side of the results).
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    It's interesting, but poorly executed in my opinion. Of course a more complex product with more parts to break up will take longer, whether or not one scares you with mention of a gas related chemical being part of the make-up of the product. She oversimplifies the issues. It looks like the goal was to shock people, so at least is succeeds in that.

    For a more in depth overview of the issues with modern food and it's production have a look at this talk from Mark Bittman:
    http://www.ted.com/talks/mark_bittman_on_what_s_wrong_with_what_we_eat.html

    His talk has it's flaws, but at least has more depth and there is some useful information.

    If after that you suddenly find yourself inspired to be a force for change in your area, then I'd encourage you to also learn about bee deaths, sustainable farming practices (did you know that modern farming is resulting in our top-soil running off into the rivers and out to sea?), and make use of your yards and balconies to grow what you can at home (not just veggies, but also flowers for the birds, bees, and other wildlife in the area).

    Further interesting talks can be found by searching for words like Farm, Soil, and Food on TED, and narrow the search results to just the talks (option on the left side of the results).

    awesome post.

    I live in NYC and I'm planting veggies in pots in my cement "back yard" and even here there are plenty of farmers markets where you can buy local.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".
  • Ascolti_la_musica
    Ascolti_la_musica Posts: 676 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:
  • Ascolti_la_musica
    Ascolti_la_musica Posts: 676 Member
    Also, ice cream is DELICIOUS. I am going to eat the hell out of some of that processed goodness tonight, because it's half off this week and my husband wants some. Pardon me while I go grind some flax seed to suck on in anticipation of chemical armageddon in my belly.

    Ugh.
  • Ascolti_la_musica
    Ascolti_la_musica Posts: 676 Member

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    Show me a day's calories of fresh, organic fruits, vegetables and meat, and I will show you a week's calories for the same price.
  • Ascolti_la_musica
    Ascolti_la_musica Posts: 676 Member
    Posted this for entertainment, and "food for thought." I should have known the elitist fru fru crowd would show. I'm out of this thread.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    Show me a day's calories of fresh, organic fruits, vegetables and meat, and I will show you a week's calories for the same price.

    my dairy is open. I spend about $50-$60/week.

    go for it.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Posted this for entertainment, and "food for thought." I should have known the elitist fru fru crowd would show. I'm out of this thread.

    HOW DARE WE CARE ABOUT OUR HEALTH AND OUR IMPACT ON OUR ENVIRONMENT!!!!


    lol
  • freddykid
    freddykid Posts: 265 Member
    bump
  • GoldspursX3
    GoldspursX3 Posts: 516 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    Holy Donkey Balls Batman! You got amped up quick. How do you get this poster was looking down on you from this post?
  • SJ46
    SJ46 Posts: 407 Member
    Posted this for entertainment, and "food for thought." I should have known the elitist fru fru crowd would show. I'm out of this thread.

    I guess I don't really get your intent in starting this thread. In your first post it seemed like you thought the the video had something to offer and you stated you were glad you gave up some processed food. People commented - Yay, whole foods are good for you! The farmer's market is awesome! Then you came back with whole foods are too expensive you elitists, I love ice cream. I'm out.

    ^Obviously that is paraphrased, but I think it shows the gist of the thread so far.^

    I like ice cream too OP but I also see the value in eating whole foods as well as foods that are grown locally. It doesn't have to be expensive either, our local farmer's markets are much cheaper than the grocery stores in the summer. IM(notsoexpert)O balance is key to maintaining sanity and preserving your health.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    So, are you paying rent, utilities, clothes (or is that why you aren't wearing any), etc. and buying all this organic food in NYC on $200 a week? Are you self supporting on that amount alone? :huh:
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    So, are you paying rent, utilities, clothes (or is that why you aren't wearing any), etc. and buying all this organic food in NYC on $200 a week? Are you self supporting on that amount alone? :huh:

    this particular month and last have been slow. usually i make more. but yes I am.

    I also freelance as an actor so there are some times where I get big influxes of cash and other times where it's much leaner. quite unpredictable.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    Believe me, I do NOT look down my nose at people who can't afford better food. I consider it criminal that people are deprived of the foods they need to stay healthy and active. But I save a lot of money by NOT purchasing a lot of things that work against those goals. Our local food bank gives away tons of fresh fruits and vegetables every year. I volunteer there and am very happy to see young families going out the door with loads of them. You have a chip on your shoulder that really doesn't need to be there. I know what it is like to be poor and I am not "rich" now.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    So, are you paying rent, utilities, clothes (or is that why you aren't wearing any), etc. and buying all this organic food in NYC on $200 a week? Are you self supporting on that amount alone? :huh:

    this particular month and last have been slow. usually i make more. but yes I am.

    I also freelance as an actor so there are some times where I get big influxes of cash and other times where it's much leaner. quite unpredictable.

    So, the answer was no, not yes.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    So, are you paying rent, utilities, clothes (or is that why you aren't wearing any), etc. and buying all this organic food in NYC on $200 a week? Are you self supporting on that amount alone? :huh:

    this particular month and last have been slow. usually i make more. but yes I am.

    I also freelance as an actor so there are some times where I get big influxes of cash and other times where it's much leaner. quite unpredictable.

    So, the answer was no, not yes.

    what do you want out of this exchange? to prove that eating well isn't affordable? because it very clearly is. my AGI last year was $16,000 and I was able to eat a diet consisting of primarily whole foods. y'all are funny.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    So, are you paying rent, utilities, clothes (or is that why you aren't wearing any), etc. and buying all this organic food in NYC on $200 a week? Are you self supporting on that amount alone? :huh:

    this particular month and last have been slow. usually i make more. but yes I am.

    I also freelance as an actor so there are some times where I get big influxes of cash and other times where it's much leaner. quite unpredictable.

    So, the answer was no, not yes.

    what do you want out of this exchange? to prove that eating well isn't affordable? because it very clearly is. my AGI last year was $16,000 and I was able to eat a diet consisting of primarily whole foods. y'all are funny.

    I never said eating well wasn't affordable. I just don't see why you had to falsify information in an attempt to prove it. Organic is not necessary for health nor is it a guarantee that you are eating well. It just means you are eating less or different pesticides.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    So, are you paying rent, utilities, clothes (or is that why you aren't wearing any), etc. and buying all this organic food in NYC on $200 a week? Are you self supporting on that amount alone? :huh:

    this particular month and last have been slow. usually i make more. but yes I am.

    I also freelance as an actor so there are some times where I get big influxes of cash and other times where it's much leaner. quite unpredictable.

    So, the answer was no, not yes.

    what do you want out of this exchange? to prove that eating well isn't affordable? because it very clearly is. my AGI last year was $16,000 and I was able to eat a diet consisting of primarily whole foods. y'all are funny.

    I never said eating well wasn't affordable. I just don't see why you had to falsify information in an attempt to prove it. Organic is not necessary for health nor is it a guarantee that you are eating well. It just means you are eating less or different pesticides.

    I'm sorry, listen. 16,000 divided by 52 weeks = $300 per week.

    you're really quibbling over $100 when I didn't even SAY $200 in the first place? good lord.
  • JeneticTraining
    JeneticTraining Posts: 663 Member
    I love Ted Talk :)

    Thank you for sharing!
  • caribougal
    caribougal Posts: 865 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    Holy Donkey Balls Batman! You got amped up quick. How do you get this poster was looking down on you from this post?

    I know, right? Sheesh. Maybe the OP just got a big bill or something.

    It is cheaper to buy a case of Ramen then to buy a week's worth of fresh fruit and veg. No doubt about that. There are also ways to eat nutritious whole foods on the cheap.

    Buy from local farmer's markets.
    Join a CSA. My CSA asks members to help subsidize families who can't afford the full rate.
    Volunteer at a CSA. Many will do a work exchange deal.
    Buy in bulk. Go in with a friend to split a cow, a pig, a weekly CSA...
    Shop for sales. Buy online if it's cheaper (or don't, and support your local economy)
    Use coupons.
    Ask for samples. Whole Foods employees walk around with "free" stickers and they often use them when you ask a question.
    Grow your own in a garden.
    Start a backyard coop.
    Buy in bulk when veg/fruit are in season and learn canning or freeze to store veg and fruit for later.
    Buy frozen over fresh when it's cheaper
    Only buy organic for the dirty dozen.
    Shop at ethnic markets... sometimes they have great meat and veg for great prices, and cheaper prices on specialty items
    Buy cheaper/larger cuts of meat and use a slow cooker or pressure cooker.
    Cook a whole chicken instead of paying more for parts. Then use the bones to make your own chicken stock.
    If you drink things like almond or coconut milk, buy in bulk and make your own
    Blanch and freeze veggies before they go bad
    Eat less... I find I do very little snacking now that I eat more nutrient-dense foods.
    Plan ahead and make double-batches... it will save you from ordering take-out when there's no time or energy to cook.

    Lots of things a thrifty person can do to eat higher quality, nutrient-dense foods without paying Whole Foods prices.
  • jontay81
    jontay81 Posts: 39 Member
    I'm a food chemist and have a biochemistry degree. The author of this video has no idea what she's talking about. What a waste of some interesting resources and techniques. Although I did get a good laugh out of comparing t-butyl-hydroquinone to butane.

    People need to stop trying to scare others with chemical names. Here's a fun list of chemicals found in an orange:

    Hesperidin, Naringenin, Limonene, Camphene, Terpinene, Ethyl Butyrate, Carvone, Valencene, Citric Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Cryptoxanthin, Carotene, Lutein, Elemene, Terpineol, Phellandrene, Styrene, Octanal, Nonanal, Pinene, Linalool, Linalyl Acetate, Citral, Nerol Acetate, Myrcene, and Caryophyllene.

    That's only a handful that came to mind. There's hundreds more I left out.

    Remember, the dose makes the poison.


    PS. Hydroquinone is in wheat, pears, coffee, wine, and tea.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8568910
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    Holy Donkey Balls Batman! You got amped up quick. How do you get this poster was looking down on you from this post?

    I know, right? Sheesh. Maybe the OP just got a big bill or something.

    It is cheaper to buy a case of Ramen then to buy a week's worth of fresh fruit and veg. No doubt about that. There are also ways to eat nutritious whole foods on the cheap.

    Buy from local farmer's markets.
    Join a CSA. My CSA asks members to help subsidize families who can't afford the full rate.
    Volunteer at a CSA. Many will do a work exchange deal.
    Buy in bulk. Go in with a friend to split a cow, a pig, a weekly CSA...
    Shop for sales. Buy online if it's cheaper (or don't, and support your local economy)
    Use coupons.
    Ask for samples. Whole Foods employees walk around with "free" stickers and they often use them when you ask a question.
    Grow your own in a garden.
    Start a backyard coop.
    Buy in bulk when veg/fruit are in season and learn canning or freeze to store veg and fruit for later.
    Buy frozen over fresh when it's cheaper
    Only buy organic for the dirty dozen.
    Shop at ethnic markets... sometimes they have great meat and veg for great prices, and cheaper prices on specialty items
    Buy cheaper/larger cuts of meat and use a slow cooker or pressure cooker.
    Cook a whole chicken instead of paying more for parts. Then use the bones to make your own chicken stock.
    If you drink things like almond or coconut milk, buy in bulk and make your own
    Blanch and freeze veggies before they go bad
    Eat less... I find I do very little snacking now that I eat more nutrient-dense foods.
    Plan ahead and make double-batches... it will save you from ordering take-out when there's no time or energy to cook.

    Lots of things a thrifty person can do to eat higher quality, nutrient-dense foods without paying Whole Foods prices.

    i love you and this post

    speaking of which - time to go plant some veggies in pots!
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    I'm a food chemist and have a biochemistry degree. The author of this video has no idea what she's talking about. What a waste of some interesting resources and techniques. Although I did get a good laugh out of comparing t-butyl-hydroquinone to butane.

    People need to stop trying to scare others with chemical names. Here's a fun list of chemicals found in an orange:

    Hesperidin, Naringenin, Limonene, Camphene, Terpinene, Ethyl Butyrate, Carvone, Valencene, Citric Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Cryptoxanthin, Carotene, Lutein, Elemene, Terpineol, Phellandrene, Styrene, Octanal, Nonanal, Pinene, Linalool, Linalyl Acetate, Citral, Nerol Acetate, Myrcene, and Caryophyllene.

    That's only a handful that came to mind. There's hundreds more I left out.

    Remember, the dose makes the poison.

    as a food chemist... you're... well... biased.
  • caribougal
    caribougal Posts: 865 Member
    I'm a food chemist and have a biochemistry degree. The author of this video has no idea what she's talking about. What a waste of some interesting resources and techniques. Although I did get a good laugh out of comparing t-butyl-hydroquinone to butane.

    People need to stop trying to scare others with chemical names. Here's a fun list of chemicals found in an orange:

    Hesperidin, Naringenin, Limonene, Camphene, Terpinene, Ethyl Butyrate, Carvone, Valencene, Citric Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Cryptoxanthin, Carotene, Lutein, Elemene, Terpineol, Phellandrene, Styrene, Octanal, Nonanal, Pinene, Linalool, Linalyl Acetate, Citral, Nerol Acetate, Myrcene, and Caryophyllene.

    That's only a handful that came to mind. There's hundreds more I left out.

    Remember, the dose makes the poison.

    I didn't watch the Ted Talk. I trusted the people above who said it wasn't great.

    But I think your post is pretty misleading. When people talk about chemicals used in processed foods, they're not talking about the chemical composition of the foods themselves. They're talking about additives and preservatives used to change the flavor/nature of the food in order to use cheaper ingredients, make them last longer, taste different, look different, feel different, etc.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I eat almost nothing in the way of processed food and make a point of avoiding any food with added chemicals. The salad dressing that I use has nothing beyond food ingredients and not many ingredients at that. I eat sweet potato chips but all there is in them is sweet potatoes, "cold pressed oil" and sea salt. Other than that, I eat organic vegetables and fruits (as much as possible), organic raw milk cheddar (and some other dairy), organic eggs, "wild caught" fish, and "naturally raised" beef and chicken. Our food bills for my husband and me are not high (but we are not big eaters). In general, processed food is pretty expensive when you account for the fact that it is a nutritional "less than zero".

    How fortunate that you are rich enough to eat that way. Some of us have no choice but to eat a packet of ramen now and then. There was a time when I could afford a jar of peanut butter to get me through some weeks, and I consider myself lucky knowing how hungry people are in other parts of the world. I doubt any of them give a flying crap if the apple you hand them is organic or loaded with every pesticide under the sun.

    Food is processed to make it cheap and more easily available. Don't look down your nose at people who can't afford better than that. Be glad that your life is so much more... "comfortable."

    this is an excuse.

    I make a couple hundred a week living in NYC - the most expensive city in the world - and I eat organic, local whole foods.

    :flowerforyou:

    You need to travel.
    http://money.cnn.com/gallery/pf/2013/02/06/most-expensive-cities/index.html
  • GoldspursX3
    GoldspursX3 Posts: 516 Member
    I have to snicker a little when I hear people advocating the buying of local farmer's produce. I grew up on a farm and helped my grandpa run the produce stand and tend the fields. Our family and all the other small town farm's around us used pesticides on produce.

    Also, I knew of a couple of "farmers" who would buy produce in bulk, that was shipped from as far as Mexico, and would sell it as local grown to unsuspecting patrons at the farmers' market.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    I'm a food chemist and have a biochemistry degree. The author of this video has no idea what she's talking about. What a waste of some interesting resources and techniques. Although I did get a good laugh out of comparing t-butyl-hydroquinone to butane.

    People need to stop trying to scare others with chemical names. Here's a fun list of chemicals found in an orange:

    Hesperidin, Naringenin, Limonene, Camphene, Terpinene, Ethyl Butyrate, Carvone, Valencene, Citric Acid, Ascorbic Acid, Cryptoxanthin, Carotene, Lutein, Elemene, Terpineol, Phellandrene, Styrene, Octanal, Nonanal, Pinene, Linalool, Linalyl Acetate, Citral, Nerol Acetate, Myrcene, and Caryophyllene.

    That's only a handful that came to mind. There's hundreds more I left out.

    Remember, the dose makes the poison.

    as a food chemist... you're... well... biased.

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