Obese!?!?!?

TabiHerbalifeCoach
TabiHerbalifeCoach Posts: 691 Member
edited September 2024 in Motivation and Support
So i always new I was over weight, but never thought I was considered obese. I am 5'ft3" and i weigh 174, I looked around at a few websites and until I get to 165ish I will be considered obese......tha'ts sobering and scary.

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  • katielouhoo
    katielouhoo Posts: 676 Member
    i know awful isn't it. i'm 175 and 5'4". according to the bmi calculator under tools here on mfp, i am obese over 174.8
    i am hoping to break that when i weigh-in this coming week. strange as it sounds i am looking forward to merely being overweight (it has been years)
  • frankbo25
    frankbo25 Posts: 206 Member
    I wouldn't but that much weight into the bmi thing, just use it as a guide. It is not always a true gauge of overall fitness as a matter of fact Penn and Teller did an episode of their "Bulls??t" show on it. And also look at the rapper 50 Cent this guy is completely ripped and buff but at 6ft tall, 215 lbs he is borderline obese. So basically dont look at it as the true measure of fitness and dont obsess over it.
  • trainguy917
    trainguy917 Posts: 366 Member
    At one point in tme, before I last let myself go, I was running half marathons, my blood pressure was borderline low, my resting pulse rate was less than 50, my cholesterol was perfect. My BMI said I was obese.
  • mandikaye
    mandikaye Posts: 72 Member
    BMI is definitely overrated. There's an awesome Flickr set (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77367764@N00/sets/72157602199008819/) that illustrates how off it really is - and how no two people are really the same.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I was right where you are when I started. I thought..."Dang...50 pounds....no way!!" Then I met Tamtastic who was inching towards 100 lbs lost........just watching food, logging and exercising each day. I thought if she could do it so could I!

    I lost 1/2 to 1 pound a week.......36 pounds total!! BUT more than that, I felt healthy and happy with myself. No longer the fat mom sitting on the couch scarfing down an entire pizza........no now I am the healthy mom that makes hummus and carrots!

    You can do this.......1 pound at a time!!
  • The first time I realized I was obese, I literally felt my heart sink down to my stomach, so I know how you're probably feeling. But I also agree with frankbo25, it's not that important. What matters is that you come to feel comfortable in your own skin, not that you are comparable to other nameless ppl on a medical chart.
  • david1956
    david1956 Posts: 190 Member
    BMIs are complete and utter nonsense. Recently it was determined that this guy and three of his team-mates are obese, and the whole rest of the team are overweight. Some of the most conditioned athletes on earth.


    Obese?
    Richie_McCaw_step200.jpg

    Overweight?
    daniel-carter-20070915-312269.jpg
  • Ge0rgiana
    Ge0rgiana Posts: 1,649 Member
    I just took a health course to finish my BSIT. According to my book, BMI starts to get pretty skewed when it comes to short folks. :smile: And the very tall. And the very athletic...
  • sarahsmom1
    sarahsmom1 Posts: 1,501 Member
    My daughter is 5'11" and 265 her BMI is 34 she's a weight lifter so it also depends on muscle mass it weighs more than fat. They checked her bmi in the water
  • navstar
    navstar Posts: 113 Member
    BMIs are complete and utter nonsense. Recently it was determined that this guy and three of his team-mates are obese, and the whole rest of the team are overweight. Some of the most conditioned athletes on earth.


    Obese?
    Richie_McCaw_step200.jpg

    Overweight?
    daniel-carter-20070915-312269.jpg

    these pics made my day!!!
  • LainMac
    LainMac Posts: 412 Member
    BMI is useless. Two of my extremely slendar and athletic children are very muscled (my 9 year old boy and my 13 year old boy don't look terrible different from the dudes in shown in their underwear above. If they weren't going to be so short, I'd sign them up to be fitness models.)

    The school nurses weight them at school and I've recieved notes from school that one boy's BMI is close to overweight and the other's is close to obese. When in reality, their peditrician says that he knows of long distance runners who have more body fat than my two younger sons.

    There are people who are "proper BMI" who are quite unhealthy.

    Even my son who isn't lean right now , will always weigh more than the proper BMI due to dense bones.

    I'm 5'4" and my hoped for end weight is in the low 160s because that is where I become a size 10 to 12.
  • Ge0rgiana
    Ge0rgiana Posts: 1,649 Member
    BMI is definitely overrated. There's an awesome Flickr set (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77367764@N00/sets/72157602199008819/) that illustrates how off it really is - and how no two people are really the same.

    OMG, I couldn't get over the MEN. I wanted to take all the ones they labeled "normal" and feed them! :huh: Red beans and rice and corn bread, preferably! My boyfriend is 5'11" and weighs 190lbs. He looks fine! He has really large, muscular legs. I'm looking at the pics of the guys his height who are 160lbs and thinking that if he looked like that, I would have never been attracted to him in the first place. If he lost 30lbs, he wouldn't weigh that much more than I do! I know I'm going to look fine at my goal weight, which is in the normal range, because I've been there before and I'm not a stick figure. But 160lbs for my almost 6' boyfriend??? That's awful. What are these doctors thinking, wanting our men to be so thin???
  • david1956
    david1956 Posts: 190 Member
    I have determined that those fat% measuring gizmos (the "scales" you stand on and handles you hold that measure current through your body) are equally useless for many people.

    I compared two measurements 9 weeks apart...

    I had dropped 2" on both my chest and stomach (the two areas I carry some fat) and my weight had dropped 4.5 kilos. Apparently my fat% had risen slightly (bummer, my stomach rolls I lost weren't fat. I want them back!) but .. the nonsensical bit, my lean muscle had dropped over 4 kg! If someone's muscle mass dropped that much in 9 weeks they would not be pushing weights harder, they would probably be in hospital!

    I had been sucsipcious from word go, because my calliper tests gave about 13% (that seemed a wee low first time) and the machine gave about 24% which intuitively seemed way too high. I mentioned it to friends at the gym and they burst out laughing. All of them who have some knowledge of their own fat % feel I'd be mid-teens maximum.

    And I now think the algorithms used by those machines are only slightly modified BMI algorithms, because no matter how much leaner I get, the measurement is suspiciously similar to my BMI (which is wrong because I tend to a muscular build). That explains why they ask for age and height which is illogical if it knew very much at all about my body composition.

    So I researched the whole thing and what I started discovering was almost beyond belief. When various brands were independently tested, their ability to even measure electrical impedence (theoretically the whole basis of how they function) was wrong by up to 40%! That is simply ridiculous! And the more I looked at anecdotal stories, the more I saw a pattern similar to BMIs. Really cut guys with probably <10% body fat were getting readings of up to 15% higher! What the hell is the point of selling a device that shows readings to 0.1% precision when they are wildly inaccurate to start with? It is a scam.
  • TabiHerbalifeCoach
    TabiHerbalifeCoach Posts: 691 Member
    Thanks everyone for the support. seeing that I was obese defiantly didn't discourage me, I know I can do it.....it was just more of a shock than anything. but hey just one more reason to shed the pounds!!!! thank you again.....

    and the pics of the men......well they made my day too!!!! I'm a single mom.....that's the only action I'll see for a while LOL :D
  • mamagooskie
    mamagooskie Posts: 2,964 Member
    I agree that the BMI is really a useless tool and too generalized to do any good. I feel fitter and healthier now than I was 80lbs lighter (10 years ago and within my healthy range) and I know looking at myself and bone size height etc I should only be overweight not obese, yet I am also classified as obese. Not to mention my cardiovascular health is way better than it ever has been.

    Those men in their underwear are FANTASTIC......I wish all the overweight men I dated/know looked like that! LOL
  • zoey116
    zoey116 Posts: 75
    I had no idea that the whole concept of BMI could be (or is) so off the mark. Thanks for starting this thread! My husband is always telling me I'm not fat and I always argue with him that just because there are people larger that me (which is how he tries to convince me that I'm not fat) does not mean I am not fat. I always knew I was over weight but I guess I really started to beat myself up about it after I read in my medical record (which I got a copy of when I moved) that I was labeled as obese. I've always wondered If i was "big boned" because in high school (before I became fat) I was still heavier that people told me I should be(for my size). Anyways sorry to ramble but again THANKS!!! for letting me know not to put so much into BMI :)
  • mamaDaisyJ
    mamaDaisyJ Posts: 395
    BMIs are complete and utter nonsense. Recently it was determined that this guy and three of his team-mates are obese, and the whole rest of the team are overweight. Some of the most conditioned athletes on earth.


    Obese?
    Richie_McCaw_step200.jpg

    Overweight?
    daniel-carter-20070915-312269.jpg

    these pics made my day!!!

    Yes, Thank you for this!~
    And on topic ~ I completely agree that BMI results are less reliable than say.. body fat percentage?
  • lilmissy2
    lilmissy2 Posts: 595 Member
    It is true that for the VERY fit of us out there... BMI is not the best indicator but to be fair, that's not the general population!

    I see a lot of patients that will say to me 'well my BMI is 27 so I'm overweight but I'm not even fat'. Yep, that's right... our perception has changed quite a bit as more people became overweight so many people don't realise that they are in fact obese. The thing you must remember is that BMI is that its not about whether or not you are 'fat' it's about where the risk for weight-related disease increases and yes, research has shown that for the average person that is at BMI of 25 or above.

    Most people (especially women) will not have enough muscle to skew the BMI... remember the ranges are quite large ie my healthy weight range has 15kg difference (about 30lbs) between the bottom and the top.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I have determined that those fat% measuring gizmos (the "scales" you stand on and handles you hold that measure current through your body) are equally useless for many people.

    I compared two measurements 9 weeks apart...

    I had dropped 2" on both my chest and stomach (the two areas I carry some fat) and my weight had dropped 4.5 kilos. Apparently my fat% had risen slightly (bummer, my stomach rolls I lost weren't fat. I want them back!) but .. the nonsensical bit, my lean muscle had dropped over 4 kg! If someone's muscle mass dropped that much in 9 weeks they would not be pushing weights harder, they would probably be in hospital!

    I had been sucsipcious from word go, because my calliper tests gave about 13% (that seemed a wee low first time) and the machine gave about 24% which intuitively seemed way too high. I mentioned it to friends at the gym and they burst out laughing. All of them who have some knowledge of their own fat % feel I'd be mid-teens maximum.

    And I now think the algorithms used by those machines are only slightly modified BMI algorithms, because no matter how much leaner I get, the measurement is suspiciously similar to my BMI (which is wrong because I tend to a muscular build). That explains why they ask for age and height which is illogical if it knew very much at all about my body composition.

    So I researched the whole thing and what I started discovering was almost beyond belief. When various brands were independently tested, their ability to even measure electrical impedence (theoretically the whole basis of how they function) was wrong by up to 40%! That is simply ridiculous! And the more I looked at anecdotal stories, the more I saw a pattern similar to BMIs. Really cut guys with probably <10% body fat were getting readings of up to 15% higher! What the hell is the point of selling a device that shows readings to 0.1% precision when they are wildly inaccurate to start with? It is a scam.

    Thank you for saving me $159 plus shipping and handling!! I love you!:drinker:
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Thanks everyone for the support. seeing that I was obese defiantly didn't discourage me, I know I can do it.....it was just more of a shock than anything. but hey just one more reason to shed the pounds!!!! thank you again.....

    and the pics of the men......well they made my day too!!!! I'm a single mom.....that's the only action I'll see for a while LOL :D

    Actually the word OBESE is what sent me over the edge to lose weight, so I love love love BMI!! :laugh:

    The point is I did not look like one of those models.........instead I looked like a fluffy pillow to lay your head upon. I think any one of us can look in the mirror and figure out if we are obese or normal by BMI standards.

    My friend is 6 feet tall with broad shoulders. She has a very large frame and her lowest-skinniest weight was 180ish in her 20s. Any smaller and she would look horrible (of course we are 50 now so there are different standards)

    I was 105-118 when my healthiest weight and could wear a two pc bathing suit. My close friend who has always been musclular was 130-135 at her best weight. We were the same height.

    Common sense must prevail on these issues.
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