Low Carbs - 80 to 100?

amyllu
amyllu Posts: 432 Member
in Food and Nutrition
Just wondering how many carbs are considered as low carbing.
I just find it so hard to keep to less than 80 a day.

What do you think please?
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  • Weighinginwithmy02
    Weighinginwithmy02 Posts: 369 Member
    According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

    0-50 is considered Ketosis
    50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
    100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
    150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
    300-300+ danger zone

    This is all taken frm Mark's Daily Apple/The Primal Blueprint. She also suggested reading "New Atkins, New You". http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/the-primal-blueprint/#axzz2S2HjrxO4

    After meeting with this woman I realized that this is not something I could do for the long haul and put it all in my drawer, where I have only used it this one time to answer you post. :o)
  • ehsan517
    ehsan517 Posts: 114
    depends from person to person...thou usually in the ball park of 30g to 50g is low...at least in my books.
    i can never do low carb...it is completely detrimental to my health and performance...but thats just me.
    if you can go low carb and you are HAPPY, by all means do so. but generally the formulae is low carb= unhappiness.
    as for weight loss, its a game of calories and the type of calories.
    i`d rather maintain a healthy balanced lifestyle than low carb for a few weeks and lose weight, cause guess what? all that low carbing weight you lose, comes right back on. i`d rather stick with long term consistency.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,223 Member
    According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

    0-50 is considered Ketosis
    50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
    100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
    150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
    300-300+ danger zone

    This is all taken frm Mark's Daily Apple/The Primal Blueprint. She also suggested reading "New Atkins, New You". http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/the-primal-blueprint/#axzz2S2HjrxO4

    After meeting with this woman I realized that this is not something I could do for the long haul and put it all in my drawer, where I have only used it this one time to answer you post. :o)
    Nice to know adjectives describe carb consumption.....or is that carb consumerism, hard to tell.

    Anyway, under 100 g's is generally considered low carb.
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member
    According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

    0-50 is considered Ketosis
    50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
    100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
    150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
    300-300+ danger zone

    probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen
    I've lost weight in the supposed "danger zone".
  • Zero2hero2013
    Zero2hero2013 Posts: 458
    ^^ this!
  • Zero2hero2013
    Zero2hero2013 Posts: 458
    under 30g = no carb to me

    30-100g low carb
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    highway+to+the+danger+zone.jpg
  • Weighinginwithmy02
    Weighinginwithmy02 Posts: 369 Member
    According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

    0-50 is considered Ketosis
    50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
    100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
    150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
    300-300+ danger zone

    probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen
    I've lost weight in the supposed "danger zone".

    I felt the same way. The really bad part is she is a nutritionist that my company hires to give consultations for people who want them. I want so badly to tell my boss she's a quack but she's a "friend" of his. It even has a diagram that goes along with it!
  • SadKitty27
    SadKitty27 Posts: 416 Member
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    First thing that came to mind after Top Gun lol.
  • rhogr000
    rhogr000 Posts: 126
    Just wondering how many carbs are considered as low carbing.
    I just find it so hard to keep to less than 80 a day.

    What do you think please?

    Personally, I wouldn't recommend low-carb diets; they all tend to make participants tired and moody. In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.

    Personally, I try to eat between 120g-150g (sometimes more) of carbs/day. I'm pretty active with walking/cycling so I need the fuel.
  • rhogr000
    rhogr000 Posts: 126
    According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

    0-50 is considered Ketosis
    50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
    100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
    150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
    300-300+ danger zone

    probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen
    I've lost weight in the supposed "danger zone".

    I felt the same way. The really bad part is she is a nutritionist that my company hires to give consultations for people who want them. I want so badly to tell my boss she's a quack but she's a "friend" of his. It even has a diagram that goes along with it!

    I have noticed that low-carbers are prone to quackery.
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,284 Member
    I try to keep my carbs under 100g a day..... but I have diabetes. If you don't, don't worry about carbs. :)
  • ukgirly01
    ukgirly01 Posts: 523 Member
    I dont eat grains so fairly naturally stay under 100gs of carbs which means you can still eat a stack of fruit and veg. I find I lose weight better like this, thats not to say in the brginning I didnt lose weight eating pasta- I did but it didnt last long.
  • trackme
    trackme Posts: 239 Member
    bump
  • tayteetots
    tayteetots Posts: 114 Member
    carbs are needed for serotonin synthesis. no carbs no serotonin = cranky people.
  • kellykw
    kellykw Posts: 184 Member
    I try to keep my carbs under 100g a day..... but I have diabetes. If you don't, don't worry about carbs. :)
    ^^This! It all depends on the person. I know for a fact that eating over 100g a day makes me sluggish, grumpy, and puts me in the weight loss dead zone, but then again I have diabetes too. There is no one right answer that fits everyone, but based on my experience, under 100g is a good starting target for lowish carbs. The type of carbs you're eating definitely matters too.
  • LoveCR22
    LoveCR22 Posts: 75 Member

    Personally, I wouldn't recommend low-carb diets; they all tend to make participants tired and moody. In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.

    Personally, I try to eat between 120g-150g (sometimes more) of carbs/day. I'm pretty active with walking/cycling so I need the fuel.

    Where did you come up with the idea low carb makes people tired and moody?

    I tend to be low carbs most of the time now since giving up junk food, think in the last 2 weeks I haven't had a day over 50 grams and think there was even a day or two that was less than 10 grams, Only time I'm tired is before going to bed at night and sadly the memo of being able to eat unlimited amounts of anything including bacon must have gotten lost in the mail.
    Kinda moody about that now, I could go for some bacon...

    *Really no eye roll smiley?
  • ukgirly01
    ukgirly01 Posts: 523 Member
    carbs are needed for serotonin synthesis. no carbs no serotonin = cranky people.

    I eat carbs, I just don't eat grains, never get cranky from it- actually I did try ketosis for a bit an felt euphoric- the body makes its own carbs - ketones and therefore happily makes serotonin
  • Armyantzzz
    Armyantzzz Posts: 214 Member
    I believe the real trick is in low (good carbs) vs. high ("bad carbs") ie; bread carbs (not so good) vs veggie carbs (better). Try filling up on protein and fiber...it helps a lot:wink:
  • Armyantzzz
    Armyantzzz Posts: 214 Member
    good point!:laugh:
  • Fleshgodful
    Fleshgodful Posts: 9
    Just wondering how many carbs are considered as low carbing.
    I just find it so hard to keep to less than 80 a day.

    What do you think please?
    In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.
    Fat and cholesterol aren't bad for you. You need dietary fat and dietary cholesterol doesn't directly affect blood cholesterol.
  • rhogr000
    rhogr000 Posts: 126
    Just wondering how many carbs are considered as low carbing.
    I just find it so hard to keep to less than 80 a day.

    What do you think please?
    In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.
    Fat and cholesterol aren't bad for you. You need dietary fat and dietary cholesterol doesn't directly affect blood cholesterol.

    http://www.dietscam.org/basic/myths.shtml

    "Myth: High-protein/low-carbohydrate diets are a healthy way to lose weight.

    Fact: The long-term health effects of a high-protein/low-carbohydrate diet are unknown. But getting most of your daily calories from high-protein foods like meat, eggs, and cheese is not a balanced eating plan. You may be eating too much fat and cholesterol, which may raise heart disease risk. You may be eating too few fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, which may lead to constipation due to lack of dietary fiber. Following a high-protein/low-carbohydrate diet may also make you feel nauseous, tired, and weak.

    Eating fewer than 130 grams of carbohydrate a day can lead to the buildup of ketones (partially broken-down fats) in your blood. A buildup of ketones in your blood (called ketosis) can cause your body to produce high levels of uric acid, which is a risk factor for gout (a painful swelling of the joints) and kidney stones. Ketosis may be especially risky for pregnant women and people with diabetes or kidney disease.

    Tip: High-protein/low-carbohydrate diets are often low in calories because food choices are strictly limited, so they may cause short-term weight loss. But a reduced-calorie eating plan that includes recommended amounts of carbohydrate, protein, and fat will also allow you to lose weight. By following a balanced eating plan, you will not have to stop eating whole classes of foods, such as whole grains, fruits, and vegetables—and miss the key nutrients they contain. You may also find it easier to stick with a diet or eating plan that includes a greater variety of foods."

    I realize this is not true in everyone's case as there are some medical reasons for low-carb diets; however for the vast majority of low-carb fad dieters, this isn't the case...they're just after a "qucik-fix."
  • JaceyMarieS
    JaceyMarieS Posts: 692 Member


    Personally, I wouldn't recommend low-carb diets; they all tend to make participants tired and moody. In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.

    Personally, I try to eat between 120g-150g (sometimes more) of carbs/day. I'm pretty active with walking/cycling so I need the fuel.

    Actually, weighing 322 pounds made me moody and tired. The blood glucose roller-coaster I was on made me moody and tired.

    My macros are set to 20% carbs which is 65 total grams per day. I usually end up between 30-60 total grams carbs (not net) for the day. The majority of my carbs come from vegetables and nuts, with a little dairy thrown in. I avoid grains completely and strictly limit fruits and legumes.

    I walk/jog/cycle/use the elliptical/do 3-4 Zumba classes per week/swim and lift, so I make sure to get plenty of fat and moderate protein in my diet for fuel

    And my lipid panel is near perfect.

    Unhealthy? I sure used to be! Switching to a LC/HF lifestyle has changed that.
  • kellykw
    kellykw Posts: 184 Member
    I realize this is not true in everyone's case as there are some medical reasons for low-carb diets; however for the vast majority of low-carb fad dieters, this isn't the case...they're just after a "qucik-fix."

    People who are after a quick fix are most likely going to fail regardless. I don't understand taking a stand against or for low carb diets for other people. Low carb has been proven to be awesome for some people and terrible for others.
  • amyllu
    amyllu Posts: 432 Member
    Thanks for all the posts guys. Lots of info to think about there but I will just add that the reason I am doing low carbs is because my weight has been stalled for nearly two years and when I started this at the beginning of this year I was delighted to find my weight going down at last! ..I can assure you I am def not moody and cranky! ( others might not agree! :wink: )
    Being 78y.o. and Db2 and rather disabled the whole agenda is rather stacked against me.
    As regards the idea that the weight will immediately go back on,,, that can happen when you follow ANY diet regime so I think anyone who believes otherwise is fooling themselves! I've done the whole caboodle over my many years so I've been there, done that and got the T shirt!! :laugh:
  • Herohorse
    Herohorse Posts: 108
    Hi! I am following my trad/ alt. med doctor's reccommendation and aiming for 90 grams in a day. That is what she recommends for weight loss. I am not facing any ill effects and I have done it for a few months.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,223 Member
    Just wondering how many carbs are considered as low carbing.
    I just find it so hard to keep to less than 80 a day.

    What do you think please?
    In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.
    Fat and cholesterol aren't bad for you. You need dietary fat and dietary cholesterol doesn't directly affect blood cholesterol.

    http://www.dietscam.org/basic/myths.shtml

    "Myth: High-protein/low-carbohydrate diets are a healthy way to lose weight.

    Fact: The long-term health effects of a high-protein/low-carbohydrate diet are unknown. But getting most of your daily calories from high-protein foods like meat, eggs, and cheese is not a balanced eating plan. You may be eating too much fat and cholesterol, which may raise heart disease risk. You may be eating too few fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, which may lead to constipation due to lack of dietary fiber. Following a high-protein/low-carbohydrate diet may also make you feel nauseous, tired, and weak.

    Eating fewer than 130 grams of carbohydrate a day can lead to the buildup of ketones (partially broken-down fats) in your blood. A buildup of ketones in your blood (called ketosis) can cause your body to produce high levels of uric acid, which is a risk factor for gout (a painful swelling of the joints) and kidney stones. Ketosis may be especially risky for pregnant women and people with diabetes or kidney disease.

    Tip: High-protein/low-carbohydrate diets are often low in calories because food choices are strictly limited, so they may cause short-term weight loss. But a reduced-calorie eating plan that includes recommended amounts of carbohydrate, protein, and fat will also allow you to lose weight. By following a balanced eating plan, you will not have to stop eating whole classes of foods, such as whole grains, fruits, and vegetables—and miss the key nutrients they contain. You may also find it easier to stick with a diet or eating plan that includes a greater variety of foods."

    I realize this is not true in everyone's case as there are some medical reasons for low-carb diets; however for the vast majority of low-carb fad dieters, this isn't the case...they're just after a "qucik-fix."
    I would classify that as propaganda.:smile:
  • Elisirmon
    Elisirmon Posts: 273 Member
    I think everything depends on the person and their body response. I do low carb because of thyroid issues but it doesn't mean I flood my diet with high fats just replace grains and bread with vegetable carbs and I still eat lean meats.
  • vegemite_girl
    vegemite_girl Posts: 2
    I do "carb back loading' with great success, basically it means you ear 30g of carbs in the evening for 10 days to 'shock' the body. The 10th day you eat 150gm to 200gm carbs between 6pm and 8pm, you can include a dessert like frozen yoghurt then back to 30g of carbs for 6 days a week the 7th 150gm to 200gm carbs between 6pm and 8pm, then stay on the 6 days of 30g, 7th day150gm to 200gm in the evening.

    High vegetables 1 1/2 to 2 cups, no more than the back of my fist size of protein, 1200 calories a day, with HIT and weight training 5 days a week.

    Don't eat the first 2 hours of getting up, your body produces HGH (human growth hormone) and a hormone called gherlin during the night which burns fat while you sleep. Eating immediately in the morning, particularly carbs stop this hormone production and therefore interferes with the body burning fat.. Exercise during that 2 hrs and have a breakfast with protein in it at the 2hr mark. I get up at 5am to do this before work.

    I have a thyroid problem too, it's the only effective way I've found to lose weight. My husband averages 500gm a day weight loss using this with only cardio for 20min exercise, no weights. I'm building muscle, my loss is not so obvious "dam it!" :) but its coming off steadily.

    It's not for everyone but it's what is recommended for people who have 'stubborn' fat from 'yo yo' dieting and for weight lifters whose bodies are confused by 'bulking' and 'leaning' all the time, 'yo yo'ing'.

    Eat clean to stay lean :)
  • TheNewDodge
    TheNewDodge Posts: 607 Member
    80-120 seems to be my personal sweet spot. Not for weight loss, but for how I feel.

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