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TDEE / BMR question

kalamitykate83
Posts: 227 Member
I know this has been asked a million times, but when I calculate my TDEE and BMR, which is the one I need to pay more attention to?! Is it the TDEE number that I then need to eat lower than? Or the BMR?
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TDEE - that is your total daily energy expenditure. It is the amount of calories your body needs every day, so that is the one you need to eat less than.
Forget about BMR for the most part although a lot of people recommend eating above your BMR so your number should be somewhere between your TDEE and your BMR.0 -
TDEE is total daily energy expenditure. This is the calories you burn everyday, like going to work, going to school, sitting, walking, watching tv, exercising ect. BMR is basal metabolic rate, this is the amount your body would burn if you were to lie in bed all day and not move a muscle (basically if you were in a coma they would feed you this amount to not lose or gain weight). Essentially you want to eat at least your BMR daily and use the movement and exercise you do everyday to lose the weight. If you eat at TDEE -20% you are giving yourself a healthy cut to lose weight..0
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Thanku!! :-)
In the calculator online, I have put that i lightly exercise so my TDEE is 2058 .... does this sound about right given I'm 155lbs and 5'6?0 -
I'm 5'6 and 190lb and my TDEE with light exercise is 2200 so yes it's correct.0
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Just make sure you eat above your BMR. I was told to not worry about my BMR, so I was doing my TDEE -20% and was only netting like 500 cals a day, because my workouts were so vigorous.0
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I'm 5'6 and 190lb and my TDEE with light exercise is 2200 so yes it's correct.
Fab, thanku! :-)0 -
Just make sure you eat above your BMR. I was told to not worry about my BMR, so I was doing my TDEE -20% and was only netting like 500 cals a day, because my workouts were so vigorous.
Right ok, thanks!0 -
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
I use this to calculate - however if you set your settings to you being active do not eat back your exercise calories. This is what I have since heard. And I am trying this myself.0 -
Just make sure you eat above your BMR. I was told to not worry about my BMR, so I was doing my TDEE -20% and was only netting like 500 cals a day, because my workouts were so vigorous.
When calculating your TDEE, you have to state your level of activity. So if you set that to "vigorous" the calculator should automatically adjust the suggested intake (up it).0 -
Right, but on the calculator I used... I have a desk job and I only workout 5 times a week for an hour/hour and a half.. SO, it wasnt telling me to choose vigorous, I had to figure that out by looking at my net cals.0
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Right, but on the calculator I used... I have a desk job and I only workout 5 times a week for an hour/hour and a half.. SO, it wasnt telling me to choose vigorous, I had to figure that out by looking at my net cals.
The Scooby calculator allows you to select how often you work out. Try that0 -
I select my level as sedentary as i do have a desk job and then add exercise as an extra(depending if it is a big burn). I personally believe one persons exercise can vary so much from anothers so it's hard to put a figure on it. If I say I exercise 5 times a week, that calculator doesn't know how hard I go, maybe I go light one day becuase i'm tired etc. HRM's are good for giving a better understanding but even they can be off.0
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I too find it a bit bewildering the BMR and TDEE.
I get the BMR you can't eat below that regularly without consequences, but TDEE seems to be a useless stat, i've lost weight eating at and below BMR, i've lost weight eating below TDEE aswell, TDEE is too high for an obese person, so to eat healthy requires either eating way too little or forcing yourself to eat alot of uneccesary stuff to pad out the nutrients/calories and then if you add exercise it's even worse. Least that's my take
so if eating below the TDEE by any amount and then exercising on top of that would put you below BMR overall unless you ate back those calories or limited your exercise which defeats the purpose of exercising them away in the first place other then increase in fitness, but that in turn pushes your TDEE and BMR up so you have to eat more the next time, am i missing something here?.
I went with MFP's advisory to lose 1Kg a week and did that for the first 3 months and lost around 1Kg a week almost on an exact schedule, i was eating well below what i should've been based on the knowledge i have now, but it was working. Then i hit my first stallaccompanied by an increase in Cross Training/Biking over the Treadmill and introducing a regular weight routine. still losing some weight since currently hovering around 20Kg's lost for 3 weeks but every now and then my fat % drops a little bit too.
My job as a Forklift/Storeman in a usually busy warehouse, puts me around 3400 a day as TDEE including sleeping and after work sitting around.
eating 20% below that is still too much calorie intake for me, don't know how i managed it b4, well yes i do junk food, sugar drinks, and half chicken and chips almost every day now i struggle to get in 1600 let alone over 2000 but it's much healthier food options.
My BMR would be around 1800 if it's normal which i doubt thats the case. i did a baseline 24hour Heart Rate monitoring of an average day from 10pm the night b4 to 10pm the following day, included sleep, getting ready for work, work (driving to and from) and post work sitting at home entertaining myself.
6 hours of sleep = 555 calories
11 hours - getting ready for work. work and coming home = 2186 (this was a light/moderate day as far as workload can be alot worse like today which no doubt woulda been 15-25% higher)
6.5 Hours - at home again, watching TV and gaming on the computer = 676
missed a half an hour somewhere i think i started the previous night at 10:30pm not 10pm
on a workout day which is 5-6 days a week i burn between 700-1000 calories in a 60-80min session.
doing the calculations based on that day my TDEE was 3417
-20% 683 = 2736, no way in hell i could eat that much and that wasn't even an exercise day.
2000-2100 is more achievable if i force it but still feels too filling specially on a work day when we get no set breaks so it's eat on the go. 1600 without eating back the excessive calories i was burning was my sweat spot when i started, that was below my hypothetical BMR.0 -
I too find it a bit bewildering the BMR and TDEE.
I get the BMR you can't eat below that regularly without consequences, but TDEE seems to be a useless stat, i've lost weight eating at and below BMR, i've lost weight eating below TDEE aswell, TDEE is too high for an obese person, so to eat healthy requires either eating way too little or forcing yourself to eat alot of uneccesary stuff to pad out the nutrients/calories and then if you add exercise it's even worse. Least that's my take
so if eating below the TDEE by any amount and then exercising on top of that would put you below BMR overall unless you ate back those calories or limited your exercise which defeats the purpose of exercising them away in the first place other then increase in fitness, but that in turn pushes your TDEE and BMR up so you have to eat more the next time, am i missing something here?.
I went with MFP's advisory to lose 1Kg a week and did that for the first 3 months and lost around 1Kg a week almost on an exact schedule, i was eating well below what i should've been based on the knowledge i have now, but it was working. Then i hit my first stallaccompanied by an increase in Cross Training/Biking over the Treadmill and introducing a regular weight routine. still losing some weight since currently hovering around 20Kg's lost for 3 weeks but every now and then my fat % drops a little bit too.
My job as a Forklift/Storeman in a usually busy warehouse, puts me around 3400 a day as TDEE including sleeping and after work sitting around.
eating 20% below that is still too much calorie intake for me, don't know how i managed it b4, well yes i do junk food, sugar drinks, and half chicken and chips almost every day now i struggle to get in 1600 let alone over 2000 but it's much healthier food options.
My BMR would be around 1800 if it's normal which i doubt thats the case. i did a baseline 24hour Heart Rate monitoring of an average day from 10pm the night b4 to 10pm the following day, included sleep, getting ready for work, work (driving to and from) and post work sitting at home entertaining myself.
6 hours of sleep = 555 calories
11 hours - getting ready for work. work and coming home = 2186 (this was a light/moderate day as far as workload can be alot worse like today which no doubt woulda been 15-25% higher)
6.5 Hours - at home again, watching TV and gaming on the computer = 676
missed a half an hour somewhere i think i started the previous night at 10:30pm not 10pm
on a workout day which is 5-6 days a week i burn between 700-1000 calories in a 60-80min session.
doing the calculations based on that day my TDEE was 3417
-20% 683 = 2736, no way in hell i could eat that much and that wasn't even an exercise day.
2000-2100 is more achievable if i force it but still feels too filling specially on a work day when we get no set breaks so it's eat on the go. 1600 without eating back the excessive calories i was burning was my sweat spot when i started, that was below my hypothetical BMR.
I don't understand how you think TDEE is a useless stat. BMR is of less importance than TDEE.
Yes, TDEE is quite high for obese people, however, with a lot of weight to lose, people can have larger deficits. It isn't lots o unnessecary nutritents. Your body needs them. It's not hard to add extra calories without adding extra food. The problem is people often get this idea that losing weight means eating low calories/low fat food and cut out foods that are calorie and nutrient dense making hard to reach their calorie goal. I see tons of posts of people complaining they can't meet their calories but are eating lowest dairy (cheese, yogurt, milk) lower fat peanut butter, light dressings, low cal treats where eating just a few of these full Flavor would bring up their calorie intake.
Also TDEE includes your exercise so you are already "eating those calories back". The only formula that brings you below bMR is TDEE figured at sedentary - 20%. The rest will keep you over BMR.
Lastly - a HRM is no where near accurate for figuring BMR and TDEE. It is intended for steady state cardio only. It is not accurate for low intensity activity. Any values you got for things like watching tv are inflated.0
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