Trying to get a wheat belly

pcastagner
pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
in Food and Nutrition
So... I'm away from home for months now, and I have no access to my usual brown sticky rice. Lack of complex carbs from the resulting paleo style diet (plus dairy) has left me with slow recovery times in the area that matters most, which is my voice.


I'm officially back on bread now, as my main source of carbs. On top of that, I'm eating maintenance level caloric intake.


I've been steadily leaning out since November, so if the claims are correct, I should now expect to become all paunchy and fat. In a month I will post a new pic, since my current pic is right around when I started eating wheat again every day.


Predictions?
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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    What?
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    ^ IDK, but I HAVE to know what that belt under his blipples is?
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    ^ IDK, but I HAVE to know what that belt under his blipples is?

    HRM
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    So you're saying that it's a calorie surplus which is the ultimate determinant of fat gain rather than one particular food stuff?

    Thank you Captain Obvious.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    What?


    I've been told repeatedly that I can't make any headway or lose fat if I eat wheat. I find these arguments weak compared to calories in, calories out, and since it's hard to avoid wheat right now I figure why not test it.

    It's an uncontrolled experiment.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    What?


    I've been told repeatedly that I can't make any headway or lose fat if I eat wheat. I find these arguments weak compared to calories in, calories out, and since it's hard to avoid wheat right now I figure why not test it.

    It's an uncontrolled experiment.

    Riiiiiiiiiight
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    So do you have a prediction?
  • Sharkington
    Sharkington Posts: 485
    I predict you'll turn into bread.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    So do you have a prediction?

    It won't make a meaningful difference unless you have an intolerance which you haven't told us.

    If you do have an intolerance it will make sticking to a deficit much harder meaning you will probably fall off and have poor results.

    Good luck but I predict very few people will actually care what happens.
  • ggxx100
    ggxx100 Posts: 520 Member
    Oh my goodness don't do it! Any sort of carb will not only completely stop your ability to lose weight but also cause the fat gained to be completely centered in your stomach! Have you read Wheat Belly? Bread is the main reason why Americans are overweight, and everyone is going about this the wrong way.


    If we just got rid of bread, we could all live off of fast food and be skinny with 6 packs.

    Try it, eat one cheeseburger with the bun and it will make you twice as bloated and gain twice as much weight as if you had four cheeseburgers with no bum!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Oh my goodness don't do it! Any sort of carb will not only completely stop your ability to lose weight but also cause the fat gained to be completely centered in your stomach! Have you read Wheat Belly? Bread is the main reason why Americans are overweight, and everyone is going about this the wrong way.


    If we just got rid of bread, we could all live off of fast food and be skinny with 6 packs.

    This is a joke isn't it?
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    ^ IDK, but I HAVE to know what that belt under his blipples is?

    HRM
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  • ggxx100
    ggxx100 Posts: 520 Member
    Oh my goodness don't do it! Any sort of carb will not only completely stop your ability to lose weight but also cause the fat gained to be completely centered in your stomach! Have you read Wheat Belly? Bread is the main reason why Americans are overweight, and everyone is going about this the wrong way.


    If we just got rid of bread, we could all live off of fast food and be skinny with 6 packs.

    This is a joke isn't it?

    There is no hope for the world. None*
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Oh my goodness don't do it! Any sort of carb will not only completely stop your ability to lose weight but also cause the fat gained to be completely centered in your stomach! Have you read Wheat Belly? Bread is the main reason why Americans are overweight, and everyone is going about this the wrong way.


    If we just got rid of bread, we could all live off of fast food and be skinny with 6 packs.

    This is a joke isn't it?

    There is no hope for the world. None*

    Agreed!
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    No intolerance that I know of. I do have to take beano with the bread.

    I'd rather stick to my brown rice, but I am on the road so I don't have total control. Priority one is to be singing well in auditions. Lack of starches was really messing with that.

    But it also struck me as potentially useful to have an answer to these wheat belly posts, even though it's just anecdotal.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    I'd rather stick to my brown rice, but I am on the road so I don't have total control. Priority one is to be singing well in auditions. Lack of starches was really messing with that.

    That kind of sucks.

    What about quinoa, potatoes, yams or white rice especially centred around your workout times? Do you have access to those foods?
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    I'd rather stick to my brown rice, but I am on the road so I don't have total control. Priority one is to be singing well in auditions. Lack of starches was really messing with that.

    That kind of sucks.

    What about quinoa, potatoes, yams or white rice especially centred around your workout times? Do you have access to those foods?

    I do, and t the moment I have a kitchen, but because of my work I will often be in a situation where I have no kitchen. It's a combo of figuring out how to deal with the road, being annoyed about no sticky brown rice, and being very curious about all these claims about wheat. What really got me interested was that over here (Germany), I hear from people that meat makes you fat, and the way to avoid that is to focus on bread and pasta. I don't see any consistency across the two cultures in terms of actual advice, but in both cases the authority behind the, carries the same weight. Which makes me suspect its arbitrary and cultural.


    I am generally eating all of this bread immediately after workouts and I more or less follow the leangains protocol. I have my TRX, my speed rope, and resistance bands so I can push myself hard on strength workouts.
  • Fozzi43
    Fozzi43 Posts: 2,984 Member
    I hear from people that meat makes you fat




    Lean red meat is a good source of protein...and too much bread isn't great for your body.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    My favorite foods:

    Brown rice
    Fruit
    Veg
    Meat


    Again, this isn't about taking a stance (though I stated my bias), it's about testing it on a single subject and seeing if the sky does indeed fall on my head, and figuring out how I can work this career without looking like most of the other people who live my lifestyle.

    There is a reason opera singers get fat, and if you've ever tried living on the road you know how the game changes when you have no gym and your food choices are limited. I'm trying to build my skills up and adapt to what is instead of complaining.

    Beef is just too expensive here, and pork loin is close in price to good beef back in America.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    I am generally eating all of this bread immediately after workouts and I more or less follow the leangains protocol. I have my TRX, my speed rope, and resistance bands so I can push myself hard on strength workouts.

    I think you will be fine in all honesty. Carbs after a heavy workout alongside a protein source is a terrific idea for nutrient uptake.

    I wouldn't worry about the idea you have to avoid meat and prefer pasta etc - it is arbitrary and cultural as you say. Ultimately it's about energy balance but remember that in a calorie deficit protein requirements actually rise. Whether you get the protein from meat is up to you and your personal preferences though. That is why decent fat loss programmes have a hierarchy as follows: set calories, set protein level, set fat level, carbs make up the rest.

    Good luck!

    ETA: if you are eating at maintenance it is less important if you are sedentary. If you are active it still needs to remain high but not so much as when you are in a calorie deficit.
  • Lesa_Sass
    Lesa_Sass Posts: 2,213 Member
    <<<<<< My wheat belly.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    I am generally eating all of this bread immediately after workouts and I more or less follow the leangains protocol. I have my TRX, my speed rope, and resistance bands so I can push myself hard on strength workouts.

    I think you will be fine in all honesty. Carbs after a heavy workout alongside a protein source is a terrific idea for nutrient uptake.

    I wouldn't worry about the idea you have to avoid meat and prefer pasta etc - it is arbitrary and cultural as you say. Ultimately it's about energy balance but remember that in a calorie deficit protein requirements actually rise. Whether you get the protein from meat is up to you and your personal preferences though. That is why decent fat loss programmes have a hierarchy as follows: set calories, set protein level, set fat level, carbs make up the rest.

    Good luck!

    That's my prediction as well.

    I have whey, and oddly, turkey breast is cheap and easy to get here. I'm eating just around maintenance calories.
  • foleyshirley
    foleyshirley Posts: 1,043 Member
    Oh my goodness don't do it! Any sort of carb will not only completely stop your ability to lose weight but also cause the fat gained to be completely centered in your stomach! Have you read Wheat Belly? Bread is the main reason why Americans are overweight, and everyone is going about this the wrong way.


    If we just got rid of bread, we could all live off of fast food and be skinny with 6 packs.

    This is a joke isn't it?

    I hope so.
  • ggxx100
    ggxx100 Posts: 520 Member
    Oh my goodness don't do it! Any sort of carb will not only completely stop your ability to lose weight but also cause the fat gained to be completely centered in your stomach! Have you read Wheat Belly? Bread is the main reason why Americans are overweight, and everyone is going about this the wrong way.


    If we just got rid of bread, we could all live off of fast food and be skinny with 6 packs.

    This is a joke isn't it?

    I hope so.

    This^ is what gives me no hope...

    Facepalm*

    Also, I forgot to add. ALL carbs will make you fat. Fruits and vegetables are carbs, so I stay away from those as well as brown rice. Goodness! I look at a watermelon and feel the pounds piling on.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Goodness! I look at a watermelon and feel the pounds piling on.

    You're KILLING me
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Good luck but I predict very few people will actually care what happens.
    I'm interested. Ok, it's far from scientific; but then the same could be said in regards to most of the claims that wheat is satan's own version of a massive tub of lard!
  • Fozzi43
    Fozzi43 Posts: 2,984 Member
    [Goodness! I look at a watermelon and feel the pounds piling on.
    [/quote]












    You DO??????:noway:









    Oh my :noway:
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    If I weigh myself after eating a couple pounds of watermelon I'm always heavier than before. So it's true!
  • itgeekwoman
    itgeekwoman Posts: 804 Member
    it depends.. Personally if I eat wheat I get bloated, but I have an allergy to Wheat, corn and oats.
    lots of people eat wheat without having issues. Good luck!
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    So far, no wheat belly. But I have lost some body fat due to running a deficit again.

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