Casein before bed ?

think about it this way: if you are looking to build muscle, you are eating at a surplus, which for bigger guys means eating all day. my personal maintenance level is ~3700 calories, so when i build, i eat every hour of the day. when you go to bed, your body is left without food for ~8 hours.

Casein actually thickens in your stomach and takes longer to digest. it is also the main protein in milk, which is why you should take your fast absorbing whey protein with water so as to not counteract the benefits of the quick absorbtion.

By taking the casein right before bed (preferably with milk) it can feed your body for up to the next five hours, keeping you out of a completely fasted stage. in this way, your body can repair tissue 24/7 instead of taking a break while you sleep.

This is such an insignificant concern/benefit to 99.9% of people here. Just kick some *kitten* in the gym, eat some food, and don't sweat this kind of stuff.

think about it this way: if you are looking to build muscle, you are eating at a surplus, which for bigger guys means eating all day. my personal maintenance level is ~3700 calories, so when i build, i eat every hour of the day. when you go to bed, your body is left without food for ~8 hours.

Casein actually thickens in your stomach and takes longer to digest. it is also the main protein in milk, which is why you should take your fast absorbing whey protein with water so as to not counteract the benefits of the quick absorbtion.

By taking the casein right before bed (preferably with milk) it can feed your body for up to the next five hours, keeping you out of a completely fasted stage. in this way, your body can repair tissue 24/7 instead of taking a break while you sleep.

I was confused...but then saw that you're from Ohio (I went to PSU)...now it makes sense.

^ Don't listen to this.

Eat food, but not too much
get enough protein
smash weights in the gym

---

get bigger.





That's all there is to it.

And *kitten*

no and a big NO

http://www.simplyshredded.com/top-10-muscle-myths-we-test-research-the-10-biggest-axioms-of-bodybuilding.html

:noway:

My gut says it's one of those things that has some merit, but in the real world it's pretty insignificant for most people.


Keep your calories in check with your goal
kick *kitten* in the gym
repeat.

so the science behind it doesnt do it for you huh? read the link posted in the thread and learn something. especially dont insult people who are correct while making yourself look like a dumbass.

do i think this is necessary for everyone? no. is it beneficial for those pushing their bodies hard? yes.

I did read it. Do you even lift?

so the science behind it doesnt do it for you huh? read the link posted in the thread and learn something. especially dont insult people who are correct while making yourself look like a dumbass.

do i think this is necessary for everyone? no. is it beneficial for those pushing their bodies hard? yes.

Do you even lift?

oh no he di int!

Don't believe the hype!

Casein is absolutely not needed and marketed as this miracle overnight taking protein powder that is going to deter your gains as you are sleeping and can't eat. As long as you meet your macro and micro nutrients for the day (calorie numbers), get plenty of rest and adequate amounts of water you'll be good to go.

agreed. i get all my macros and i fast for at least 16 hours sometimes 18 and once a week for 24 hours and i loose no gains. its all about calories in.

so the science behind it doesnt do it for you huh? read the link posted in the thread and learn something.

In for the science . . .

Me too...I would love for a study to be posted that shows the timing of casein specifically makes a difference.

The link cites no studies.

think about it this way: if you are looking to build muscle, you are eating at a surplus, which for bigger guys means eating all day. my personal maintenance level is ~3700 calories, so when i build, i eat every hour of the day. when you go to bed, your body is left without food for ~8 hours.

Casein actually thickens in your stomach and takes longer to digest. it is also the main protein in milk, which is why you should take your fast absorbing whey protein with water so as to not counteract the benefits of the quick absorbtion.

By taking the casein right before bed (preferably with milk) it can feed your body for up to the next five hours, keeping you out of a completely fasted stage. in this way, your body can repair tissue 24/7 instead of taking a break while you sleep.

Why not eat food? Why casein?

Also, you do realize that absorption =/= utilization?

think about it this way: if you are looking to build muscle, you are eating at a surplus, which for bigger guys means eating all day. my personal maintenance level is ~3700 calories, so when i build, i eat every hour of the day. when you go to bed, your body is left without food for ~8 hours.

Casein actually thickens in your stomach and takes longer to digest. it is also the main protein in milk, which is why you should take your fast absorbing whey protein with water so as to not counteract the benefits of the quick absorbtion.

By taking the casein right before bed (preferably with milk) it can feed your body for up to the next five hours, keeping you out of a completely fasted stage. in this way, your body can repair tissue 24/7 instead of taking a break while you sleep.

I was confused...but then saw that you're from Ohio (I went to PSU)...now it makes sense.

^ Don't listen to this.

Eat food, but not too much
get enough protein
smash weights in the gym

---

get bigger.





That's all there is to it.

so the science behind it doesnt do it for you huh? read the link posted in the thread and learn something. especially dont insult people who are correct while making yourself look like a dumbass.

do i think this is necessary for everyone? no. is it beneficial for those pushing their bodies hard? yes.

lolz

so the science behind it doesnt do it for you huh? read the link posted in the thread and learn something.

In for the science . . .

Me too...I would love for a study to be posted that shows the timing of casein specifically makes a difference.

The link cites no studies.

Yeah, but did you see how ripped the pictures were on that link?

That's good enough for me. Ordering my 10 lb bag of casein right now!

Drink 1-2 scoop casien protein shake 20-30 mins before bed. If you're sleeping between 6-8 a night it will help with feeding your body with proteins for a large part of those 6 to 8 hours, preventing or avoiding a catabolic state.

So yes, drink it.

So what you're saying is, a 6-8 hour fast automatically results in an overall net catabolic state?

I prefer cookies and milk before bed.

I prefer ice cream in bed!

with whipped cream? I can be pretty flexible on this . . .

And hot (but not too hot) caramel sauce please