Why does everyone think it's WHAT they eat that matters?

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  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
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    I think we need a MFP craft beer meetup. Hatred of Miller Lite, bringing MFP together since 2013.

    There's a group for that!

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/11910-craft-beer-and-home-brewing
  • kevokie
    kevokie Posts: 53 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    With that statement, you lost all credibility! Someone said it best, only a crazy person would say that. Now gtfo. And good luck.
  • khall86790
    khall86790 Posts: 1,100 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    ^ This is not an option! Otherwise, I agree.

    Haha, agreed.

    Although I don't agree with the OP. Calories from fruit or vegetables is fat better for you than calories from chocolate or beer. Yes, it is about calories but your macros also come into it and that does depend on what foods you are eating.
  • jaygreen55
    jaygreen55 Posts: 315 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    ^ This is not an option! Otherwise, I agree.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
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    Because macros are still important. You can't just be under your calorie goal eating only cake and expect to be healthy or feel good. Not that you have to cut it out, but sometimes when people have that one slice of pizza it turns into half a pizza (that's what happens to me every time) or one beer turns into six.

    This^
  • hottamolly00
    hottamolly00 Posts: 334 Member
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    I read so many threads on here about giving up this or that, limiting this or that, etc. It's not what you eat, it's how much you eat that matters. You just need to chose if you want calorie-dense food or more of a less-dense food.

    If you have to lose a lot of weight and restrict what tastes good you're going to fail. So instead of giving up pizza why not just eat one less slice per meal? Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite. I really don't understand why people are so dang hard on themselves. Good luck!

    I did what you're referring to for 3 years... and I lost weight, but I didn't look good. Ever since I started eating more "clean" I've felt healthier, stronger, and my body looks better than ever.
  • jaygreen55
    jaygreen55 Posts: 315 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    ^ This is not an option! Otherwise, I agree.


    Believe it or not despite it's thickness guiness is one of the lower calorie beers out there at 120 per 12 ounces (compared to 150 for the average lager, 160-210 for ale and 200-220 for a porter). The malt is toasted which burns off some of the sugars

    http://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/guinness/draught-(can)
    http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/03/17/guinness-a-dieters-beer-choice/

    Nutrition Facts
    Serving Size 1 can (14.9oz)

    Amount Per Serving
    Calories from Fat 0Calories 155

    % Daily Values*
    Total Fat 0g 0%
    Saturated Fat 0g 0%
    Cholesterol 0mg 0%
    Sodium 0mg 0%
    Potassium 0mg
    Total Carbohydrate 9.9g 3%
    Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
    Sugars 0g
    Protein 0.3g

    Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
    Calcium 0% Iron 0%
    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
  • benapp21
    benapp21 Posts: 5
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    what? whats the point of eating that one less slice if its unhealthy... you're not going to feel any better and you will just feel even more hungry and craving another slice. why don't you just save that pizza for a cheat meal? Not really any healthy selections when it comes to pizza anyways unless you find a pizza doh substitute. You just have to eat smaller portions and have certain foods in moderation.
  • gretchenk77
    gretchenk77 Posts: 13
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    We all have to start somewhere.

    I don't have the willpower, yet, to leap directly from my half-a-pizza habit into completely healthy ones. But just by being here, and being completely honest in my food diary, I'm already more *aware* of what I'm putting into my mouth than I have been in years. Baby steps.

    As far as beer goes? Meh. I'd rather have vodka.
  • Tiff050709
    Tiff050709 Posts: 497 Member
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    I think people should just do what's right for them. I cut out a lot of food and for good reason. For me, it's just easier if I just don't eat/drink certain things even if it's in moderation. But I do understand your point.
  • GlassslippersAndFairyDust
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    You should not just be concerned with weight loss, you should be concerned with your overall health. Being healthy should be a goal for everyone to have. When's the last time you heard someone honestly say "I really want to die young!" "I am excited to get cancer!" or "All this GMO stuff is awesome, give me more chemicals please!"

    It should be ALL about WHAT you eat, not just the marcos.


    QFabsoluteT :flowerforyou:
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
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    As reported on CNN:

    Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.

    For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.

    His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

    The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

    For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.

    His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

    But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

    Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

    AND

    He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

    So basically he did 600 calories of protein/veggies, took care of basic vitamin needs, and ate 1200 calories of crap per day for 10 weeks. He lost weight because he ate below maintenance. He wasn't trying to go to the next level (actually looking good) - he was just trying to get to a normal BMI. And he succeeded at that.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    ^ This is not an option! Otherwise, I agree.

    Agreed. Miller Lite tastes like @ss, I'll take the extra calories, thank you.

    I'll third this. I would exercise an extra 30 mins to ear the extra calories in Guinness that choke down that yellow swill. But on the rest, I agree with OP, as long as IIFYM.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
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    I read so many threads on here about giving up this or that, limiting this or that, etc. It's not what you eat, it's how much you eat that matters.

    If you just ate sugar, but you limited the intake to keep a caloric deficit, that would help you lose weight. Sure. But the point of trying to incorporate healthier food choices is not just about weight loss but to find more balanced choices that allow you to eat food with other nutritional value or that are less processed. Of course you have to limit those higher calorie foods. But it is aslo good for satiety and feeling full to find healthier choices.

    I ate a bag of Kit Kat mins yesterday. 320 calories.
    I had almost 8 ounces of Tilapia, with better protein and nutrtional value at 340 calories.

    Now, I don't completely cut Kit Kat minis, cuz honestly, I don't want to and they rule. But I do make a better choice more often to NOT have them.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    ^ This is not an option! Otherwise, I agree.

    Agreed. Miller Lite tastes like @ss, I'll take the extra calories, thank you.

    I'll third this. I would exercise an extra 30 mins to ear the extra calories in Guinness that choke down that yellow swill. But on the rest, I agree with OP, as long as IIFYM.


    I posted this on FB and here earlier today.

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  • Oishii
    Oishii Posts: 2,675 Member
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    Our stomachs don't actually measure the amount of calories we eat, it simply doesn't matter to our stomach. But, our stomachs do measure the volume of food we eat and it is amazingly accurate at doing so. So for many of us we simply have to eat foods that are heavier and have more volume but, far less calories than what we were eating. There is no law that these foods can't taste good, they can, but we certainly can't just eat less and expect our stomach to just automatically go along with that.

    This is, from my understanding, and personal experience, only half the story. If I eat enough salad and soup to make it physically uncomfortable for me to eat any more, if my caloric needs have not been fulfilled, I will still be hungry. This is to do with hormonal signals from the body.

    This is how a body is meant to work. In those who are obese, or who have been obese, it can stop working properly. I sometimes wonder if this is why so many on mfp seem to think that a full stomach means they can't be hungry.
  • apriljackss
    apriljackss Posts: 96 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite

    To some degree I agree with most of what you said, but Miller Lite for Guiness. Blasphemy! Besides, a 12 oz. bottle of Guinness or Guinness draft is only 125 calories, only about 30 more than miller. It's the way it's brewed that makes it feel so much heavier. So drink up, people! :drinker:
  • Lazygal53
    Lazygal53 Posts: 294 Member
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    Guinness is actually one of the most naturally light beers!!! (Just wanted to let OP know in case he's been forgoing Guiness!!!)

    As you were.

    For God's sake ... Guiness is not a beer ... don't be lumping it in there ...
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    Instead of Guinness drink a Miller Lite.

    ^ This is not an option! Otherwise, I agree.

    Agreed. Miller Lite tastes like @ss, I'll take the extra calories, thank you.

    I'll third this. I would exercise an extra 30 mins to ear the extra calories in Guinness that choke down that yellow swill. But on the rest, I agree with OP, as long as IIFYM.


    I posted this on FB and here earlier today.

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    Shhh, now I won't do the extra workout... :tongue: But good to know. I love me some Guiness!!!
  • Morninglory81
    Morninglory81 Posts: 1,190 Member
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    Guinness is pretty low calorie. Now, a nice microbrewed imperial stout at 300+ calories per 12 oz. yeah, those'll getchya.
    True but those calories are sooooo worth it.