Obese Weight Lifters or Cardio?

Hi,

I have a few questions. I've been reading up on cardio vs. weight lifting. Even read some of the threads on MFP. And am a bit confused. Will someone with lets say a 48% body fat lose weight with lifting? Or should they do cardio first, lose the weight and THEN begin lifting? Most threads I have read say Lifting is the way to go and by they looks of their pictures I can tell they are very much correct however, I just wonder if they actually started out as and Obese person or just someone who needed to lose a few pounds. Either way all their pictures look amazing I just want to make sure that I am not lifiting weights when I should be doing cardio to lose a certian amount before lifting.
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  • YoungDoc2B
    YoungDoc2B Posts: 1,593 Member
    Lift. NOW!'
  • redhead1910
    redhead1910 Posts: 304 Member
    If you are extrmely overweight start with something easy like walking so that you don't hurt your joints. Once you have shed some weight and there is less pressure on your knees and what not, start doing some more intense cardio and incorporate lifitng. Both are important for weight loss, but if you lift too heavy while you are extremely overweight you risk injuring yourself and setting yourself back.
  • melindasuefritz
    melindasuefritz Posts: 3,509 Member
    CARDIO
  • DragonSquatter
    DragonSquatter Posts: 957 Member
    I started lifting when I was very obese (BF% was close to 44-45%) and have lost 42 lbs while keeping my calorie deficit and lifting.

    You can definitely still lose weight lifting. The cool thing about lifting when you're big is that you're likely a lot stronger than you realize. Carrying around that much weight every day means you've got quite a bit of muscle mass underneath your fat. The trick is to learn to train it. Start light and work your way up, but definitely try it. You also don't have to make a choice. You can do both.

    As long as you keep a calorie deficit, you will lose weight.
  • hot2def
    hot2def Posts: 80 Member
    Bump for reference. This should be interesting.
  • Proyecto_AN
    Proyecto_AN Posts: 387
    Both.
  • Inittolozeit
    Inittolozeit Posts: 116 Member
    Why not do both cardio and lift weights?!
  • MissMormie
    MissMormie Posts: 359 Member
    Neither lifting nor cardio will make you lose weight if you don't eat right. Food is 80% of the solution.

    Lifting helps you build muscles, or if you're eating at a deficit help you retain muscles. Muscles are active tissue, meaning they need calories throughout the day just to exist. Fat is passive, it does not require any energy just to sit there. That means that a part of the calories you can eat in a day are based on the amount of muscle you have. The less muscles, the less you need to eat to maintain or lose weight.

    If you're losing weight and you're not lifting, you are losing some of your muscles. Which makes your calories burned per day less and will have you eat even less to keep losing weight. On the other hand if you lift while losing the weight you'll mostly burn of fat, rather than a combination of fat and muscles and as a bonus you'll be able to eat more and have the same effect as without the lifting and eating less.

    Cardio is not a bad thing, it helps your stamina, and it burns of calories. But it only burns calories while you're doing the cardio. The nice thing about lifting is that it will help you burn calories even when you're not working out.

    So, to make it easiest on yourself to lose weight you want to start lifting straight away. But again, just lifting, or just cardio will not make your lose weight, it's the eating less that lets you lose. The cardio and lifting just make it easier to eat at a deficit.
  • schaapj2
    schaapj2 Posts: 320 Member
    bump for later
  • ChristiH4000
    ChristiH4000 Posts: 531 Member
    Both, always both! You don't have to spend two hours in the gym everyday, but everybody should do both. Ease into both and as the weight comes off you will get into harder and heavier stuff. Respect and listen to your body, but please do both.
  • schaapj2
    schaapj2 Posts: 320 Member
    bump
  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
    A mix of both would be best. I started obese and just cardio. I did not start seeing the results I wanted until I started incorporating lifting as well.
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
    Both.
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  • Bekahmardis
    Bekahmardis Posts: 602 Member
    Lifting and walking, walking and lifting. Do both, but watch your food intake both is amounts and type!
  • notworthstalking
    notworthstalking Posts: 531 Member
    Do both. The main thing with losing weight is to eat less then your body needs to get through the day. For me exercise is about health. A by product of exercise is a change in body shape. Eg more muscle , less fat. So while it's about the diet, exercise is so important. I am guess as an large person moving around can be tough? I wasn't super big, but I was more sedentary when I wasn't eat right and was super unfit. Building muscle strength can help you to move more. The stronger your legs are the further you can walk. The more likely you are to play with your kids etc. So to me strength training, can improve your daily life and make it easier to move more. Cardio works your heart, super important. It and strength training burn calories, but cardio seems to burn more calories quickly. So to me cardio is important.
  • alliemarie77
    alliemarie77 Posts: 378 Member
    Hi! I am in the obese category. I do both! You can't always tell by my exercise log, because I don't log it all, but I have been doing both since I started 2 weeks ago. It will be three weeks this Tuesday. I am already noticing small changes in my body.
    My kids and husband have noticed that my shirts are starting to look baggy. If I can do it anyone can! Good luck on your weight loss!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Hi,

    I have a few questions. I've been reading up on cardio vs. weight lifting. Even read some of the threads on MFP. And am a bit confused. Will someone with lets say a 48% body fat lose weight with lifting? Or should they do cardio first, lose the weight and THEN begin lifting? Most threads I have read say Lifting is the way to go and by they looks of their pictures I can tell they are very much correct however, I just wonder if they actually started out as and Obese person or just someone who needed to lose a few pounds. Either way all their pictures look amazing I just want to make sure that I am not lifiting weights when I should be doing cardio to lose a certian amount before lifting.
    As a trainer, I start ALL my obese clients with lifting and simple cardio. I keep it very basic for them and as they get better, I increase the weights and intensity.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • savithny
    savithny Posts: 1,200 Member
    Both.

    THey do different things, and both are really important to good health.

    Doing either of them, either alone or together, are not going to make you thin. A calorie deficit will help with that.

    But even if you didn't lose a single pound, doing cardio to improve your heart and lungs, and lifting to keep your muscles strong - will make you healthier and less likely to experience any of the things that people think of when they hear "obesity." Exercise improves your body's response to insulin, makes your mitochondria more efficient, retains and builds bone strength, lowers cholesterol levels, improves mode, and staves off the cell death that causes aging. It improves cognitive functioning and may prevent alzheimers or slow its progression. You would experience all those enormous benefits before you lost anything at all.

    Don't look at exercise as JUST something you must do to lose weight. That implies, among other things, that thin people must not need to exercise. Think of it as part of what you need to do to care for your body.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    If you are extrmely overweight start with something easy like walking so that you don't hurt your joints. Once you have shed some weight and there is less pressure on your knees and what not, start doing some more intense cardio and incorporate lifitng. Both are important for weight loss, but if you lift too heavy while you are extremely overweight you risk injuring yourself and setting yourself back.
    Unless one has been too sedentary to walk, then uptaking a lifting regimen is fine in the beginning. Activating the muscles around the joints through resistance training reduces the pressure on them and encourages metabolism more.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    I started lifting when I was very obese (BF% was close to 44-45%) and have lost 42 lbs while keeping my calorie deficit and lifting.

    You can definitely still lose weight lifting. The cool thing about lifting when you're big is that you're likely a lot stronger than you realize. Carrying around that much weight every day means you've got quite a bit of muscle mass underneath your fat. The trick is to learn to train it. Start light and work your way up, but definitely try it. You also don't have to make a choice. You can do both.

    As long as you keep a calorie deficit, you will lose weight.
    THIS.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • krhn
    krhn Posts: 781 Member
    Well for anyone with 48% bf doing any type of exercise will drop the weight/fat rapidly as long as your diet is the same but your caloric output is higher... Stick to both and you'll be losing loads of weight within 3 months
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    I do both, however I find that when I do a wee bit more cardio, I lose weight a tiny bit faster. But if I had to choose one or the other I'd keep lifting. I love lifting.
  • longin2bsexy
    longin2bsexy Posts: 42 Member
    BUMP!!!!
  • BigMech
    BigMech Posts: 472 Member
    I started out at 490lbs, and did both the whole time I was losing weight. I spent about 50% of my gym time lifting and 50% doing cardio. The lifting will help you maintain your lean muscle mass while you are losing weight, and the cardio will help burn some extra calories and be good for your cardiovascular health. I still do both while maintaining my goal weight, but it's more like 70% weight lifting and 30% cardio now.

    As other people have mentioned, your calorie intake is the key to weight loss.
  • karllundy
    karllundy Posts: 1,490 Member
    I started ~15 months ago at 40% BF. I did both and still do both. At first, I added a small amount of muscle, which helped burn more calories. Now, it is about keeping muscle and adding strength, while continuing the cardio to lose weight / fat. Good luck!!
  • maab_connor
    maab_connor Posts: 3,927 Member
    I started lifting when I was very obese (BF% was close to 44-45%) and have lost 42 lbs while keeping my calorie deficit and lifting.

    You can definitely still lose weight lifting. The cool thing about lifting when you're big is that you're likely a lot stronger than you realize. Carrying around that much weight every day means you've got quite a bit of muscle mass underneath your fat. The trick is to learn to train it. Start light and work your way up, but definitely try it. You also don't have to make a choice. You can do both.

    As long as you keep a calorie deficit, you will lose weight.

    THIS!!

    it doesn't have to be an either/or
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Use your diet for weight loss; exercise for fitness. Any fitness plan worth a **** is going to incorporate both resistance training and cardio...so do both. Your fitness goals will determine what is primary and what is ancillary. Cardio for cardiovascular health, weight lifting for strength and muscle retention, and diet for weight-loss.
  • Hexahedra
    Hexahedra Posts: 894 Member
    Do both. Assuming you do a proper caloric deficit diet, you will lose weight.

    If you were sedentary for a very long time you need at least some cardio to improve your overall fitness, and at this point cardio is going to burn you more calories than lifting. However, you need to start lifting to fortify your tendons, ligaments, etc. in preparation for more intense exercises later.
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
    Do both! Both both both...

    well I think weight lifting is easier. not that its easier to do. Its just easier to get up and say, ok lift! getting up to say ok run is harder.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    I mainly lift, but I do a bit of cardio also.

    Here is some info that might help you out: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/824518-fat-girl-dead-lifting?hl=Fat+girl+deadlifting