Does ("caffeine free") herbal tea count as water intake, or

CaseyBee
CaseyBee Posts: 163 Member
edited October 5 in Food and Nutrition
I haven't been drinking much straight water recently, but downing tea by the gallon because it's soooo cold!
As I was logging my food just now, I got to that darned water glass and went "wait a minute..."

So, does "caffeine free" herbal tea count as a glass of water? I realize that all tea has a minute amt of caffeine in it, whether or not it claims to be free....
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  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    yeah it's fine. It's not really pure water you need, but fluid in general (well as long as it's not alcohol ;) ).
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    I only count plain water as water, but there are lots of differing opinions on this.
  • therealkittymao
    therealkittymao Posts: 194 Member
    It totally counts as water! I use it to curb sweet cravings all the time, my favorites are Wild Sweet Orange from Tazo and True Blueberry from Celestial Seasonings.
  • You need 8 glasses of liquid a day.

    There are many debates on whether or not you should count it as water.

    My belief is that you should count it as water, because you are drinking a liquid. If the liquid has calories, add it to your diary, if it doesn't then just add it to the glasses of water you drank.

    I mean drinking 8 glasses of water on top of 4 glasses of tea seems a bit overboard. 4 glasses of each is the same thing. So why not count it as water?
  • Ashleysh22
    Ashleysh22 Posts: 204 Member
    absolutely. all water you drink counts as water intake. tea, coffee, kool-aid, etc. these are all just flavored waters. and on that note, most beverages have water in them. if you are trying to reach a certain goal (ie consume 8 cups of water a day) than yes, absolutely, you should count the tea/coffee.
  • CaseyBee
    CaseyBee Posts: 163 Member
    Ohmygosh, have you TRIED the Chocolate Hazelnut tea by STASH? The smell is much stronger than the taste, but WOW.
  • calderst
    calderst Posts: 222 Member

    So, does "caffeine free" herbal tea count as a glass of water? I realize that all tea has a minute amt of caffeine in it, whether or not it claims to be free....

    I'm not going to weigh in on the water question (I think it should count but I'm not an expert) but about the tea itself....

    Herbals don't contain any caffeine because they don't come from camellia sinensis (the tea plant). They are called "tisane" instead of tea because they are prepared the same way as tea but they come from different plant bases. If it's decaff tea, it will have trace amounts. If it's herbal and labeled "Caffeine Free," it should be totally caffeine free. Rooibos, or "red bush" tea is also caffeine free, as it is a tisane.

    (My parents own a tea shop).
  • CaseyBee
    CaseyBee Posts: 163 Member

    So, does "caffeine free" herbal tea count as a glass of water? I realize that all tea has a minute amt of caffeine in it, whether or not it claims to be free....

    I'm not going to weigh in on the water question (I think it should count but I'm not an expert) but about the tea itself....

    Herbals don't contain any caffeine because they don't come from camellia sinensis (the tea plant). They are called "tisane" instead of tea because they are prepared the same way as tea but they come from different plant bases. If it's decaff tea, it will have trace amounts. If it's herbal and labeled "Caffeine Free," it should be totally caffeine free. Rooibos, or "red bush" tea is also caffeine free, as it is a tisane.

    (My parents own a tea shop).

    Oh, you're definitely right. I was thinking of caffeine free COFFEE. Thank you! :)
  • AmerTunsi
    AmerTunsi Posts: 655 Member
    I've asked this question to a few doctors and researched it some. They all basically say that it needs to be pure water and the only additives that are okay are lemon or lime juice. The best explanation is basically that when it's not pure water it can be dehydrating as we see with caffeinated products or have sodium in it.

    I personally don't count anything by straight water as apart of my daily intake. But more importantly I came to this decision by listening to my body. I know I haven't drank enough water now because I get headaches, and if I drink tea or anything other than water it doesn't go away. I also can now tell that I've had too much sodium because I actually feel dehydrated and see signs in my skin and crave water.

    The final thing I look for is the color of my urine. If you are getting enough water it should be fairly clear. The darker it is the more water you need to be drinking.
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    I've asked this question to a few doctors and researched it some. They all basically say that it needs to be pure water and the only additives that are okay are lemon or lime juice. The best explanation is basically that when it's not pure water it can be dehydrating as we see with caffeinated products or have sodium in it.

    So if I drink one cup of coffee, and then immediately drink a cup of water, I can count that cup of water.
    But if I combine and mix the cup of coffee and the cup of water together and THEN drink it, I can't count the water anymore?
    I would rethink what the doctors told you.
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
    I've asked this question to a few doctors and researched it some. They all basically say that it needs to be pure water and the only additives that are okay are lemon or lime juice. The best explanation is basically that when it's not pure water it can be dehydrating as we see with caffeinated products or have sodium in it.

    I don't think you've been very rigorous in your research.
  • totalytammy
    totalytammy Posts: 3 Member
    What I have learned is that once water has been mixed with any foreign ingredient, your body no longer can separate, absorb and use the water. It simply flushes it out. It might quench your immediate thirst but it wont hydrate your organs which is waters main purpose.

    That being said, anytime you eat fresh fruits or vegetables, your body separates the water from the pulp and uses that water. If you juice or cook your fruits and vegetables it combines the water with the pulp and your body can no longer use that water and it can only use a portion of its nutrients. Therefore, if you eat a thick slice of watermelon that could be counted in your diary for calories, but also as a glass of water.
  • red_road
    red_road Posts: 761 Member
    yes
  • deemartin2
    deemartin2 Posts: 168 Member
    Ohmygosh, have you TRIED the Chocolate Hazelnut tea by STASH? The smell is much stronger than the taste, but WOW.

    omg that sounds so good! I love STASH Tea I drink their peppermint tea by the gallon!!
  • summersbest
    summersbest Posts: 194 Member
    I've been connected with two doctor supervised weight loss programs and both said that any decaffinated liquid counts towards water intake. ~
  • pjp1125
    pjp1125 Posts: 313
    Cold water has one great benefit that tea does not, your body burns calories heating the water up. It is one of the few things that you take in that actually expend energy without adding calories.

    Edited to add- cold tea would likely deliver the same benefit.
  • I am of the opinion that herbal teas would have a dual benefit. Many of the teas I drink are herbal mixes, only a couple have green tea in them. So, what does everyone think of teas with caffeine or sugar versus those without?
  • jerseyjenus
    jerseyjenus Posts: 82 Member
    I count my seltzer as water :>
  • Kanlassak
    Kanlassak Posts: 101 Member
    nevermind, i'm too tired to be posting on the internet today
  • quiltlovinlisa
    quiltlovinlisa Posts: 1,710 Member
    I always count my herbal tea towards my water. Especially now that it's COLD! Yummo!
  • quiltlovinlisa
    quiltlovinlisa Posts: 1,710 Member
    nevermind, i'm too tired to be posting on the internet today

    Before you edited your post, i was wondering the same thing.
  • darkguardian419
    darkguardian419 Posts: 1,302 Member
    does it have water in it?

    then yes.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    you do whatever you like, bless your little heart.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    OMG....WHAT is it with these 2 year old necromanced threads?
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    OMG....WHAT is it with these 2 year old necromanced threads?

    Ugh, I wish I would remember to check the dates!
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    What I have learned is that once water has been mixed with any foreign ingredient, your body no longer can separate, absorb and use the water. It simply flushes it out. It might quench your immediate thirst but it wont hydrate your organs which is waters main purpose.

    That being said, anytime you eat fresh fruits or vegetables, your body separates the water from the pulp and uses that water. If you juice or cook your fruits and vegetables it combines the water with the pulp and your body can no longer use that water and it can only use a portion of its nutrients. Therefore, if you eat a thick slice of watermelon that could be counted in your diary for calories, but also as a glass of water.

    I suggest going back to wherever you learned this and asking for your money back. It is completely untrue.
  • shalomabeth
    shalomabeth Posts: 63 Member
    i drink lemon and ginger yogi tea and do count it as water
  • SaiSrini
    SaiSrini Posts: 13 Member
    As long as the drink does not contain caffeine (caffeine dehydrates!) and other added ingredients like milk/creamer, it should count towards your water intake.

    I made herbal tea flavored water and enjoy drinking it. I make a glass of herbal tea (naturally decaffeinated) and mix it in cold water and then bottle it up in 20oz amounts. Basically, I am flavoring my water with herbal tea. Its fantastic and keeps me away from drinking the plain ol' water which is so uninteresting to drink when you don't really crave water (water tastes good only when you are thirsty).
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    OMG....WHAT is it with these 2 year old necromanced threads?

    Ugh, I wish I would remember to check the dates!

    It keeps happening!
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