Burning calories and still not losing weight

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  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    Did you just start restricting calories 2 weeks ago, or have you lost some weight already before now. If you have been restricting calories for a while, then you may have just hit a stall. If this is a new calorie restriction, then you should have lost at least a few pounds in 2 weeks. You have to be 100% honest in your logging. If you think you are doing everything right, but you have a couple of cheat days, it can wipe out your calorie deficit. If you open your diary, we can better help you.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    @sherrimiller12 I do sweat a lot on the treadmill sometimes its hard to keep up with 4.0 and my incline is always at 2. I havent measured my waist and other things and I am 5'7 and if I am building muscle when will I actually start to lose the weight or at least see that im losing on a scale?

    You aren't building muscle that quickly. If you eat back the exercise calories from the machine on top of the calories already allotted and you aren't actually measuring your calorie intake then you have your answer. You may be eating better food but you're still eating too much.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    @sherrimiller12 I do sweat a lot on the treadmill sometimes its hard to keep up with 4.0 and my incline is always at 2. I havent measured my waist and other things and I am 5'7 and if I am building muscle when will I actually start to lose the weight or at least see that im losing on a scale?

    You aren't building muscle that quickly. If you eat back the exercise calories from the machine on top of the calories already allotted and you aren't actually measuring your calorie intake then you have your answer. You may be eating better food but you're still eating too much.

    agreed.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    I got 1687 by the formula used in the biggest loser food journal. And I try to eat 1687 and burn 500 a day. Should I just go off of MFP calories per day for myself? And I set my treadmill on interval training every time I get on it. Two days out of the week I do jillian micheals 30 day shred

    Try a couple different multipliers..... MFP will give you numbers based upon the number of pounds you want to lose ..... this maybe too low because many people want to lose weight fast .... too fast.

    Healthy weight loss will have you losing mostly fat .... too fast weight loss will have you losing muscle (which is hard to replace).

    BMR - basal metabolic rate ..... calories needed if you were in a coma .... so you would eat these calories PLUS exercise calories
    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/bmr-calculator.html
    http://www.fitwatch.com/qkcalc/bmr.html ......

    Be conservative on your exercise calories.... say use 70% of the given number. Then adjust the % used for exercise up or down ... depending upon how your weight loss goes and how you feel.
  • lcfairbairn74
    lcfairbairn74 Posts: 412 Member
    I got 1687 by the formula used in the biggest loser food journal. And I try to eat 1687 and burn 500 a day. Should I just go off of MFP calories per day for myself? And I set my treadmill on interval training every time I get on it. Two days out of the week I do jillian micheals 30 day shred

    Try a couple different multipliers..... MFP will give you numbers based upon the number of pounds you want to lose ..... this maybe too low because many people want to lose weight fast .... too fast.

    Healthy weight loss will have you losing mostly fat .... too fast weight loss will have you losing muscle (which is hard to replace).

    BMR - basal metabolic rate ..... calories needed if you were in a coma .... so you would eat these calories PLUS exercise
    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/bmr-calculator.html
    http://www.fitwatch.com/qkcalc/bmr.html ......

    Be conservative on your exercise .... say use 70% of the given number. Then adjust the % used for exercise up or down ... depending upon how your weight loss goes and how you feel.

    I had honestly never heard of that method of calculating your daily calorie allowance! If I had used that system at my starting weight I would have been eating at maintenance and not lost anything! :wink:

    Pick one of the other systems. Either your mfp number or using the TDEE calculators as given by the OP above :smile:
  • shana1925
    shana1925 Posts: 13 Member
    I was losing weight before I started restricting my calories. I was 252 about 1 and 1/2 month ago. And then I when I hit 241 I started trying something different with the whole calorie intake thing
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    I was losing weight before I started restricting my calories. I was 252 about 1 and 1/2 month ago. And then I when I hit 241 I started trying something different with the whole calorie intake thing

    Why? If what you were doing before was working, why did you change it?
  • kw85296
    kw85296 Posts: 265 Member
    You said you haven't lost anything in two weeks, but your ticker says you lost 8 pounds. Did you lose that prior to the two weeks and are at a stall or do you not consider that a weight loss because your boyfriend lost 11 pounds during that time. Men will lose faster than women because of their muscle mass. If you lost prior to the past two weeks are you doing things any differently? Even on the Biggest Loser you will see that week two or three tend to be a little bit of a stall because your body is trying to get used to things. I think your daily calories are probably fine from what I can figure without knowing your height. Give it another couple of weeks, if you still don't see any loss, you may want to get checked out by a doctor to make sure there is nothing medically preventing you from losing. Feel free to friend me if you would like.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    The 1687 doesnt include the calories I eat back from exercise. And I usually dont measure. I eat meat baked boneless skinless chicken breast 2 times a week and they are individually wrapped. And I eat baked fish salmon mostly 2 times a week which are also individually wrapped.

    How many exercise calories are you eating back...something is off somewhere. You shoudl be losing. I lose grossing 2300 calories per day and I'm only 5'10"
  • SandyAnnP
    SandyAnnP Posts: 252 Member
    I would head over to scoobysworkshop.com and try that calorie calculator. Lots of people have great results using it if you use accurate info.

    Thanks for that info. Looks like a great site. :)
  • shana1925
    shana1925 Posts: 13 Member
    Well prior to now I wasnt working out sadly. I would just do like household things wash etc. I wanted to change now because I felt I needed.to include exercise in my everyday life. And now idk whats going on. So I just recalculated MFP and it said since im active I should consume 1740 cal a day....so if thats true then should I eat 1740 and workout or just eat 1740 minus the 500 cal workout? And does anyone know if bodymedia works or should I invest in purchasing one?
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    @sherrimiller12 I do sweat a lot on the treadmill sometimes its hard to keep up with 4.0 and my incline is always at 2. I havent measured my waist and other things and I am 5'7 and if I am building muscle when will I actually start to lose the weight or at least see that im losing on a scale?

    Indeed, you are burning decent amount per hr, about 573 NET. MFP or HRM or treadmill would be reporting GROSS.

    So that would be your eat-back.

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/WalkRunMETs.html

    And that is highly accurate, more than people think, better than HRM actually when walking that speed.

    And it is a decent workout for you now with a lot to lose, it won't be way down the road.

    So you are also on your feet all day long.

    So if walking is still a struggle for you, that is making body improvements, which will not be weight loss, but gain.

    So measurements very necessary at the start here as you make increases in stored glucose and water, greater blood volume with water, ect, and fat inches drop.

    When your body is done making those improvements needed that your exercise is asking for, then weight can drop.

    Did that calorie goal include only exercise, or fact you are on your feet all day?

    And indeed weigh food for couple weeks, just to see how close you really were. Though it sure would be hard to make up a big deficit like that merely through slightly mismeasurements, unless you are forgetting whole meals.
  • shana1925
    shana1925 Posts: 13 Member
    @heybales....I think I got confused on what you said? Lol. Today when I did 4.0 my shirt was totally drenched in sweat....so I would assume I am burning 500 cal? Plus I my thigh muscles are kinda sore...so I would assume im doing something right. But are you saying that im just gaining muscle?
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    Well prior to now I wasnt working out sadly. I would just do like household things wash etc. I wanted to change now because I felt I needed.to include exercise in my everyday life. And now idk whats going on. So I just recalculated MFP and it said since im active I should consume 1740 cal a day....so if thats true then should I eat 1740 and workout or just eat 1740 minus the 500 cal workout? And does anyone know if bodymedia works or should I invest in purchasing one?

    MFP gives you a deficit BEFORE exercise so yes, you eat exercise calories back ..... BUT be careful here.

    Activity level - you were given extra calories for that. If you are "acutally" moderately active (or anything less than active) .... then the bump in calories was too much.

    If your calorie burn as stated is too high ..... then eating back a percentage is wise. Pick a percentage & see how it goes.

    Re: BodyMedia/BodyBug whatever .... those are not really very good for calculating cardio workouts .... that's a HRM (heart rate monitor).
  • shana1925
    shana1925 Posts: 13 Member
    @sherrimiller12 I do sweat a lot on the treadmill sometimes its hard to keep up with 4.0 and my incline is always at 2. I havent measured my waist and other things and I am 5'7 and if I am building muscle when will I actually start to lose the weight or at least see that im losing on a scale?

    Indeed, you are burning decent amount per hr, about 573 NET. MFP or HRM or treadmill would be reporting GROSS.

    So that would be your eat-back.

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/WalkRunMETs.html

    And that is highly accurate, more than people think, better than HRM actually when walking that speed.

    And it is a decent workout for you now with a lot to lose, it won't be way down the road.

    So you are also on your feet all day long.

    So if walking is still a struggle for you, that is making body improvements, which will not be weight loss, but gain.

    So measurements very necessary at the start here as you make increases in stored glucose and water, greater blood volume with water, ect, and fat inches drop.

    When your body is done making those improvements needed that your exercise is asking for, then weight can drop.

    Did that calorie goal include only exercise, or fact you are on your feet all day?

    And indeed weigh food for couple weeks, just to see how close you really were. Though it sure would be hard to make up a big deficit like that merely through slightly mismeasurements, unless you are forgetting whole meals.


    The 500 calorie came specifically from treadmill
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    The 500 calorie came specifically from treadmill

    Machines over state calories too .....

    Calorie burn is dependent upon many factors: height, weight, age, gender .....EXERTION level ..... as well as others.

    What a HRM "attempts" to do ...... it knows your resting heart rate and compares that with your heart rate during the workout. The more often your heart rate is measured .... the more accurate it will be. This is why a HRM with a chest strap is most likely a more accurate figure than wrist only models.

    A certain MPH or incline may be hard for you (sweat is not a factor) ..... that very same workout may be easy for the next person.

    Machines that don't have you input various factors use DEFAULTS. Men burn more calories than women .... they are larger, they have more muscle mass.
  • ZandaD
    ZandaD Posts: 1
    I am running on my treadmill every other day and normally I burn around 690 cal when I run on speed 8km p/h and my incline is 4, so I dont think walking would burn same amount cal.... Maybe you should try some other calorie caunter?
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    @sherrimiller12 I do sweat a lot on the treadmill sometimes its hard to keep up with 4.0 and my incline is always at 2. I havent measured my waist and other things and I am 5'7 and if I am building muscle when will I actually start to lose the weight or at least see that im losing on a scale?

    Indeed, you are burning decent amount per hr, about 573 NET. MFP or HRM or treadmill would be reporting GROSS.

    So that would be your eat-back.

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/WalkRunMETs.html

    And that is highly accurate, more than people think, better than HRM actually when walking that speed.

    And it is a decent workout for you now with a lot to lose, it won't be way down the road.

    So you are also on your feet all day long.

    So if walking is still a struggle for you, that is making body improvements, which will not be weight loss, but gain.

    So measurements very necessary at the start here as you make increases in stored glucose and water, greater blood volume with water, ect, and fat inches drop.

    When your body is done making those improvements needed that your exercise is asking for, then weight can drop.

    Did that calorie goal include only exercise, or fact you are on your feet all day?

    And indeed weigh food for couple weeks, just to see how close you really were. Though it sure would be hard to make up a big deficit like that merely through slightly mismeasurements, unless you are forgetting whole meals.


    The 500 calorie came specifically from treadmill

    Then it was close, but it should have reported even more.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    @heybales....I think I got confused on what you said? Lol. Today when I did 4.0 my shirt was totally drenched in sweat....so I would assume I am burning 500 cal? Plus I my thigh muscles are kinda sore...so I would assume im doing something right. But are you saying that im just gaining muscle?

    You may be gaining some muscle, non-measurable amounts, to carry the load in this manner you are not accustomed too.

    But LBM =/= muscle mass.
    Rather, muscle mass is just one of many things that are a part of LBM. You can gain LBM without gaining any muscle mass.
    BMR energy calories is mainly spent on water management in the cells.
    Water weight is biggest part of LBM and if it goes up, metabolism goes up.
    And if fat is dropping at the same time - weight stays the same.

    You are burning more calories than 500, according to formula's found very accurate for speeds 2.4 - 4 mph, 573 calories actually, over and above what you would have burned just resting.

    You are going longer and farther and faster than you have ever before. Your's body's response - store more glucose for endurance. Glucose stores with water.
    Need more oxygen for this effort, increase red blood cells and blood volume. That's more water.
    Muscles have been worked out, time to repair. That retains water in them.
  • kitty_kong
    kitty_kong Posts: 56
    I am 23 years old and weigh 241lbs. I have been trying to lose weight for the past 2 weeks now but nothing is coming off? I dont understand what I am doing wrong- I eat or try to eat 1687 calories a day and so far I have been burning between 500-700 cal on the treadmill walking on average 3.5 or 4.0 at 45-60min a day in the morning before I even eat. I would like to get down to 220 in the next 5vwks. Can someone please explain to me what I am doing wrong? My boyfriend has been working out with me and he has already lost 11 pounds! Please reply with seriousness. Thanks

    That's a lot of calories to be eating!!! Average is 1,200
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I am 23 years old and weigh 241lbs. I have been trying to lose weight for the past 2 weeks now but nothing is coming off? I dont understand what I am doing wrong- I eat or try to eat 1687 calories a day and so far I have been burning between 500-700 cal on the treadmill walking on average 3.5 or 4.0 at 45-60min a day in the morning before I even eat. I would like to get down to 220 in the next 5vwks. Can someone please explain to me what I am doing wrong? My boyfriend has been working out with me and he has already lost 11 pounds! Please reply with seriousness. Thanks

    That's a lot of calories to be eating!!! Average is 1,200

    No, minimum recommend for sedentary person for reason of safely getting all their nutrients in is 1200.

    Much like minimum building codes - not for performance, not for longevity, not for aesthetics, safety only.

    You want to perform better, live longer, look better - then exercise and eat more than minimum safety 1200.

    And until someone has actually logged what they used to eat before starting their diet - they have no informed opinion regarding what is high or low calorie level - vast majority have absolutely no clue outside common recommendations.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    So I just recalculated MFP and it said since im active I should consume 1740 cal a day.

    Why would you choose active? You can't choose active based on an hour of walking and then also eat that back.
  • shana1925
    shana1925 Posts: 13 Member
    I chose active because walking at a speed of 4.0 is pretty hard for me but i do it for 60 min and i burn alot of calories. Also, I dont just walk everyday I also workout to jillian micheals 30 day shred and sometimes do Billy Banks and I workout 4-5 days a week...combining all of those I dont think it would fit the criteria as "lightly active"
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    The activity setting is for your job or usual daily activity. You add your exercise separately. Choosing active and then eating your exercise as well is double dipping on calories.

    Also perceived exertion based on not being very fit doesn't bump up your activity level. Sweat, being tired and sore muscles shows a poor level of fitness, not that you are working harder than anyone else.
  • herblackwings39
    herblackwings39 Posts: 3,930 Member
    I chose active because walking at a speed of 4.0 is pretty hard for me but i do it for 60 min and i burn alot of calories. Also, I dont just walk everyday I also workout to jillian micheals 30 day shred and sometimes do Billy Banks and I workout 4-5 days a week...combining all of those I dont think it would fit the criteria as "lightly active"

    MFP doesn't consider your exercise in setting up your calories. It only wants your job info. There is a section for your fitness goals, but it's not part of the calculation. Go with your normal daily work type activities then log your work outs and eat those or part of those back. Don't figure them in.
  • Emjay70
    Emjay70 Posts: 16 Member
    Are you drinking enough water. Make sure you stay hydrated.
  • Powerfocus
    Powerfocus Posts: 18
    What you are eating is really important as well as the combination on your plate. Fruits are nice but some are high in sugar like bananas, watermelon, pineapple, etc but if you are a vegan these may be okay for you. This is what I do I try things and see how my body reacts. I stick to nutrient dense food, low carb fruits and veggies. For example instead of bananas I eat berries, instead of potatoes I eat green veggies, instead of corn I eat bran, and I only eat 98 to 99% fat free meats turkey chicken fish or vegetarian meats low fat check your plate combination you want to have protein fiber low fat. I don't do oil only fish oil supplement and primrose oil supplement I know olive oil is a healthy fat but for me doesn't show on the waist line and still equals to 120grams of fat for a serving . I know nuts are healthy but they are high in fat and I will not eat them unless I know I have worked more than enough to burn them off. Food labels tell you a lot you might want to check the salt it makes you retain water .
  • miriams76
    miriams76 Posts: 138 Member
    I started exercising more intensively just over a month and a half ago. The first month, only about 1lb came off despite quite low nets and always being under my calorie goal (1300). I've lost about six lbs since though! Most of that has started dropping off the last couple of weeks. Whenever I've tried to lose weight, it's been like ths. The first month or so, nada, and it can be a bit disheartening. I think my body just needs time to adjust though. That's why it's so important to keep going and not think you are biologically programmed to not lose weight or something. Good luck, well done and don't give up :) Give it time.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    I chose active because walking at a speed of 4.0 is pretty hard for me but i do it for 60 min and i burn alot of calories. Also, I dont just walk everyday I also workout to jillian micheals 30 day shred and sometimes do Billy Banks and I workout 4-5 days a week...combining all of those I dont think it would fit the criteria as "lightly active"

    That's fine. Go with it for a month or so and see what happens. If your expected results match your actual results, you'll know you are pretty close with your numbers/estimates. If not, you'll need to tweak one way or the other.

    Just know that since you are factoring exercise into the calculation (activity setting), you won't want to eat back exercise cals.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    The activity setting is for your job or usual daily activity. You add your exercise separately. Choosing active and then eating your exercise as well is double dipping on calories.
    There's nothing wrong with doing it this way (provided she doesn't eat back exercise cals). Most people don't use MFP this way, but it should work just fine. She's basically using it to calculate TDEE rather than NEAT.
    Also perceived exertion based on not being very fit doesn't bump up your activity level. Sweat, being tired and sore muscles shows a poor level of fitness, not that you are working harder than anyone else.
    Agreed.

    Perceived exertion simply indicates how hard you are pushing yourself compared to your own current level of fitness. It's not necessarily an indicator of cals burned.