Partially hydrogenated oils....WTF!!!!!

So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.
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  • 6spdeg
    6spdeg Posts: 394 Member
    you are absolutely correct with this.. teaches ppl that it is important to read labels and ingredients to understand what they are eating because the FDA etc won't do it for you to keep you healthy!
  • redhead1910
    redhead1910 Posts: 304 Member
    Diet soda companies can pay a fee to put on their bottle that it is 0 calories, when in reality they can contain up to 10 calories per serving. It's nto a lot, but the fact that companies can buy their way out of honesty is frightening, especially when it comes to what we put in our bodies.
  • fatboy235
    fatboy235 Posts: 147 Member
    mountain dew and diet mountain dew have bromiated vegitable oil as the last ingredient. If you don't believe me look it up
  • Morgaine_on_the_move
    Morgaine_on_the_move Posts: 228 Member
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!
  • jsd_135
    jsd_135 Posts: 291 Member
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost empty bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans.

    Re: refried beans: If your store carries them, switch to La Preferida's refried beans. The "Authentic" version is made with lard, which is an ingredient in traditional refried beans. They also have fat free and other varieties, but the Authentic version tastes better.
  • Jmchao
    Jmchao Posts: 27 Member
    In my high school biology class oh-so-long-ago, our teacher spoke about hydrogenated oils. Since then, I've made conscience choices such as using regular, unsalted butter vs. any of the butter-like spreads. I haven't read every single ingredients list, but when I do, I try to make sure it's towards the bottom of the list if it's in there at all. I remember how she put it, too..."Here, let's take all this stuff that's not that good for you, break it all down, then put it back together again with the worst of the bad stuff. You're better off just eating regular butter and letting your body break it down instead of the laboratory!"
  • TLWallperson
    TLWallperson Posts: 125
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!

    I will look these up also. Thanks for that info. However, if I keep reading about all the poisons in our food I may just turn Amish...lol.
  • Skratchie
    Skratchie Posts: 131 Member
    Sorry, but if you want to eat healthy and avoid "hidden" ingredients, don't by prepackaged foods. My brain is a bit boggled that you didn't realize refried beans would likely have trans fat ...

    To avoid trans fat, don't buy anything in a can or box ... but be aware that there is a bit of trans fat in many whole foods as well.
  • KyleB65
    KyleB65 Posts: 1,196 Member
    Yup, why I have started using coconut oil.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!

    One thing at a time.

    Get off prepackaged foods first; then move to farmer's markets; then go over to never stepping in a grocery store again before hating on the one corporation that is apparently the antichrist.
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!

    I will look these up also. Thanks for that info. However, if I keep reading about all the poisons in our food I may just turn Amish...lol.

    And another paranoid nutrition zealot was born.
  • tuckerrj
    tuckerrj Posts: 1,453 Member
    Diet soda companies can pay a fee to put on their bottle that it is 0 calories, when in reality they can contain up to 10 calories per serving. It's nto a lot, but the fact that companies can buy their way out of honesty is frightening, especially when it comes to what we put in our bodies.

    Not trying to be combative, but please quote me your source for this information about buying the right to lie on labeling. I couldn't find it anywhere!
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
    You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
    And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

    If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.

    Stay away from grass fed beef too, higher in trans fats than grain fed beef
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Diet soda companies can pay a fee to put on their bottle that it is 0 calories, when in reality they can contain up to 10 calories per serving. It's nto a lot, but the fact that companies can buy their way out of honesty is frightening, especially when it comes to what we put in our bodies.

    Not trying to be combative, but please quote me your source for this information about buying the right to lie on labeling. I couldn't find it anywhere!

    Yeah, I'm calling BS on that too.
  • TLWallperson
    TLWallperson Posts: 125
    Sorry, but if you want to eat healthy and avoid "hidden" ingredients, don't by prepackaged foods. My brain is a bit boggled that you didn't realize refried beans would likely have trans fat ...

    To avoid trans fat, don't buy anything in a can or box ... but be aware that there is a bit of trans fat in many whole foods as well.

    Honestly, my healthy eating/lifestyle has been pretty recent. Before I didn't care so much about reading lables. But now that I am concerened about it I know now that most pkged food is not healthy, even the so called healthy ones. Plus I am and will continue to be more vigilant.
  • bound4beauty
    bound4beauty Posts: 274 Member
    paranoid nutrition zealotry aside...that's one good reason to give up packaged food. Cook from scratch as much as possible. The ideal would be to only purchase organic, grass fed, etc...but that's too expensive for a lot of people. You can stop relying on packaged food though and it you have to buy something in a box or can, read the label carefully.
  • Dori_Gaga
    Dori_Gaga Posts: 50 Member
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!

    I will look these up also. Thanks for that info. However, if I keep reading about all the poisons in our food I may just turn Amish...lol.

    Watch the documentary "Food, Inc", gives you some insight into Monsanto, and also talks about the revolving door between the food industry and the FDA. Corporations control the FDA, so they can get a lot of stuff passed as safe that shouldn't be.

    I'm thankful to live in Canada because, while far from perfect, our government has banned some things (like rBGH) that are still allowed in the US, and I believe they have banned transfats in schools, and they were at one point working on banning them all together in the country (which I hope happens!).

    In the US you need to be even more wary because there is a lot more that is allowed to be put in your that is unsafe. The food industry doesn't care about your health, it cares about money.

    Eat clean, buy local, buy organic, vote with your dollars. Don't buy anything with ingredients you don't recognize.

    A friend of mine just bought baby formula in the states, the same brand and everything she buys here, because it's way cheaper there, and she fed it to her baby and it was making her baby sick, so she switched her back to the Canadian stuff and checked it out and it turns out there is a lot of stuff allowed in American baby formula that is banned in Canada... American babies who consume it right from birth can tolerate it, but a baby who had gotten used to not having those extra chemicals couldn't digest it. It's kind of scary!
  • Karabobarra
    Karabobarra Posts: 782 Member
    Naturalnews.com

    you can search on ingredients and find out what it is and how it effects your body.

    I just read an article that was written by someone who worked for a global company that had many global food companies as clients she said "When dealing with the companies outside of the US they would ask How can we make the same product with healthier ingredients, when dealing with the US companies they would ask How can we make the same ingredients SOUND healther."

    The more I learn the more I lean away from processed foods, I'm currently looking into Paleo ... don't even get me started on GMO's
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!

    I will look these up also. Thanks for that info. However, if I keep reading about all the poisons in our food I may just turn Amish...lol.

    Watch the documentary "Food, Inc", gives you some insight into Monsanto, and also talks about the revolving door between the food industry and the FDA. Corporations control the FDA, so they can get a lot of stuff passed as safe that shouldn't be.

    I'm thankful to live in Canada because, while far from perfect, our government has banned some things (like rBGH) that are still allowed in the US, and I believe they have banned transfats in schools, and they were at one point working on banning them all together in the country (which I hope happens!).

    In the US you need to be even more wary because there is a lot more that is allowed to be put in your that is unsafe. The food industry doesn't care about your health, it cares about money.

    Eat clean, buy local, buy organic, vote with your dollars. Don't buy anything with ingredients you don't recognize.

    A friend of mine just bought baby formula in the states, the same brand and everything she buys here, because it's way cheaper there, and she fed it to her baby and it was making her baby sick, so she switched her back to the Canadian stuff and checked it out and it turns out there is a lot of stuff allowed in American baby formula that is banned in Canada... American babies who consume it right from birth can tolerate it, but a baby who had gotten used to not having those extra chemicals couldn't digest it. It's kind of scary!

    Tinfoil hat much? And lol at wishing all trans fats were banned
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Naturalnews.com

    you can search on ingredients and find out what it is and how it effects your body.

    I just read an article that was written by someone who worked for a global company that had many global food companies as clients she said "When dealing with the companies outside of the US they would ask How can we make the same product with healthier ingredients, when dealing with the US companies they would ask How can we make the same ingredients SOUND healther."

    The more I learn the more I lean away from processed foods, I'm currently looking into Paleo ... don't even get me started on GMO's

    What about GMO's? What actual evidence is there to support that it is bad?
  • Dori_Gaga
    Dori_Gaga Posts: 50 Member
    So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
    You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
    And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

    If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.

    Stay away from grass fed beef too, higher in trans fats than grain fed beef

    I believe you have that backwards. You want to go for grass-fed beef. Cows naturally eat grass, eating grains is unnatural, and it makes them sick, which is part of the reason they preemptively pump them full of antibiotics (that, and to stop them from getting sick in the overcrowded populations of factory farms).

    Grass-fed beef that is raised naturally with no antibiotics or growth hormone is ideal, but that's not cost effective for the food industry. It takes four years to raise a beef cow, but with growth hormone they can do it in 6 months, which results in a bigger, fattier cow, and leads to the beef-eaters gaining weight, and developing illnesses and early puberty in kids due to the hormones, and also antibiotic resistance due to ingesting antibiotics in the meat.

    If nothing else, get organic meat. It costs more, but when you weigh that against the costs of illness and obesity, it's worth it.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
    You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
    And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

    If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.

    Stay away from grass fed beef too, higher in trans fats than grain fed beef

    I believe you have that backwards. You want to go for grass-fed beef. Cows naturally eat grass, eating grains is unnatural, and it makes them sick, which is part of the reason they preemptively pump them full of antibiotics (that, and to stop them from getting sick in the overcrowded populations of factory farms).

    Grass-fed beef that is raised naturally with no antibiotics or growth hormone is ideal, but that's not cost effective for the food industry. It takes four years to raise a beef cow, but with growth hormone they can do it in 6 months, which results in a bigger, fattier cow, and leads to the beef-eaters gaining weight, and developing illnesses and early puberty in kids due to the hormones, and also antibiotic resistance due to ingesting antibiotics in the meat.

    If nothing else, get organic meat. It costs more, but when you weigh that against the costs of illness and obesity, it's worth it.

    Please make up your mind, if you want all trans fats to be banned, i'm unsure why you would say grass fed beef is better, as it is higher in trans fats
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    In for ludicrous medical claims
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
    You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
    And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

    If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.

    Stay away from grass fed beef too, higher in trans fats than grain fed beef

    I believe you have that backwards. You want to go for grass-fed beef. Cows naturally eat grass, eating grains is unnatural, and it makes them sick, which is part of the reason they preemptively pump them full of antibiotics (that, and to stop them from getting sick in the overcrowded populations of factory farms).

    Grass-fed beef that is raised naturally with no antibiotics or growth hormone is ideal, but that's not cost effective for the food industry. It takes four years to raise a beef cow, but with growth hormone they can do it in 6 months, which results in a bigger, fattier cow, and leads to the beef-eaters gaining weight, and developing illnesses and early puberty in kids due to the hormones, and also antibiotic resistance due to ingesting antibiotics in the meat.

    If nothing else, get organic meat. It costs more, but when you weigh that against the costs of illness and obesity, it's worth it.

    Please make up your mind, if you want all trans fats to be banned, i'm unsure why you would say grass fed beef is better, as it is higher in trans fats

    Silly, those are naturally occurring!
  • Dori_Gaga
    Dori_Gaga Posts: 50 Member
    So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
    You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
    And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

    If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.

    Stay away from grass fed beef too, higher in trans fats than grain fed beef

    I believe you have that backwards. You want to go for grass-fed beef. Cows naturally eat grass, eating grains is unnatural, and it makes them sick, which is part of the reason they preemptively pump them full of antibiotics (that, and to stop them from getting sick in the overcrowded populations of factory farms).

    Grass-fed beef that is raised naturally with no antibiotics or growth hormone is ideal, but that's not cost effective for the food industry. It takes four years to raise a beef cow, but with growth hormone they can do it in 6 months, which results in a bigger, fattier cow, and leads to the beef-eaters gaining weight, and developing illnesses and early puberty in kids due to the hormones, and also antibiotic resistance due to ingesting antibiotics in the meat.

    If nothing else, get organic meat. It costs more, but when you weigh that against the costs of illness and obesity, it's worth it.

    Please make up your mind, if you want all trans fats to be banned, i'm unsure why you would say grass fed beef is better, as it is higher in trans fats

    They want to ban artificial transfats, like the stuff in margarine. I guess I should have been more specific. Most people when they talk about transfats are talking about things like hydrogenated oils and things that are modified and manufactured. Transfat in beef that is raised naturally is not going to hurt people. Eating food that is one molecule away from plastic is not so good for people.

    I will take the transfat in grass-fed beef over the hormones and antibiotics in grain fed beef, and I will take butter over margarine because I like to eat real food, not artificial crap that is manufactured in factories.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Link to a post I made late last week. I'm sure it's TL:DR for most.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/998983-misconceptions-of-organic-food-s

    http://rameznaam.com/2013/04/28/the-evidence-on-gmo-safety/

    "A Scientific Consensus

    All together, the scientific consensus around the safety of genetically modified foods is as strong as the scientific consensus around climate change. These foods have been studied more than any other, and everything tells us that they’re safe."
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Please make up your mind, if you want all trans fats to be banned, i'm unsure why you would say grass fed beef is better, as it is higher in trans fats

    This says grain feeding increases trans fat: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500874
  • TLWallperson
    TLWallperson Posts: 125
    Next up on your reading list...GMOs. And Monsanto.

    Our food industry does NOT have our best interests in mind!!

    I will look these up also. Thanks for that info. However, if I keep reading about all the poisons in our food I may just turn Amish...lol.

    And another paranoid nutrition zealot was born.

    So, to you this is paranoia because I want my family and myself to live a healthy life style and I'm finding it difficult because the pkged food I thought was healthy, because it's advertised as healthy with 0 trans fat is actually not. Who would have ever thought that childrens vitamins would have trans fat in them?
    The fact of the matter is, most people, including myself until recently, believe what it says on the front of the box and on the nutrition lable. Not to mention, again most people aren't looking at the nutrition content as much as looking at the price. My family along with many others CAN NOT always afford the healthiest choices even if we want to buy them. Which P!SSES me off to no end that our government, our FISRT LADY is spouting about the obesity epidemic in our country and trying to condemn families that have obese children, yet, say NOTHING about the high cost of healthy/organic food.
    SHAME ON YOU for your petty comment about my concerns for my family.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    So I've doing some reading on partially hydrogenated oils. So far what I have read is that ANY oil that has been hydrogenized in any way is pretty much the worst thing a person can eat. Plus all partially hydrogenated oil =trans fat. Fine so I just won't buy foods that have trans fat, no big deal. Right? Well here's the kicker, even if the lable on the box says 0 trans fat that doesn't mean it's completely trans fat free. The reason being is that the USDA says as long as something is .5 or less per serving it doesn't have to be listed.
    You can know if a food has trans fat by reading the ingredients on the box. If it says partially hydrogenated oil, of any kind, then it has trans fat. It may only be trace amounts per serving, but if you eat more then a serving then it adds up.
    When I went grocery shopping this morning I was angry and astounded at how many pkged foods have partially hydrogenated oil in them. Several of these foods I buy on a regular basis, INCLUDING, Flintstone vitamins ( threw an almost full bottle in the trash when I found out ) and El Paso refried beans. I am very angry because I've been under the assumption that many of the things I have been buying were at least somewhat healthy. From now on I will be checking everything that I put in my shopping cart.
    And what makes me more angry is that the food industries can and are getting away with this, not to mention all the other garbage thats being put into our food. It's one thing for a person to not care about what they eat and eat whatever they want , but when a person is trying to eat healthy and make sure their children are eating healthy as well, it's almost impossible when the food industry is hiding the poison and advertising it as healthy.

    If anyone does not know the health dangers of trans fat and partially hydrogenated oils, please look it up. It will certainly change your mind about what you buy and what you eat.

    Stay away from grass fed beef too, higher in trans fats than grain fed beef

    I believe you have that backwards. You want to go for grass-fed beef. Cows naturally eat grass, eating grains is unnatural, and it makes them sick, which is part of the reason they preemptively pump them full of antibiotics (that, and to stop them from getting sick in the overcrowded populations of factory farms).

    Grass-fed beef that is raised naturally with no antibiotics or growth hormone is ideal, but that's not cost effective for the food industry. It takes four years to raise a beef cow, but with growth hormone they can do it in 6 months, which results in a bigger, fattier cow, and leads to the beef-eaters gaining weight, and developing illnesses and early puberty in kids due to the hormones, and also antibiotic resistance due to ingesting antibiotics in the meat.

    If nothing else, get organic meat. It costs more, but when you weigh that against the costs of illness and obesity, it's worth it.

    Please make up your mind, if you want all trans fats to be banned, i'm unsure why you would say grass fed beef is better, as it is higher in trans fats

    They want to ban artificial transfats, like the stuff in margarine. I guess I should have been more specific. Most people when they talk about transfats are talking about things like hydrogenated oils and things that are modified and manufactured. Transfat in beef that is raised naturally is not going to hurt people. Eating food that is one molecule away from plastic is not so good for people.

    I will take the transfat in grass-fed beef over the hormones and antibiotics in grain fed beef, and I will take butter over margarine because I like to eat real food, not artificial crap that is manufactured in factories.

    What about ingesting something that is one molecule away from explosive gas? Is that good or bad?

    So you were fear mongering when talking about all trans fats being bad?
  • Dori_Gaga
    Dori_Gaga Posts: 50 Member
    Link to a post I made late last week. I'm sure it's TL:DR for most.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/998983-misconceptions-of-organic-food-s

    http://rameznaam.com/2013/04/28/the-evidence-on-gmo-safety/

    "A Scientific Consensus

    All together, the scientific consensus around the safety of genetically modified foods is as strong as the scientific consensus around climate change. These foods have been studied more than any other, and everything tells us that they’re safe."

    I didn't read it, but does it say who funded the study by any chance? Food and beverage companies fund most of the studies that, not surprisingly, deem their product as safe.