Question for restaurant servers.
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Soda and water refills are entirely what my tip amounts are based upon. And I refuse to ask for a refill. I just sit silently with my empty glass on the end of the table counting how many times they pass by without noticing.
From time to time unfortunately, we can be overly focused on excess. Not always because we want or need it, but just because it's there.0 -
why don't you just drink water? they refill that more often because they leave pitches out and don't have to go to the back.
plus it doesn't rot your teeth
Most serve water in plastic/from plastic and it tastes disguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusting.0 -
If this is a common occurance, maybe it's you? I've never been to a restaurant that didn't at least offer to refill my drink.
Great comment!!
You don't ask....you'll never know
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I have a question for customers: can you not see that I'm running my butt off serving 6 to 8 other tables? That I'm seating people at the door, helping people at the register, making soups, making salads, and I just can't do it all at once? You drank your soda in three minutes? That sucks, do you want me to just sit here and watch your table non-stop? I do the best I can, and I'm serving 25 customers at a time in my cheap restaurant where we're understaffed, so thanks for shorting my tip because I'm not superwoman.0
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For all you people who say they "just don't tip" or leave a few pennies, heads up to this. Servers are charged taxes on their total sales. They have to pay taxes based on 8% of that total (its been a while since I was a server so it could be more now in CA at least). So if you don't tip at least 8%, that server actually loses money waiting on you. SO unless the server is especially rude or bad at their job, please don't screw them like that. As someone who lived off of tips (although I was a damn good server) cheap *kitten* who stiffed me or tipped next to nothing deserved to get throat punched. That is all.....0
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I have a question for customers: can you not see that I'm running my butt off serving 6 to 8 other tables? That I'm seating people at the door, helping people at the register, making soups, making salads, and I just can't do it all at once? You drank your soda in three minutes? That sucks, do you want me to just sit here and watch your table non-stop? I do the best I can, and I'm serving 25 customers at a time in my cheap restaurant where we're understaffed, so thanks for shorting my tip because I'm not superwoman.
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How on earth does your bladder hold so much!??? in UK, very rarely will you encounter anywhere that does refills and if it does you pay a little extra for free refills (that doesnt really work out but its unlimited drinks!)
But really how can you drink more than two pint glasses and still have room for your meal???0 -
For all you people who say they "just don't tip" or leave a few pennies, heads up to this. Servers are charged taxes on their total sales. They have to pay taxes based on 8% of that total (its been a while since I was a server so it could be more now in CA at least). So if you don't tip at least 8%, that server actually loses money waiting on you. SO unless the server is especially rude or bad at their job, please don't screw them like that. As someone who lived off of tips (although I was a damn good server) cheap *kitten* who stiffed me or tipped next to nothing deserved to get throat punched. That is all.....
This doesn't apply in the UK, nor in other countries in Europe I've lived in so far (Greece, France, Holland & Germany).
So yeah... I don't tip. They get minimum wage just like the rest of us.0 -
For all you people who say they "just don't tip" or leave a few pennies, heads up to this. Servers are charged taxes on their total sales. They have to pay taxes based on 8% of that total (its been a while since I was a server so it could be more now in CA at least). So if you don't tip at least 8%, that server actually loses money waiting on you. SO unless the server is especially rude or bad at their job, please don't screw them like that. As someone who lived off of tips (although I was a damn good server) cheap *kitten* who stiffed me or tipped next to nothing deserved to get throat punched. That is all.....
This doesn't apply in the UK, nor in other countries in Europe I've lived in so far (Greece, France, Holland & Germany).
So yeah... I don't tip. They get minimum wage just like the rest of us.
Well then I guess you are entitled to being cheap :drinker:0 -
I would be embarrassed to get more than 1 refill of soda at a restaurant, it doesn't seem like anyone should be drinking that much soda at a time. I find it annoying when they just bring me a refill without asking because usually if I'm still thirsty I'd rather have water.0
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I agree with simply ASKING for a refill - and nicely, too.
I'd rather this is how it worked.
On the other hand, it bugs me that I have to ask for water.0 -
saying that though..when i was 17 working at pizza hut us serving staff got £3.20 an hour...and was less than kitchen staff as we got tips... so sometimes serving staff are on less than others...
However i wont tip unless we get better than basic service!0 -
They are apparently non-attentive servers! I've been a waitress, and I would always refill water & soda. If guests were still eating, or have not even started yet, I would just bring out a new one. If they were done eating, i would ask just to make sure.
From a former server, that is a pet peeve of mine. I can understand if they are busy, but if it is slow and my glass is left empty, I am not happy!0 -
For all you people who say they "just don't tip" or leave a few pennies, heads up to this. Servers are charged taxes on their total sales. They have to pay taxes based on 8% of that total (its been a while since I was a server so it could be more now in CA at least). So if you don't tip at least 8%, that server actually loses money waiting on you. SO unless the server is especially rude or bad at their job, please don't screw them like that. As someone who lived off of tips (although I was a damn good server) cheap *kitten* who stiffed me or tipped next to nothing deserved to get throat punched. That is all.....
Wow! We don't have those rules here. You just have to claim the difference of minimum wage minus 2.13/hr, whether you make it or not really.
As far as being a customer, I try to make my visit more enjoyable for my server by having my drink and food orders ready when they arrive (but only giving the food order if they ask). I also let my server know asap that my husband consumes an ungodly amount of sugar and creamer with his coffee, and just bring a bowl of it to save yourself some headache. I order a soda AND a water (if I'm getting soda) or a water for another guest at the table (that they don't want) if I'm feeling thirsty. I know I shouldn't have to, but I know that servers are busy! This keeps me satisfied for awhile.
Also, it's just helpful as a customer to clean up the little paper sugar packets, butter pat containers, etc. Just put them in a dirty cup or bowl. I know it's not your job, but no server wants to reach all over you to pick up stray pieces of paper or even dirty dishes. It takes all of five seconds to tidy up between courses.0 -
For all you people who say they "just don't tip" or leave a few pennies, heads up to this. Servers are charged taxes on their total sales. They have to pay taxes based on 8% of that total (its been a while since I was a server so it could be more now in CA at least). So if you don't tip at least 8%, that server actually loses money waiting on you. SO unless the server is especially rude or bad at their job, please don't screw them like that. As someone who lived off of tips (although I was a damn good server) cheap *kitten* who stiffed me or tipped next to nothing deserved to get throat punched. That is all.....
Wow! We don't have those rules here. You just have to claim the difference of minimum wage minus 2.13/hr, whether you make it or not really.
As far as being a customer, I try to make my visit more enjoyable for my server by having my drink and food orders ready when they arrive (but only giving the food order if they ask). I also let my server know asap that my husband consumes an ungodly amount of sugar and creamer with his coffee, and just bring a bowl of it to save yourself some headache. I order a soda AND a water (if I'm getting soda) or a water for another guest at the table (that they don't want) if I'm feeling thirsty. I know I shouldn't have to, but I know that servers are busy! This keeps me satisfied for awhile.
Also, it's just helpful as a customer to clean up the little paper sugar packets, butter pat containers, etc. Just put them in a dirty cup or bowl. I know it's not your job, but no server wants to reach all over you to pick up stray pieces of paper or even dirty dishes. It takes all of five seconds to tidy up between courses.
love it! i still stack all the dishes at the end, scrape any left overs into the top plate etc! you cant get out of waitressing habits!0 -
You know, you could politely ask...servers are people too, they aren't psychic. the average person doesn't want more then 1-2 refills. Don't sit there and get mad when the server doesn't fill you up, just be politely vocal about your wishes and I am sure you would be accommodated. Servers get paid 2.83 an hour and they work their butt off to depend on the generosity of others. I was a waitress for 4 years during college, and it is people like you that made me angry. If I've refilled your drink 3-5 times, and you're still unhappy ...then you tip me 1.99-3.99 ...you aren't worth my time. Sorry, but servers are only nice to those who tip them. it's like any other job. You wouldn't be happy if your boss cut your pay because you didn't refill his coffee enough times....it works the same way with servers. Just ask for what you want, be nice and they'll be nice to you, take in account all their service, not just your refills, and then if all goes well tip either 5 dollars for anything under 25 dollars, or 20% for anything over 25 dollars. That's the right thing to do.0
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Refills and tips , what is this madness?0
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Because you don't need it.0
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I don't drink soda, but my husband does. He never has a problem getting refills. More often than not, they're bringing out another one when he hasn't even finished the current one.
Helpful tip: Try talking to your waiter/waitress straight away and tell them how you would like your refills handled. Easy peasy.0 -
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Talk about first world f***ing problems.0 -
Imagine if your pay was docked 15% every time you forgot to call someone back or sent an email 10 minutes late at work. That wouldn't happen. Servers are the only people constantly judged for their work with payment as their consequence, and most of them work their *kitten* off.
If you go looking for reasons to not pay a tip, you'll definitely find some because servers are people and people make mistakes. But you have to be understanding that they are doing the best they can.
And most people don't drink 5-10 glasses of soda in one sitting. That is totally excessive.0 -
It is a service industry good service=good tips. I didnt say it was an easy service industry job but it's still that persons job to serve and hopefully meet the needs of the customers.0
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Imagine if your pay was docked 15% every time you forgot to call someone back or sent an email 10 minutes late at work. That wouldn't happen.
Both those are inexcusable and a 15% pay decrease seems reasonable to make one be more efficient.0 -
I have a question for customers: can you not see that I'm running my butt off serving 6 to 8 other tables? That I'm seating people at the door, helping people at the register, making soups, making salads, and I just can't do it all at once? You drank your soda in three minutes? That sucks, do you want me to just sit here and watch your table non-stop? I do the best I can, and I'm serving 25 customers at a time in my cheap restaurant where we're understaffed, so thanks for shorting my tip because I'm not superwoman.
not to be cruel, but
i'm out of the house, spending hard earned money on something i could easily make at home. the problems of other people are not of my concern. all i know is i am here, and i am thirsty. i'll drink my refillable drink in whatever time period that suits my needs, tyvm.0 -
Americans are very odd
We usually have to pay for extra drinks in restaurants
Yeah. I won't go to places that don't have free refills. Exception being shopping mall restaurants, because the rent there is 2-3x more expensive. Usually its the super cheap/dirty hole in the wall places that charge for refills around here.
Cost for a refill of a soda is pennies to the restaurant. So.
I usually have wine in a restaurant, clearly my idea of a restaurant is different to yours
you drink wine at every breakfast, lunch and dinner?
Do you drink soda with breakfast lunch and dinner? Here in Australia the only free refills you get are of water and thank god for that too0 -
For all you people who say they "just don't tip" or leave a few pennies, heads up to this. Servers are charged taxes on their total sales. They have to pay taxes based on 8% of that total (its been a while since I was a server so it could be more now in CA at least). So if you don't tip at least 8%, that server actually loses money waiting on you. SO unless the server is especially rude or bad at their job, please don't screw them like that. As someone who lived off of tips (although I was a damn good server) cheap *kitten* who stiffed me or tipped next to nothing deserved to get throat punched. That is all.....
This doesn't apply in the UK, nor in other countries in Europe I've lived in so far (Greece, France, Holland & Germany).
So yeah... I don't tip. They get minimum wage just like the rest of us.
Well then I guess you are entitled to being cheap :drinker:
We don't tip here in Australia either unless the service is really awesome, it's not customary and our service staff are much better paid. Having said that when I travel I always tip according to local custom0 -
Weirdos. Just give your staff a wage already.0
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Is it wrong that I think this thread is very funny!
Customer is all "I don't care how busy you are, this is my money, and I'm not tipping much if I'm not happy"
Server is all "I can't believe you didn't leave me 20% even though you weren't happy with your experience"
Customer is all "I just got a refill, and drank it in 2 minutes...it's been 3 minutes since then...why isn't my glass full"
Server is all "I got 8 tables and have to make my rounds, it takes me at least 5+ minutes to get back to you"
Both sides claim great wrongs have been done to them.0 -
Many years ago I was a server. I was always on top of refills, I think partly because I hated waiting for my diet coke to get refilled. But give me a rude customer, they can sit forever and if I did bring them a refill after the were grumpy, I would oh so drop the tip of a dirty towel in it, smile and say enjoy. Be nice to your server, or dine at fast food places. Yes, you can get really bad service. If so, don't tip. TIPS... To insure prompt service0
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Many years ago I was a server. I was always on top of refills, I think partly because I hated waiting for my diet coke to get refilled. But give me a rude customer, they can sit forever and if I did bring them a refill after the were grumpy, I would oh so drop the tip of a dirty towel in it, smile and say enjoy. Be nice to your server, or dine at fast food places. Yes, you can get really bad service. If so, don't tip. TIPS... To insure prompt service
Yea...that's a pretty crappy thing to do to someone. If someone is rude, sorry, that doesn't give you a green light to introduce potentially damaging materials/bacteria etc.. into their meal.
You should honestly be ashamed of yourself for ever doing something like that. It's not cool when people are rude, but you should never put their health at risk because of it.0
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