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  • takyrica
    takyrica Posts: 1
    Could be birthcontrol....
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    why did you assume I was talking to you. I was talking about her dad who is heavy saying she isn't eating enough.

    your calculation is wrong. I don't have a particularly clear answer either, but the calculator isn't for people with obese BMI's (not trying to be an *kitten*, its just what the BMI scale says.)

    I wasn't insulting you or anyone in the eat more camp. honest. so you can relax :)

    Okay, the Mifflin St Jeor formula is supposed to be better for those who have higher fat %. And with that calculator we get:

    For Moderately active:
    you need 2638 Calories/day to maintain your weight
    you need 2138 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week
    you need 1638 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week

    For Lightly Active:
    you need 2340 Calories/day to maintain your weight
    you need 1840 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week
    you need 1340 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week

    Since MFP also uses Mifflin St Jeor, I will assume she chose "sedentary" here and that is why she is set to 1200 cals.

    Yes, calculators are estimates. But since she says she really does measure everything she eats, then perhaps 1200 is truly not enough, and that paired with her lack of sleep is causing the lack of results.
  • A_Warrior_Princess
    A_Warrior_Princess Posts: 344 Member
    Hi I was 240 at my heaviest and I am also 5'3 I just started out walking two miles per day and started drinking 120 ounces of water per day and eating more veggies and fruits, for me this worked. I think you need to eat more food and hopefully you can make good choices that work best for you. I wish you the best of luck and feel free to add me as a friend if you would like. Good luck!!!
  • mslh84
    mslh84 Posts: 180
    The OP said she gained 5 lbs in 2 months.

    So - OP, are you taking body part and total body fat % measurements at least every 2 weeks? You need to be doing that and also measure all your food out in grams and log it. You really cannot keep and honest food diary in your head (the way you said you keep track of your intake).

    If you are already measuring your body comp and you have not increased LBM and the 5 lb gain was fat, then you need to have a metabolic panel done.

    I don't exactly have the equipment to be measuring my body fat. I don't measure in grams, I measure in oz. But also when I went from jeans feeling comfortable to feeling like I might die in them, yeah no ty lol
  • JenCatwalk
    JenCatwalk Posts: 285 Member
    I agree that 1200 cals at 220lbs isn't enough. I'm at 170lbs now (from 237) and I eat just under 2000 a day and exercise roughly 7-8 hours a week.
    I would also suggest seeing a doctor. To see absolutely NO results in 2 months is beyond odd.. Maybe you have a problem with your thyroid... Hyperthyroidism can cause insomnia and in roughly 10% of cases can be the cause of weight gain rather than the expected weight loss.

    Try upping your cals slowly (about 100 cals a week) until you're eating at least your BMR. Keep up the exercise. See your doctor.

    I've tried to eat around 2000 or not much above that, and I always end up feeling bloated or like it's way too much food honestly.

    Try eating more calorie dense food. Also, your stomach tends to shrink when undereating, so increase your calories slowly, if you choose to do so.

    I just really don't like the idea of eating 2000+ calories, that makes me feel really uncomfortable.

    Eating tons of calories used to make me uncomfortable to, but in the long run it makes sense that my body NEEDS tons of calories to properly fuel itself and get all the nutrients it needs. Plus personally for me its just nice to beable to eat a ton. I used to eat 1200 calories to, but then made the decision to up it because its healthier. I upped my calories 70 every 2 weeks untill I got where I wanted it to be. And while my weight has stayed the same for awhile, I'm losing inches and my muscles are popping out more. Ultimately, 1200 calories isnt enough and just causes your body to hold on to fat for dear life and muscles breaking down rather then building, so just keep that in mind.

    Oh and I'm 5'4" eating 1820-1900 calories a day at the moment.
  • MommaSari
    MommaSari Posts: 22 Member
    This isn't meant to be rude, but I feel like you are making a lot of excuses for those that are trying to help you.

    However, here is my suggestion:

    See a nutritionalist and a personal trainer to get your ACCURATE daily calorie allowance and change ups in exercise. Calories and INCREDIBLY important and MFP calories are a baseline that do not work for everything.
  • mslh84
    mslh84 Posts: 180
    why did you assume I was talking to you. I was talking about her dad who is heavy saying she isn't eating enough.

    your calculation is wrong. I don't have a particularly clear answer either, but the calculator isn't for people with obese BMI's (not trying to be an *kitten*, its just what the BMI scale says.)

    I wasn't insulting you or anyone in the eat more camp. honest. so you can relax :)

    Okay, the Mifflin St Jeor formula is supposed to be better for those who have higher fat %. And with that calculator we get:

    For Moderately active:
    you need 2638 Calories/day to maintain your weight
    you need 2138 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week
    you need 1638 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week

    For Lightly Active:
    you need 2340 Calories/day to maintain your weight
    you need 1840 Calories/day to lose 1 lb per week
    you need 1340 Calories/day to lose 2 lb per week

    Since MFP also uses Mifflin St Jeor, I will assume she chose "sedentary" here and that is why she is set to 1200 cals.

    Yes, calculators are estimates. But since she says she really does measure everything she eats, then perhaps 1200 is truly not enough, and that paired with her lack of sleep is causing the lack of results.

    My setting shows for lightly active.
  • Lbf321
    Lbf321 Posts: 81 Member
    I'm 5'2 and eat 1900 cals and I'm losing 1lb. per week, hope this makes you feel better about eating more.
  • mslh84
    mslh84 Posts: 180
    This isn't meant to be rude, but I feel like you are making a lot of excuses for those that are trying to help you.

    However, here is my suggestion:

    See a nutritionalist and a personal trainer to get your ACCURATE daily calorie allowance and change ups in exercise. Calories and INCREDIBLY important and MFP calories are a baseline that do not work for everything.

    Honestly I'm not trying to be rude either, but I'm not making excuses, I"m just responding accordingly and answering any questions people ask me. I may try the upping my calorie intake, but not to 2,000, that seems drastic in my opinion. Seeing a personal trainer isn't in my budge, i'm not rich enough for that, and nutrition specialist isn't in my budget either.

    I do research online on what's packed with what vitamins minerals, proteins etc...so I'm not totally blind sighted.

    It's nice to see suggestions, and if anybody may have the same problem as I have.
  • TigressPat
    TigressPat Posts: 722
    i don't think it's possible to accurately log 2 months worth of food in your head.
    If you could accurately recall two months of figures and calculations in your mind, you could be working for NASA and would be able to afford a trainer.
    I also don't think it's possible for anyone here to help you if you do not log, refuse to log, refuse to open your diary, won't see a trainer, and have not seen a doctor, there are just too may variables.

    you might be eating too much, you might be eating too little, you might have a medical issue, you might be a special snowflake, you might be a troll.

    I'm sorry for your non-loss.
  • mslh84
    mslh84 Posts: 180
    i don't think it's possible to accurately log 2 months worth of food in your head.
    If you could accurately recall two months of figures and calculations in your mind, you could be working for NASA and would be able to afford a trainer.
    I also don't think it's possible for anyone here to help you if you do not log, refuse to log, refuse to open your diary, won't see a trainer, and have not seen a doctor, there are just too may variables.

    you might be eating too much, you might be eating too little, you might have a medical issue, you might be a special snowflake, you might be a troll.

    I'm sorry for your non-loss.

    Okay...I didn't say I recorded 2 months worth in my head lol. Are you willing to give me the extra cash to see a trainer? Otherwise it's not a refusal to see one, it's a lack of FUNDS. Personal trainers in my area cost anywhere from $50-100 a session, depending if you get one with a certification or an actual degree.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    This isn't meant to be rude, but I feel like you are making a lot of excuses for those that are trying to help you.

    However, here is my suggestion:

    See a nutritionalist and a personal trainer to get your ACCURATE daily calorie allowance and change ups in exercise. Calories and INCREDIBLY important and MFP calories are a baseline that do not work for everything.

    Honestly I'm not trying to be rude either, but I'm not making excuses, I"m just responding accordingly and answering any questions people ask me. I may try the upping my calorie intake, but not to 2,000, that seems drastic in my opinion. Seeing a personal trainer isn't in my budge, i'm not rich enough for that, and nutrition specialist isn't in my budget either.

    I do research online on what's packed with what vitamins minerals, proteins etc...so I'm not totally blind sighted.

    It's nice to see suggestions, and if anybody may have the same problem as I have.

    It's entirely possible to achieve your goal without a trainer or a nutritionist. Most are talking out of their *kitten* anyway.

    I noticed that you mentioned that you haven't been consistently logging. Honestly, this has been the key to my own success. Measuring food might be a good option for you to pursue. I personally do not make a good habit of it myself, but it will help you with accuracy. Try logging and measuring your food accurately for at least a month, and if you still aren't seeing changes, then you might start looking at your diet. MFP has a reports feature that allows you to look at your overall consumption of different macro and micronutrients. In my own experience, a lack of potassium is just as likely to cause water retention as excess sodium. Also, cutting out your unsaturated fats can cause an increase in cortisol and grehlin. Both are problematic hormones for weight loss.
  • TigressPat
    TigressPat Posts: 722
    i don't think it's possible to accurately log 2 months worth of food in your head.
    If you could accurately recall two months of figures and calculations in your mind, you could be working for NASA and would be able to afford a trainer.
    I also don't think it's possible for anyone here to help you if you do not log, refuse to log, refuse to open your diary, won't see a trainer, and have not seen a doctor, there are just too may variables.

    you might be eating too much, you might be eating too little, you might have a medical issue, you might be a special snowflake, you might be a troll.

    I'm sorry for your non-loss.

    Okay...I didn't say I recorded 2 months worth in my head lol. Are you willing to give me the extra cash to see a trainer? Otherwise it's not a refusal to see one, it's a lack of FUNDS. Personal trainers in my area cost anywhere from $50-100 a session, depending if you get one with a certification or an actual degree.

    one or two sessions with a GOOD trainer are sometimes worth his/her weight in gold.
    no one said you should see one regularly, it's obviously not something everyone can afford, but consider saving up for a session if you are serious about answering your questions.
  • nataosw
    nataosw Posts: 3
    I agree with those that suggest working with your doc. Try to find one that will get to the bottom of your insomnia issues. I struggled with insomnia for years and during that time put on a lot of weight. You might consider requesting a full hormonal panel and also check your vitamin levels. I was not able to lose until I started getting 8 or more hours of sleep, learning to do this was a huge lifestyle change for me. In my case the underlying issues are PCOS and IGF-1 (growth hormone) deficiency. You might have something going on that is preventing you from sleeping and losing weight.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    I agree with those that suggest working with your doc. Try to find one that will get to the bottom of your insomnia issues. I struggled with insomnia for years and during that time put on a lot of weight. You might consider requesting a full hormonal panel and also check your vitamin levels. I was not able to lose until I started getting 8 or more hours of sleep, learning to do this was a huge lifestyle change for me. In my case the underlying issues are PCOS and IGF-1 (growth hormone) deficiency. You might have something going on that is preventing you from sleeping and losing weight.

    ^^^^^ the voice of reason from someone who had a similar experience

    / the end.
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,658 Member
    I have no answers, but my heart goes out to you.

    I have walked a mile 5 days a week for a couple of weeks. Cut back on how much I am eating and have been eating healthy. Drinking 70 ounces of water a day and nothing. I can't imagine 2 months.

    I drink at least 64 oz of water just during my workouts. I'm just at a loss really.

    You need to be at a deficit and you cannot control that unless you start recording everything.

    It is surprising just how much you can go over when you are not recording your food and drink, even if you think it is only a few hundred, it can turn out to be much much more than that.

    Exercise alone will not cause weightloss, it has to be incorporated within your eating plan too.
  • Maikana2
    Maikana2 Posts: 13 Member
    Another vote for seeing a doctor. I had terrible experience with weight gain, no appetite, bloating, lack of energy, difficulty sleeping. I went to my doc and he ran a bunch of tests and discovered slow thyroid. Once my condition was treated, I lost a lot of pounds, now I am almost at healthy BMI and signed up here in hopes to get back to my pre-pregnancy weight. But my point is that it sounds like you have a medical condition which is preventing you from losing the extra weight, whether it is thyroid, PCOS or something else. For your BMI, eating below 2,000 calories should not make you gain weight, you should be losing some. Now, if you eat the right amount of calories and eat good foods, you can lose more efficiently, but it seems that your case is more complicated.
  • LongIsland27itl
    LongIsland27itl Posts: 365 Member
    What does moderately good mean? If you're on a diet you should be hitting your calories and not going over, at all, otherwise expect to see less than stellar results

    Btw, you don't need to do abs all those times per week, doing abs doesn't make your abs show, losing weight does. All you should be concentrating on for now while working out is constantly keeping your heart rate up (over 150 for 30-60min, 5x week)
  • rachseby
    rachseby Posts: 285 Member
    How long did it take you?
  • mslh84
    mslh84 Posts: 180
    What does moderately good mean? If you're on a diet you should be hitting your calories and not going over, at all, otherwise expect to see less than stellar results

    Btw, you don't need to do abs all those times per week, doing abs doesn't make your abs show, losing weight does. All you should be concentrating on for now while working out is constantly keeping your heart rate up (over 150 for 30-60min, 5x week)

    The abs workout I do is 2 days a week and around 30-35 mins. That is because it's broken up over 3 days and I do it twice a week which doesn't seem unreasonable.
  • nbell120
    nbell120 Posts: 17 Member
    If you're doing strength training you won't lose weight you'll actually gain weight from muscle mass, muscle weighs more than fat. You should start measuring your sucess by inches not pounds.
  • geekette411
    geekette411 Posts: 154 Member
    I decided to close it because some days I forgot to write down or record what I eat. I'm 5'3, I was at around 215 ish, and gained 5 lbs some how now at 220...my ultimate goal is 130 ish, my mini goal is 175 right now. I'm at a min of 1200 without exercise with is usually like 1500 or 1600, I WAS working out with 30 mins of eleptical every day,

    day 1-arms
    day 2-abs
    day 3-legs
    day 4-rest
    day 5-arms
    day 2-abs
    day 3-legs

    I even stopped taking whey thinking that might be the problem and it wasn't. I bought a nutriblast and started doing at least one smoothie a day, that's not helpful either.

    We are very similar. I an 5' 4", started at 207, and my goal is 125. I have insomnia. My cals are also 1200 and I eat back my exercise burns.

    But, I have lost 23 lbs in 7 weeks. I measure everything. I estimate high for stuff I'm not sure about, like restaurant food, and estimate low for exercise burns. I drink 12 glasses of water daily, at least.

    Measure everything you eat and try to eat healthy.

    Good luck!
  • mrsjones2point0
    mrsjones2point0 Posts: 332 Member
    Ask your doctor to do a Cortisol test (I would see a naturopath for it). It's a saliva test (be warned you have to collect spit in to a vial several times during the day)

    I had one done, and they found that my cortisol levels were spiking at 2 am causing not only insomnia, but also effecting stress levels and weight loss.
  • cristynfaye
    cristynfaye Posts: 88 Member
    I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm doing everything right, eating right, working out right, sleeping enough, drinking enough water, etc., and I haven't seen any progress. A couple of years ago I lost about 30 lbs, and I have recently gained back 15-20 of it, so I'm trying to lose it again. I know I can do it, and I'm doing pretty much what I did before, with no results. I've had my thyroid checked at least twice, and it comes back as normal. I have no idea what to tell you, other than keep trying, see a doctor/nutritionist, and just don't give up.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm doing everything right, eating right, working out right, sleeping enough, drinking enough water, etc., and I haven't seen any progress. A couple of years ago I lost about 30 lbs, and I have recently gained back 15-20 of it, so I'm trying to lose it again. I know I can do it, and I'm doing pretty much what I did before, with no results. I've had my thyroid checked at least twice, and it comes back as normal. I have no idea what to tell you, other than keep trying, see a doctor/nutritionist, and just don't give up.

    your in a boat, but its not the one you think it is. its got big holes in it, logging and intake holes. those are big holes.

    if you arn't logging your food properly (you are hardly logging at all) which seems like you may do about once a week, how could you know that your intake was "right".

    secondly, when you do log what looks like an entire day, you don't seem to make it over 1050cals. this is really not good.

    and third, with what would seem to be quite a low intake, you are doing a good amount of exercise, which is good, but you are not eating back any of your calories. with such a low intake, you should be eating back at least half to 2/3 of those extra calories. by doing this you are dropping your net calories way below 1000, which is very bad for you. make no mistake about that.

    so irrespective of weightloss, you are not doing everything right. some of the things you are doing wrong are key to your health and key to tracking your food. thats important information.

    you should see a dietician, and post your weight / height / age here.

    :drinker: