Iced Tea

Can I count it as water?
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  • lablueluna
    lablueluna Posts: 52
    I would say if it's herbal, yes. Otherwise it's a diuretic, like coffee. I think it's better for you than coffee but it's still not as hydrating as herbal tea or water.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Yes, count it. Caffeine is not a diuretic unless you consume 500 - 800mg. That's a lot of tea and even then, you've consumed so much water at that point, the effects are negligible.
  • Cp731
    Cp731 Posts: 3,195 Member
    No. is this a serious thread? Especially if its Caffienated

    You believe in calorie deficits. What makes a water deficit so hard to swallow?

    Your body is mostly water (7/10ths). You lose nearly 4 ltrs daily through exhalation, perpiration, getting rid of bodily wastes, etc - that's on an average day. Sooooo, if you lose 4 ltrs and take in 1 ltr - Voila! It's a water deficit!

    Caffeine IS a diuretic - period (I'm not a fat cat who's gonna make $ off you). Believing that caffeinated drinks count the same as water is pure wishful thinking.

    Put these facts together and what pops out? You NEED to drink/eat/consume about 4 ltrs of water everyday to keep your heart and brain and bowels and skin, etc hydrated properly. Most people are constantly somewhat dehydrated.
  • jzammetti
    jzammetti Posts: 1,956 Member
    Yes, count it. Caffeine is not a diuretic unless you consume 500 - 800mg. That's a lot of tea and even then, you've consumed so much water at that point, the effects are negligible.

    Can you point me to where you got those numbers? I thought the opposite and would like to see evidence to the contrary.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Yes, count it. Caffeine is not a diuretic unless you consume 500 - 800mg. That's a lot of tea and even then, you've consumed so much water at that point, the effects are negligible.

    Can you point me to where you got those numbers? I thought the opposite and would like to see evidence to the contrary.

    Mayo Clinic:

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    No. is this a serious thread? Especially if its Caffienated

    You believe in calorie deficits. What makes a water deficit so hard to swallow?

    Your body is mostly water (7/10ths). You lose nearly 4 ltrs daily through exhalation, perpiration, getting rid of bodily wastes, etc - that's on an average day. Sooooo, if you lose 4 ltrs and take in 1 ltr - Voila! It's a water deficit!

    Caffeine IS a diuretic - period (I'm not a fat cat who's gonna make $ off you). Believing that caffeinated drinks count the same as water is pure wishful thinking.

    Put these facts together and what pops out? You NEED to drink/eat/consume about 4 ltrs of water everyday to keep your heart and brain and bowels and skin, etc hydrated properly. Most people are constantly somewhat dehydrated.

    I like facts too. I posted some.
  • PinkNinjaLaura
    PinkNinjaLaura Posts: 3,202 Member
    A few years back Weight Watchers started counting caffeinated beverages toward your water total too. As I recall the reason was a study that showed that for people who were used to consuming caffeine, it was not as dehydrating as it would be for someone who did not drink caffeine previously. Basically you can build up a tolerance.
  • HealthWoke0ish
    HealthWoke0ish Posts: 2,078 Member
    I like facts too. I posted some.

    I like you. :)

    But yeah, I've read those number 500-800 somewhere else too. I count coffee/tea/etc as water whenever I drink 'em (not very often).
  • KristiCee67
    KristiCee67 Posts: 71 Member
    No. is this a serious thread? Especially if its Caffienated

    You believe in calorie deficits. What makes a water deficit so hard to swallow?

    Your body is mostly water (7/10ths). You lose nearly 4 ltrs daily through exhalation, perpiration, getting rid of bodily wastes, etc - that's on an average day. Sooooo, if you lose 4 ltrs and take in 1 ltr - Voila! It's a water deficit!

    Caffeine IS a diuretic - period (I'm not a fat cat who's gonna make $ off you). Believing that caffeinated drinks count the same as water is pure wishful thinking.

    Put these facts together and what pops out? You NEED to drink/eat/consume about 4 ltrs of water everyday to keep your heart and brain and bowels and skin, etc hydrated properly. Most people are constantly somewhat dehydrated.

    Wow...aren't you warm and welcoming. YES, it's a serious thread. I had a question and asked it. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
  • KristiCee67
    KristiCee67 Posts: 71 Member
    Thank you to everyone who posted his or her thoughts....at least the ones who did it without being snarky. :drinker:
  • Markguns
    Markguns Posts: 554 Member
    Of course you can it's mostly water... Look at it this way, if you drank the water and ate the tea leaves, would it discount the water? No... Oh and if you drank tea and nothing else would you get dehydrated and shrivel up, all you " it's a diuretic people"... No. :bigsmile:
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Can you clarify what you mean by "iced tea"? there are so many variations.
  • SteveJWatson
    SteveJWatson Posts: 1,225 Member
    I know it isn't peer reviewed, but rather a 'digest' of some peer-reviewed studies, but I did read in the New Scientist that if you regularly consume tea, your body can and does adapt to the caffiene, so the effects are negligable. Coffee, apparently has more caffiene than most bodies can adapt to, so is still mildly diuretic, even if you are used to it.


    Just a point to whoever started talking about how our bodies are made up of x % water etc......most of our food is mostly water too....

    Edited to add - you can easily tell if you are dehydrated by the coulor of your urine.
  • lablueluna
    lablueluna Posts: 52
    Tea IS a diuretic and will dehydrate you instead of hydrating you. Everyone is titled to their own opinion and it's apparent that Science or whatever authorities of nutrition and health people are referring to don't necessarily agree on one thought regarding this. I still think it's better to drink water that is not caffeinated for the purposes of hydration.

    I have to say that I'm pretty much done with the snark with the pedantic tone conveyed in many of the responses in the community forums. We all aren't going to agree but there is a polite way to disagree and an immature, impolite way to disagree.

    I hope your question got answered, Kristi, despite the snark.
  • lablueluna
    lablueluna Posts: 52
    No. is this a serious thread? Especially if its Caffienated

    You believe in calorie deficits. What makes a water deficit so hard to swallow?

    Your body is mostly water (7/10ths). You lose nearly 4 ltrs daily through exhalation, perpiration, getting rid of bodily wastes, etc - that's on an average day. Sooooo, if you lose 4 ltrs and take in 1 ltr - Voila! It's a water deficit!

    Caffeine IS a diuretic - period (I'm not a fat cat who's gonna make $ off you). Believing that caffeinated drinks count the same as water is pure wishful thinking.

    Put these facts together and what pops out? You NEED to drink/eat/consume about 4 ltrs of water everyday to keep your heart and brain and bowels and skin, etc hydrated properly. Most people are constantly somewhat dehydrated.

    Wow...aren't you warm and welcoming. YES, it's a serious thread. I had a question and asked it. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

    AGREED! If you can't be polite on the forums, then don't bother posting.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    No. is this a serious thread? Especially if its Caffienated
    <snip>

    Caffeine IS a diuretic - period (I'm not a fat cat who's gonna make $ off you). Believing that caffeinated drinks count the same as water is pure wishful thinking.
    Wrong.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21450118

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/06/08/water-eight-glasses-myth.html
  • tequila09
    tequila09 Posts: 764 Member
    Do whatever you want.

    Personally I would only count water as water..
  • bonniecarbs
    bonniecarbs Posts: 446 Member
    KRISTI, my doctor said the same thing that LEPERT said. I count mine as water.
  • ValerieMartini2Olives
    ValerieMartini2Olives Posts: 3,024 Member
    Yes, as long as you're not loading it with oodles of sugar.
  • DalekBrittany
    DalekBrittany Posts: 1,748 Member
    Hi :) Log it, because I'm assuming it has calories. If you're worried about one glass counting towards it, don't worry about it. If all you drink is iced tea, then you've probably consumed enough for it to be a diuretic. And you should probably drink some good ol' water :)
  • bdoringer
    bdoringer Posts: 3 Member
    I like to keep it simple. Below is what works for me.

    1. Plain water (tap/bottled) counts as water. I have around 12 cups a day.

    2. Everything else does not. If it contains calories, it counts as food and is entered in my diary accordingly.

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    And let's be honest: fussing around whether to count this or that as water or not won't bring you any closer to your goal. Eat healthy, drink enough and exercise. That's about it.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Can I count it as water?

    Yes, it does not dehydrate you. It hydrates you. As for being a diuretic, well so is water. It is exactly why we need to drink plenty of fluids.
  • cyndilie
    cyndilie Posts: 52
    That is great information. Thanks so much for passing along those links. I am a big tea drinker, especially now that Dr Pepper's are no longer on my shopping list.
  • cyndilie
    cyndilie Posts: 52
    Also, for the persons that mentioned counting the tea calories, Red Diamond Unsweet Tea has zero (0) calories.
  • DalekBrittany
    DalekBrittany Posts: 1,748 Member
    That is great information. Thanks so much for passing along those links. I am a big tea drinker, especially now that Dr Pepper's are no longer on my shopping list.

    Dr. Pepper is my weakness!
  • summersbest
    summersbest Posts: 194 Member
    I was involved with two medically supervised weight loss programs and both stated that any decaffeinated drink counts towards water consumption. I do count nestea zero as the amount of caffeine is negligable.
  • holliebevineau
    holliebevineau Posts: 441 Member
    I drink about 3 to 5 cups of coffee at work. I can count that as water? Seriously? That just sounds wrong but it would be nice if i could. Then I can drink a whole pot and not feel bad. Is that ok to do? I mean all the caffeine.
  • bdoringer
    bdoringer Posts: 3 Member
    I drink about 3 to 5 cups of coffee at work. I can count that as water? Seriously? That just sounds wrong but it would be nice if i could. Then I can drink a whole pot and not feel bad. Is that ok to do? I mean all the caffeine.

    Caffeine consumption and water intake are two different pairs of shoes.

    As mentioned already in this discussion: some people count coffee towards their water intake. Others don't. I personally don't, but that's up to you.

    Caffeine consumption on the other hand is a very different story. Generally, consuming more than 500mg of caffeine per day is said to be unhealthy. Given the fact that a regular cup of coffee (black) contains around 80-100mg I would advise against drinking too much of it. A pot a day seems a bit much to me.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    Yes, as long as you're not loading it with oodles of sugar.

    This!^

    I count is as water ... as long as it's not loaded with sugar (real or fake).

    For those of you who say it's a diuretic...... perhaps we could agree to count 16 oz. of tea as 8 oz. of water? It's certainly not 0 oz.
  • jolt28
    jolt28 Posts: 218 Member
    Well Crystal Light Tea better count as water or I'm in trouble!