Taking in 2000 calories...netting 1000

I've been taking in around 2000 calories per day. I also run about 6 miles every other day (I'm not going to hurt myself, I'm an experienced runner). My six mile burns about 1000 calories, and so I'm only netting the 1000. I eat a lot of fruits, vegetables, and lean meats. I do carb load a bit for when I run, but overall, I eat when I'm hungry, and stop eating when I'm satisfied.

Is my daily net of 1000 calories sustainable? I also lift to maintain my muscle mass on my non-cardio days.

I'll be happy to eat some cheese or yogurt every night to drive up my caloric intake, but if possible, I'd be happy to stick with my daily thousand. I've heard mixed responses on this up to this point. A lot of people saying that, as long as I get my vitamins, I'm good.

What say you all?

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  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Netting 1000 calories as a male...I'm going to go with "no".

    Assuming you're actually burning 1000 calories, that is extremely low. I try to net close to 2000 on a cut for example. At maintenance it would be more like 2500 or more.
  • redstuff
    redstuff Posts: 44 Member
    check out the eat more to weigh less group - they've got some good calculations to help make this decision
  • Kiyalynn
    Kiyalynn Posts: 128 Member
    I for one, don't believe in letting my net be under 1200. Not that I really believe in 'starvation', I just think its unhealthy.
    I have been playing around with the BMR calculators, and found that a Woman 5'6" would have to weigh less than 85 lbs to burn less than 1200 calories sleeping all day. As no woman should weigh that much at that height, I think that less than 1200 calories is unsustainable and unhealthy for my body. Honestly, I would grab a glass of fruit juice, Milk, Ice cream or some other treat. To get at least 200 more calories. But then again, this isn't science at all, just what my thoughts are telling me to do. Any day I hit 1000 calories in I go get some treat, just to boost my calories up to net 1200 min.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
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  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    I think your exercise is overestimated by a goot 1/4 to 2/3.

    how are you tracking your burn?
  • l3cupcake
    l3cupcake Posts: 11
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  • l3cupcake
    l3cupcake Posts: 11
    I think your exercise is overestimated by a goot 1/4 to 2/3.

    how are you tracking your burn?

    I use the fitness pal. I maintain a 9 minute mile over six miles. Burns 997
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    mmm. this is a an issue that have interested me.

    for example my maintenance is around 2100. I've had days where I did 800+cals of exercise (recorded through my fitbit).

    what I find confusing, is if you eat your 2100 cals, which what your body needs at sedentary, is it unhealthy not to eat back the burn / do you need to.

    I can understand if someone is eating like 1400 cals and then not eating back say 600 cals is bad, but what about at maintenance SED TDEE.

    probably you should eat back 1/2 to 2/3. i think the burn is over estimated.



    im not sure if im entirely clear here. maybe someone knows what im on about :P
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    I think your exercise is overestimated by a goot 1/4 to 2/3.

    how are you tracking your burn?

    I use the fitness pal. I maintain a 9 minute mile over six miles. Burns 997

    my fitness pal overestimates. you should probably eat back 1/2 to 2/3 of your exercise cals if its calculated that way, which means you could eat another 500-700 cals depending on how you feel.

    if you didn't feel like it on the day, dont eat it back, but you should try. and come on, who doesn't want to have 500-700 cals that you can eat whatever you want!

    you should eat back at least half tho.

    all of dis is just advice.... do whatever the %$^& you wanna do! lol hodge twins.



    EDIT: you could have a slice of pecan pie, kfc doubledown burger, big ol plate of potato wedges, hell, even some ice cream. you could eat anything you want man!
  • jeffrw1234
    jeffrw1234 Posts: 8 Member
    I think your exercise is overestimated by a goot 1/4 to 2/3.

    how are you tracking your burn?

    I use the fitness pal. I maintain a 9 minute mile over six miles. Burns 997

    I would highly suggest a heart rate monitor that tracks calories. I have found that MFP is generous on calories burned during workouts (cardio machines at the gym do as well). It is a worthwhile investment. You might not be netting as few calories as you think.
  • ShannonMpls
    ShannonMpls Posts: 1,936 Member
    I think your exercise is overestimated by a goot 1/4 to 2/3.

    how are you tracking your burn?

    I use the fitness pal. I maintain a 9 minute mile over six miles. Burns 997

    I would highly suggest a heart rate monitor that tracks calories. I have found that MFP is generous on calories burned during workouts (cardio machines at the gym do as well). It is a worthwhile investment. You might not be netting as few calories as you think.

    For another perspective, I have often run using my HRM then input my speed into MFP for an estimate out of curiosity. they come very close. MFP is quite accurate for running - there are long-standing and validated equations for calculating calories burned for running based on distance, speed, and body weight.

    A good post on this is here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/exercise-calories-sometimes-the-cardio-machines-are-more-accurate-404739
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    in short, yes. eat back your cals from between 1/2-2/3 most of the time.
  • helpfit101
    helpfit101 Posts: 347 Member
    I would also guess the 1000 calories run to be an overestimation. It's probably closer to 800.

    Also if you're an experienced runner your body becomes more efficient at running and burns even less.
  • Crazy4Healthy
    Crazy4Healthy Posts: 626 Member
    I say eat!! As a man, 1,000 is way too low. And burning 1,000 sounds about right for 6 miles. I burn about 260-300 on my 3 mile runs (using a HRM) and I'm only 5'3". I'm netting 1,500-1,600 on maintenance. You want to fuel your body if you plan to continue running and weight training. You will also see a lot better muscle retention (assuming you are trying to lose) if you get more calories and a good portion of protein. As for the vitamins, it's very unlikely you are getting them only netting 1,000.
  • pspetralia
    pspetralia Posts: 963 Member
    I would guess MFP is grossly over estimating your burn. I would guess you actually burn about 600 or maybe less since you have been doing it or awhile. Either way, you should always net 1200 at t he bare minimum!!
  • goodtimezzzz
    goodtimezzzz Posts: 640 Member
    wht are you up 2?? are u trying to get ripped maintain gain ..???
  • freebirdjones
    freebirdjones Posts: 236 Member
    I would take another photo of your face and ask again. The side by shot makes the after small & its a bit dark, but you will be able to tell by your hair texture, cheeks & eyes if you are too low in weight. Me myself I would say if you are scared to up the cals everyday maybe even try to take a bit more on lift days when you start lifting. I am 5'5 and 120 lbs and eat more than you and I am not gaining. I will not tell you to keep doing what your doing because I believe it is unhealthy. You can add in a few more cals just by having 1/4 cup of nuts, a yogurt, apple w/ peanut butter, etc
  • freebirdjones
    freebirdjones Posts: 236 Member
    Also just to add eating too little can be hard on your heart as well. So cutting out bad foods was great, but running like crazy & eating low cal can lead to issues as well. & you should make your diary public so we can give you better advice. don't listen to anyone who says eating this low is okay for a male.
  • 257_Lag
    257_Lag Posts: 1,249 Member
    in short, yes. eat back your cals from between 1/2-2/3 most of the time.

    Agreed
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    A lot of people saying that, as long as I get my vitamins, I'm good.

    this here is total bullsh!t.
  • Lifting_Knitter
    Lifting_Knitter Posts: 1,025 Member
    A lot of people saying that, as long as I get my vitamins, I'm good.

    this here is total bullsh!t.

    I agree with is being bull.
  • WVmom24
    WVmom24 Posts: 266 Member
    I used to walk 6mi/day and only take in about 1,200 calories and I lost weight just fine without any decline in my health. As long as you're taking in enough nutrients so that you're not malnourished. I'm not on board with this silly idea that if you are overweight and net less than 1,200 cals a day that the human body is stupid enough to break down muscle instead of excess fat. The human body is the most high tech machine there ever was...it's not going to damage its precious muscle when there is more fat on it than necessary. The only thing you need to worry about is muscle damage from inadequate nutrient intake. Not that I'm a fitness expert or nutritionist or anything (although I am a nurse), but I think the common sense long-story-short answer is: make sure you get your nutrients and eat a sensible amount of food daily, and your body will respond just fine.
  • JEB1974
    JEB1974 Posts: 14
    I also think the 1000 cal burned is probably a bit of an over estimation. I hear 100 cal per mile quite a lot but according to my hrm I only burn about 40 cals per mile. I guess that's one of the disadvantages of being small.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    I used to walk 6mi/day and only take in about 1,200 calories and I lost weight just fine without any decline in my health. As long as you're taking in enough nutrients so that you're not malnourished. I'm not on board with this silly idea that if you are overweight and net less than 1,200 cals a day that the human body is stupid enough to break down muscle instead of excess fat. The human body is the most high tech machine there ever was...it's not going to damage its precious muscle when there is more fat on it than necessary. The only thing you need to worry about is muscle damage from inadequate nutrient intake. Not that I'm a fitness expert or nutritionist or anything (although I am a nurse), but I think the common sense long-story-short answer is: make sure you get your nutrients and eat a sensible amount of food daily, and your body will respond just fine.

    how long did have you been following this regiment?
  • ThickMcRunFast
    ThickMcRunFast Posts: 22,511 Member
    I think your exercise is overestimated by a goot 1/4 to 2/3.

    how are you tracking your burn?

    I use the fitness pal. I maintain a 9 minute mile over six miles. Burns 997

    I also found that MFP way overestimates my running vs. my HRM. A good rule of thumb is about 100 calories per mile. I can't imagine you are actually burning 1000 calories on that run
  • freebirdjones
    freebirdjones Posts: 236 Member
    I used to walk 6mi/day and only take in about 1,200 calories and I lost weight just fine without any decline in my health. As long as you're taking in enough nutrients so that you're not malnourished. I'm not on board with this silly idea that if you are overweight and net less than 1,200 cals a day that the human body is stupid enough to break down muscle instead of excess fat. The human body is the most high tech machine there ever was...it's not going to damage its precious muscle when there is more fat on it than necessary. The only thing you need to worry about is muscle damage from inadequate nutrient intake. Not that I'm a fitness expert or nutritionist or anything (although I am a nurse), but I think the common sense long-story-short answer is: make sure you get your nutrients and eat a sensible amount of food daily, and your body will respond just fine.

    This is crazy. Did you look at his photo. I don't believe looking at the picture and not having a public diary that as a nurse you should be suggesting anything other than eating his BMR. You don't know how much water he takes in, his blood pressure, nothing. Just because someone gets nutrients it doesn't say anything about health. And our bodies are not made amazingly, if you watch the first 45 mins of Loyd Pye "Everything You Know Is Wrong" he proves how our feet are not even made to walk perfectly. Our bodies were a rush job and that's why we have so many knee problems, hip problems, from running and walking, etc. So it's not going to eat all fat if it knows it gets good nutrients from muscle as well. I've seen different break downs but its like 75% fat 25% muscle. And even if it's didn't go into your muscle stores, why would you ever suggest 1000 cals as sustainable and looking at his photo he is at goal weight or close. He needs to add in more cals and do some lifting and HITT. He's already cut, go check out his profile and suggest he make his journal public. :)
    sorry if I am offending I just cant believe I heard this from a nurse.
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    I also think the 1000 cal burned is probably a bit of an over estimation. I hear 100 cal per mile quite a lot but according to my hrm I only burn about 40 cals per mile. I guess that's one of the disadvantages of being small.
    its relative to the weight of the person.
    I burn 100 calories a mile
  • gfroniewski
    gfroniewski Posts: 168
    Honestly, I have wondered this too because I don't net quite enough every day either. You have to understand, though, you are underestimating what you are eating while overestimating your burn on a regular basis. Most people do, including me. As long as you are getting the results you want from your calorie intake i.e. fat loss (for me) then you should be fine.

    I am glad someone posted with a more measured approach of eating back 1/2-2/3 of exercise calories. I am fairly active, so sometimes it is difficult to meet my net on cardio days. Now that I have my Fitbit I am getting a much better estimate of my TDEE as well, so this approach seems viable!

    EDIT: I took a look at your photo; you look a little gaunt, brother. Try to net 1500 at least, especially with that much cardio! Then again, it's a small photo and I have poor vision.