Is Milk Bad For You?

I would go through 5+ GALLONS of milk a MONTH when I was growing up. Just me. I loved the hell out of milk. While I was never an athletic superstar, I also never had any physical issues whatsoever. I still don't, and occasionally enjoy some milk. However, in recent history milk has begun to settle badly with my stomach, so I avoid it a lot more.

Honestly, I think everything in life is individual. Milk is no exception, so if you like it and it doesn't bother you and your doctor hasn't advised against it for you for any reason, then get your milk' on, girl!

I only have goat milk (yogurt) on occasion and never drink straight cow milk...of course I can't help it if I have frozen yogurt/ice cream. In my opinion (and logically), cow milk is for baby cows-- not humans.

And goat milk is not for baby goats?

Humans are omnivores. We have a remarkable ability to thrive on massive variety of food sources. Drink your milk and ignore the hyped up claims from the tin foil hat crowd.

If you are lactose or casein intolerant, I would certainly agree that it's bad for you.

Otherwise, while it's certainly not necessary, there's no reason not to enjoy it if you like it and it fits in your macros.

i drink 4 - 5 glasses a day

I don't like the taste of milk so I don't drink it, but I don't think it's bad for you if you do enjoy it.

Almond has a 3 month shelf life too right? I know soy milk does. I like that because it doesn't force me to drink the whole thing in a few days.

Almond has a 3 month shelf life too right? I know soy milk does. I like that because it doesn't force me to drink the whole thing in a few days.

Soy milk only lasts a week from the day you open it

Almond has a 3 month shelf life too right? I know soy milk does. I like that because it doesn't force me to drink the whole thing in a few days.

Soy milk only lasts a week from the day you open it

I know that's what it says on the box but I've never had a problem drinking 3 month old Soy milk as long as it's kept in the fridge.

Both Harvard and Columbia have published findings on dairy and its ill effects, some as grave as contributing to cancer. Countless doctors advise against consuming dairy (including my father's doctor). Your bones depend more on vitamin D from what I understand.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

I can't find the study from Columbia right now online, but check out the Medical journals for more. There is so much out there saying it's not healthy and the dairy industry is dumping millions to continue to make sure the govt includes dairy in the food pyramid. The same agency also makes pus cells acceptable in the milk.

I started to discover this information myself about a decade ago and have since been consuming no dairy, eggs or meat. My blood work, one as recent as last week, always came back perfect.

Don't forget to give up ALL meats including all kinds of fish. There is research that shows lots of toxic stuff like mercury in ocean water that can cause cancer too says the link below. Just eat grass to be safe.

http://www.anoasisofhealing.com/cancer-and-diet-foods-that-cause-cancer/#axzz2VgQfNLFq

I only have goat milk (yogurt) on occasion and never drink straight cow milk...of course I can't help it if I have frozen yogurt/ice cream. In my opinion (and logically), cow milk is for baby cows-- not humans.

And goat milk is not for baby goats?

Humans are omnivores. We have a remarkable ability to thrive on massive variety of food sources. Drink your milk and ignore the hyped up claims from the tin foil hat crowd.

Sorry, but this made me stop and laugh. Haven't seen a good post like this in a while. :laugh:

Both Harvard and Columbia have published findings on dairy and its ill effects, some as grave as contributing to cancer. Countless doctors advise against consuming dairy (including my father's doctor). Your bones depend more on vitamin D from what I understand.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

I can't find the study from Columbia right now online, but check out the Medical journals for more. There is so much out there saying it's not healthy and the dairy industry is dumping millions to continue to make sure the govt includes dairy in the food pyramid. The same agency also makes pus cells acceptable in the milk.

I started to discover this information myself about a decade ago and have since been consuming no dairy, eggs or meat. My blood work, one as recent as last week, always came back perfect.

That article does not say what you think it says. Read it. This is actually the problem with many of these "reports." Most people don't bother to carefully read them and instead hype up what is said/written and put them forth as evidence for their extreme views. As with anything, you have to look at the entire picture and scare mongering (which is exactly what you are doing) is unhelpful at best.

Some important quotes:

"The study did not find any association between overall milk or dairy product intake and ovarian cancer. "

"A diet high in calcium has been implicated as a probable risk factor for prostate cancer. (17) In a Harvard study of male health professionals, men who drank two or more glasses of milk a day were almost twice as likely to develop advanced prostate cancer as those who didn’t drink milk at all. (18) The association appears to be with calcium itself, rather than with dairy products in general"

And most important, the actual recommendation:

"Adequate, lifelong dietary calcium intake is necessary to reduce the risk of osteoporosis. Consuming adequate calcium and vitamin D and performing regular, weight-bearing exercise are also important to build maximum bone density and strength. After age 30, these factors help slow bone loss, although they cannot completely prevent bone loss due to aging.

Milk and dairy products are a convenient source of calcium for many people. They are also a good source of protein and are fortified with vitamins D and A. At this time, however, the optimal intake of calcium is not clear, nor is the optimal source or sources of calcium. As noted earlier, the National Academy of Sciences currently recommends that people ages 19 to 50 consume 1,000 milligrams of calcium per day, and that those age 50 or over get 1,200 milligrams per day. Reaching 1,200 milligrams per day would usually require drinking two to three glasses of milk per day—or taking calcium supplements—over and above an overall healthy diet.

However, these recommendations are based on very short-term studies, and are likely to be higher than what people really need. Currently, there’s no good evidence that consuming more than one serving of milk per day in addition to a reasonable diet (which typically provides about 300 milligrams of calcium per day from nondairy sources) will reduce fracture risk. Because of unresolved concerns about the risk of ovarian and prostate cancer, it may be prudent to avoid higher intakes of dairy products."

Both Harvard and Columbia have published findings on dairy and its ill effects, some as grave as contributing to cancer. Countless doctors advise against consuming dairy (including my father's doctor). Your bones depend more on vitamin D from what I understand.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

I can't find the study from Columbia right now online, but check out the Medical journals for more. There is so much out there saying it's not healthy and the dairy industry is dumping millions to continue to make sure the govt includes dairy in the food pyramid. The same agency also makes pus cells acceptable in the milk.

I started to discover this information myself about a decade ago and have since been consuming no dairy, eggs or meat. My blood work, one as recent as last week, always came back perfect.

I read the article u posted, no it does NOT ask you not to take dairy products. in fact, it asked you to take daily products in MODERATION, limiting to 1-2 servings a day, which is totally correct. it did not ask to stop take dairy products n no proven link to cause cancer. ("can " is all postulated and not proven!)

"While calcium and dairy can lower the risk of osteoporosis and colon cancer, high intake can increase the risk of prostate cancer and possibly ovarian cancer."

and it is correct in saying dairy products is not the best source of calcium, and vit D and exercise is equally important for your body to store the calcium in bones!


the article is correct, but ur interpretation of it is probably not.

It was always my understanding Vitamin D worked along side to help the calcium be absorbed by our bodies.

Milk is bad because it comes from cows!! And cows are bad because...science!

I only have goat milk (yogurt) on occasion and never drink straight cow milk...In my opinion (and logically), cow milk is for baby cows-- not humans.

And goat milk is not for baby goats?...

OMG Bwahahahaha! :laugh:

But seriously, OP. If you're only drinking it for the calcium, almond milk has 50% more calcium per serving than dairy. Cow's milk is probably ok for most people to drink if they enjoy it. I don't consume it because my body doesn't tolerate casein (milk protein). I don't miss milk at all, because almond milk is a really good alternative, but I DO miss cheese terribly. :sad:

Same here milk messes me up almond milk all the way