Obesity Poll

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  • yanniejannie
    yanniejannie Posts: 1,090 Member
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    Number 2 times a million.
  • kindasortachewy
    kindasortachewy Posts: 1,084 Member
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    Two
  • Shadowcub
    Shadowcub Posts: 154 Member
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    Well, the first poster should not presume to speak for all Canadians....As most of our healthcare is "free" (or sharing my tax dollars) I do NOT think that people who refuse to take responsibility for their own health should be using up a giant share of what should be used for REAL diseases like cancer and other non-self inflicted issues.....

    Self-inflicted like cancer, heart disease, liver damage, etc. Smoking kills people indirectly. Drinking kills people indirectly. Failing to heed safety warnings (when they're still on the tool, car, whatever) kills. So should all of those people be left to die in the street?

    Or perhaps, just like tax dollars (and private dollars) go towards educating people about the dangers of various other personal choices, maybe they should go towards warning of the dangers related to obesity? Just like tax (and private) dollars go towards helping people quit smoking, treat alcoholism/drug abuse, etc, maybe they should also go towards nutritional counseling, gym memberships, and the like.

    It's cheaper to get someone to stop smoking than it is to treat their lung cancer.
    It's cheaper to get an alcoholic off the booze than to do a liver transplant.
    And it's cheaper to help the obese person lose weight than it is to treat a lifetime of related illnesses.

    And that's true no matter WHERE you live.
  • StarChanger
    StarChanger Posts: 605 Member
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    Heart disease and liver disease are not caused by a virus, bacteria, or parasite either.

    Yes, they are. Viral Hepatitis. Endocarditis. Toxoplasmosis.
  • LexiAtel
    LexiAtel Posts: 228 Member
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    Well, the first poster should not presume to speak for all Canadians....As most of our healthcare is "free" (or sharing my tax dollars) I do NOT think that people who refuse to take responsibility for their own health should be using up a giant share of what should be used for REAL diseases like cancer and other non-self inflicted issues.....

    Self-inflicted like cancer, heart disease, liver damage, etc. Smoking kills people indirectly. Drinking kills people indirectly. Failing to heed safety warnings (when they're still on the tool, car, whatever) kills. So should all of those people be left to die in the street?

    Or perhaps, just like tax dollars (and private dollars) go towards educating people about the dangers of various other personal choices, maybe they should go towards warning of the dangers related to obesity? Just like tax (and private) dollars go towards helping people quit smoking, treat alcoholism/drug abuse, etc, maybe they should also go towards nutritional counseling, gym memberships, and the like.

    It's cheaper to get someone to stop smoking than it is to treat their lung cancer.
    It's cheaper to get an alcoholic off the booze than to do a liver transplant.
    And it's cheaper to help the obese person lose weight than it is to treat a lifetime of related illnesses.

    And that's true no matter WHERE you live.

    You have a VERY good point, and I agree with you. Unfortunately, the Americans are VERY much into prescription drugs, being led to believe that a pill will fix all their issues in life. And I can just see the pharmaceutical companies making a KILLING on "diet pills" in the near future.

    If this labeling was more about education, then yeah, I would agree with this, but with the way our country is, this is about corporate greed, another way to get us to swallow a pill in order to addict us to some other thing we just don't need in our life.
  • lswain1970
    lswain1970 Posts: 58 Member
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    One.


    Jobs that make you sit on your asss for 9 hours a day should help pay for obesity treatment/help.

    i agree for the most part. however it would be just as good if employers with primarily desk job work were required to help with nutritionists and fitness related assistance (gym memberships,etc.). There is a part of personal responsibility on the individual to offset their sedentary job duties with good nutrition and exercise off hours, however it would be reasonable for employers to support that. I am fortunate to work for a company that does reimburse for gym memberships and provides access to nutritionists, etc. but not all do.
  • hhbsd
    hhbsd Posts: 6
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    because if you make the argument that they should have to pay because you are obese, then by that logic, they should have a say in what foods you eat and how much...

    This!

    And to add to that, your evaluation and merit increases should be based, in part, on how well you perform at dieting and exercise.

    At some point, people have to take responsibility for themselves. Not blame others or walking around asking "who is going to take care of me..."
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
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    The thing about it that gets me is, we are going to create another disability class. If it is a disease, then it isn't my fault and if I am morbidly obese and can't work, then I qualify for disability......send me my fat check. Also, accommodations will have to be made for obese people. Being an American, I can see where the ADA will have to be revamped to include obesity as a disability. And oh yeah, Southwest Airlines, not only can you not charge an obese person for an extra seat, now you have to make accommodations like wider seat.....because it's a disease......they are disabled......You can't discriminate. This is a very slippery slope.
  • kathers01
    kathers01 Posts: 164 Member
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    #2 for sure. Definitely not a disease.
  • KimberlyJoA
    KimberlyJoA Posts: 1
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    Is there any recipes on this site? Or certain foods I can eat? I would not like to second guess it?
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    ahmasd Posts: 3
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  • cmcbee90
    cmcbee90 Posts: 10 Member
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    I am going to go with the first option, but I do believe that the person should have to show that they are making an effort to lose weight the healthy way before any drastic treatments are covered. Obesity IS a disease, but often it's a self-imposed disease. Our culture has made it easy for people to become obese, and stay obese!

    I also think it would be lovely if my health insurance covered a certain amount toward a gym membership.... but that's a pipe dream! :laugh:

    My thoughts exactly. My father in law is now all excited to go get weight loss surgery, but he's never even tried losing weight the right way. He sits on his butt all day and eats AWFUL food. He's never even tried, but now he thinks he can go have surgery and fix it for free...

    But I love the insurance helping to cover gym membership suggestion!!! That would be nice :)
  • TheDoctorDana
    TheDoctorDana Posts: 595 Member
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    3
  • dsjohndrow
    dsjohndrow Posts: 1,820 Member
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    I think obese people should force themselves to be on MFP.
  • spaghetti93
    spaghetti93 Posts: 140 Member
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    i dont really think obesity is a disease, but maybe the result of diseased thinking and lifestyles.
  • BR3ANDA
    BR3ANDA Posts: 622 Member
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    One. But only to a certain degree, such as, providing free gym memberships, covering visits to a certified nutritionist or weight loss specialist, and these can only stay covered by showing improvement in your weight or health. On another note, educating the public on what they eat has got to become a norm for every business, even grocery stores. My daughter just went through basic training for the Army, at the cafeteria they labeled everything they served with green, yellow, or red stickers. Green for low calories options, yellow for mid calorie options, and red for high calorie options. They would recommend to choose the calorie option best suited to your physical needs that day, in other words, the more you move the more cals you can have. Its such a simple process with a very visual tool. Sure, labeling the calorie content gets the attention of some, but, can you imagine walking into a fast food restaurant and seeing all the items on the lighted up menu above written in green, yellow, or red lettering?
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,021 Member
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    The implications for the diet industry to treat people with a disease without individual medical supervision would be huge.

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