vegan views, what are yours?

We were born to eat meat, hence the k9 teeth.

And if we had decided to be vegans way back in history, our brains would not have developed into what they are today.

Though it is sad to think about living animals being killed in assembly lines to feed us.

didn't you post this in a different form so why the same thread 2 different places?

yes because I have found in the past that I can get more of a variety of views.

confused the hell out of me ,lol

I'm a vegan, and as long as somebody respects my choices, I will respect theirs. I don't care if you eat meat. I really, really don't. I choose not to for a variety of reasons, but it's still my choice and I don't expect everybody to have the same opinions and make the same choices as me.

Vegans have this negative representation of being rude and pushing their opinions on everybody and OF COURSE there ARE people like that, but I think it's a very small percentage of vegans. They're just the ones that get attention because they're the loud ones. Unless somebody were to eat a meal with me and get into a discussion about food with me, they usually won't even know that I am a vegan because like, ...it's just food. It's just what I choose to eat. I don't talk about it all that often. So like, it's whatever. Y'know?

This is my view too. I am vegan and I believe everyone has to make their own food choices. My boyfriend, who I live with, eats meat and that's his choice. Most important is respect of other peoples decisions even if they go against your own.

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what.”
I find it very confusing to see why you would respect a person for eating meat, as a vegan yourself, seeing as respect is something that should be earned, not something that is there by default. "I don't enjoy blowing myself up and killing children, but I respect terrorists who choose to do so." No, you don't, because it goes against what you believe, and that's alright.

Oh I'll eat a cow right now if you read everything I wrote instead of stopping at "rape a couple of women" and going "HA! She compared it to rape! This is my cue! Awww yes!"

I didn't compare it to rape. I reminded the kind sir what the good old natural life of cavemen also includes besides their tasty, protein-rich, brain-enlarging diet of medium rare, well-seasoned steaks.

Um.. yeh.. but.. um... yeah, you kinda compared eating meat to raping women. You really did. I read the whole thing... and you're adorable as hell... but... um... yeah... ya kinda did.

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

This.

I think this site sums up my feelings about a whole lot of vegans pretty well:

http://www.exvegans.com/


This is their mission statement:


Our Mission.

If you’re no longer vegan, you’re going on the list.
The spirits of the billions murdered have risen to deliver: The Vegan Sellout List – an online directory of those who have regressed from moral consistency to moral depravity.

The Vegan Sellout List is our answer to the epidemic of vegan sellouts – those who are aware of the suffering caused by meat, dairy, egg, fur, and leather production, yet choose to look away while the animals suffer.

Selling out veganism is a trend on the upswing, bringing with it swarms of haughty, nose-turning carnists uttering nonsensical buzzwords re: veganism being “privileged”, or “trendy”, critiquing themselves into ethical degeneracy and paleo-terrorism.

To those who have regressed from veganism, yet display symptoms of a soul not fully blackened to it’s core, we ask you to remind yourself why you were what you were

I believe everyone is entitled to their own views but I really can't stand people who force their views down your throat. This obviously doesn't just apply to vegans, but to people doing Paleo, to avid meat eaters, to pescetarians, to raw foodists etc.

But honestly, we provide animals with free housing and (some with) free healthcare, so surely they can donate a few eggs or some milk or honey, right? I see the point of view of vegetarians, not wanting to kill for their food, but I think that in exchange for what we provide animals with, they should return the favour! But obviously, that's my opinion.

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

This is very well said!:)

I'm a vegan.

I choose it for my own reasons. I assume other people choose what they eat for similar reasons.

My only attitude about it isn't about veganism, it is about the health costs to individuals and overhead written to the health care system by the grossly unhealthy diet purveyed by fast food vendors and what is colloquially called the "Standard American Diet". But there are plenty of ways to eat a more healthy diet that don't require plant-based menus.

But for the record, I don't "preach" - I only provide advice when asked. I used to spend alot more time having to "defend" my diet (which I don't bother with any more) whenever anyone found out I'm a vegan, than I see others having to do when it emerges that they eat meat.

So please keep in mind that there are those of us who are not "judgmental" - and please don't judge us! I'm a little tired of all the complaints about vegans. Aggressive morons come in all types.

When it comes to people's ethics and personal tastes, e.g. someone choosing to be vegan because they object morally to eating animals, or the idea of it disgusts them or they simply don't like the taste of animal products, then I'd say each to their own, and of course we should respect each others different beliefs - you don't have to agree with someone's opinion to respect it and their right to hold it.

However it totally does my head in when people try to claim that meat eating in humans is unnatural. Humans would not have even evolved without meat. And the argument about gorillas being vegan does my head in too, because a) gorillas eat insects and b) gorillas have the smallest brain to body size ratio of all the great apes and are also the least intelligent. Chimps, who have the largest brain to body size ratio of non-human apes, eat monkeys. In fact they cooperatively hunt monkeys, which is a very human-like behaviour. Early human ancestors like Australopithecines and Homo habilis probably cooperatively hunted monkey sized animals in a similar fashion to chimps. Homo erectus cooperatively hunted considerably bigger animals and Homo neanderthalensis cooperatively hunted huge, dangerous animals like bison and mammoths. And Homo sapiens invented long range hunting weapons like throwing spears and bows and arrows, to be able to take down big animals without getting injured quite as often as neanderthals did. So humans have a rich history of hunting bigger and bigger animals using progressively more sophisticated weapons, and also a correspondingly increasing brain size first as a result of eating more meat and later as a result of cooking meat (which makes it easier to digest and therefore means you can get more nutrition from it). Animal fat, in particular, is essential for growing a large brain. Modern people can be vegan only because of recent advances in agriculture and the ability to transport food around the world, because otherwise it's really difficult to grow enough high protein plant food to get enough protein, and also the technology to refine plant oils, and no-one can gather enough high protein plant food from the wild to survive, hence the need for humans to eat meat for pretty much the entirety of human history until fairly recently.

You are right. Meeting, interacting and respecting other people's views and beliefs is a great way to live.

This.

Yep.