Livin La Vida Low Carb

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  • ngyoung
    ngyoung Posts: 311 Member
    So I'm recently doomed to eat low carb. I, along with the team of doctors I work with, have done a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates on the body, and how they relate to insulin levels and fat storage.

    Care to enlighten us on your research?

    It is pretty well established that insulin is a fat storing hormone. Our bodies can only use a limited amount of sugar at a time so its job is to reduce blood sugar by pushing it into our fat cells where there is plenty of space for storage. When some people have lived a long time on a diet high in sugar that system gets screwed up and can be very sensitive to even moderate carb intake. Their fat cells also can start to get 'greedy' and don't release the fat when your body asks for it like it should.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    So I'm recently doomed to eat low carb. I, along with the team of doctors I work with, have done a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates on the body, and how they relate to insulin levels and fat storage.

    Care to enlighten us on your research?

    It is pretty well established that insulin is a fat storing hormone. Our bodies can only use a limited amount of sugar at a time so its job is to reduce blood sugar by pushing it into our fat cells where there is plenty of space for storage. When some people have lived a long time on a diet high in sugar that system gets screwed up and can be very sensitive to even moderate carb intake. Their fat cells also can start to get 'greedy' and don't release the fat when your body asks for it like it should.

    So sugar is either oxidized or stored as fat? Nothing else? Might want to do some more research
  • skinnyforcruise2013
    skinnyforcruise2013 Posts: 74
    I just started back today living low carb. I lost well and felt great doing that and I have to do it again. I'm tired of feeling icky from all the carbs. Feel free to add me and we'll compare notes:)
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    So I'm recently doomed to eat low carb. I, along with the team of doctors I work with, have done a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates on the body, and how they relate to insulin levels and fat storage.

    Care to enlighten us on your research?

    It is pretty well established that insulin is a fat storing hormone. Our bodies can only use a limited amount of sugar at a time so its job is to reduce blood sugar by pushing it into our fat cells where there is plenty of space for storage. When some people have lived a long time on a diet high in sugar that system gets screwed up and can be very sensitive to even moderate carb intake. Their fat cells also can start to get 'greedy' and don't release the fat when your body asks for it like it should.

    Here's an interesting read that questions conventional wisdom......

    http://evolvinghealth.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/is-it-time-to-stop-blaming-insulin-for-fat-storage/
  • RoyBeck
    RoyBeck Posts: 947 Member
    Basically the Adkins diet no? Nothing wrong with cutting down on carbs IMO.
  • mrsek09
    mrsek09 Posts: 32

    That chicken recipe sounds awesome I would love to get some more recipes

    Super simple, pound a chicken breast til flat and even, fill with 1 tbs cream cheese mixed with jalapenos to taste (sometimes ill throw in some garlic powder and chipotle powder to taste) wrap the chicken around it, wrap 2 pieces of bacon around the chicken, hold in place with toothpicks. i will toss it on the grill in a disposable pan liner or bake it at 350 until done. the last few minutes of cooking, i will top it with a bit of cheese.
  • ngyoung
    ngyoung Posts: 311 Member
    So I'm recently doomed to eat low carb. I, along with the team of doctors I work with, have done a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates on the body, and how they relate to insulin levels and fat storage.

    Care to enlighten us on your research?

    It is pretty well established that insulin is a fat storing hormone. Our bodies can only use a limited amount of sugar at a time so its job is to reduce blood sugar by pushing it into our fat cells where there is plenty of space for storage. When some people have lived a long time on a diet high in sugar that system gets screwed up and can be very sensitive to even moderate carb intake. Their fat cells also can start to get 'greedy' and don't release the fat when your body asks for it like it should.

    Here's an interesting read that questions conventional wisdom......

    http://evolvinghealth.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/is-it-time-to-stop-blaming-insulin-for-fat-storage/

    I think one of the responses to the article you referenced says it better then I could:

    "Fat storage does not happen without insulin. Period. And fat loss will not happen if circulating insulin levels remain high–no matter how many “calories” (whatever is meant by that) you reduce, or for that matter, how many carbs. Period. How to best reduce circulating insulin levels remains a matter of debate, but there is no doubt that reducing carbohydrate and calories are usually both a part of that process in any studies done up to this point. But even then, this has more to do with fat loss than maintaining a normal healthy weight, which–you are correct in pointing out–is an intake issue."
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Pretty interesting article on carbs ............the conclusion

    "
    Conclusion

    I hope you can see by now that the carbohydrate hypothesis of obesity is not only incorrect on a number of levels, but it may even be backward. The reason why obesity and metabolism researchers don't typically subscribe to this idea is that it is contradicted by a large body of evidence from multiple fields. I understand that people like ideas that "challenge conventional wisdom", but the fact is that obesity is a complex state and it will not be shoehorned into simplistic hypotheses.

    Carbohydrate consumption per se is not behind the obesity epidemic. However, once overweight or obesity is established, carbohydrate restriction can aid fat loss in some people. The mechanism by which this occurs is not totally clear, but there is no evidence that insulin plays a causal role in this process. Carbohydrate restriction spontaneously reduces calorie intake (as does fat restriction to a lesser extent), suggesting the possibility that it alters body fat homeostasis, but there is no compelling evidence that that happens due to a hormonal influence on fat tissue itself. The brain is the primary homeostatic regulator of fat mass, just as it homeostatically regulates blood pressure, breathing rate, and body temperature. This has been suspected since the early brain lesion studies of the 1940s (47) and even before, and the discovery of leptin in 1994 cemented leptin's role as the main player in body fat homeostasis. In some cases, the setpoint around which the body defends these variables can be changed (e.g., hypertension, fever, and obesity). Research is ongoing to understand how this process work"

    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ca/2011/08/carbohydrate-hypothesis-of-obesity.html
  • Jasmine_James
    Jasmine_James Posts: 188 Member
    Stick with it! You'll feel better than ever and have tons of energy once you're past the keto flu stage. In the meantime, make sure you're indulging in some yummy high-fat foods. Have bacon, butter (Kerrygold Irish), cream cheese, juicy meat, creamy dressings.

    I've been doing keto since the beginning of this year (with some scheduled breaks for weddings, vacations, etc.). When I knock myself out of keto, I hate those few days of the flu. I'm experiencing it right now actually -- but once I get to ketosis I always feel amazing!

    I can't see your diary, otherwise I'd offer feedback on that. Feel free to add me if you want to check out my diary. And good luck!
  • kgoodman0108
    kgoodman0108 Posts: 158
    You're going through the "carb flu". It will be gone soon, and you'll feel amazing! Don't give up. :flowerforyou:
  • LauraDotts
    LauraDotts Posts: 732 Member
    By day 5 you will feel fantastic. Drink lots of water. Keep your sodium intake up. If you feel dizzy, drink broth. Keep your fat macro high.
  • cfranklin6353
    cfranklin6353 Posts: 30 Member
    So I'm recently doomed to eat low carb. I, along with the team of doctors I work with, have done a lot of research on the effects of carbohydrates on the body, and how they relate to insulin levels and fat storage.

    Care to enlighten us on your research?

    Absolutely...

    More and more studies are showing that the "Food Pyramid" that was implemented in the 60's and 70's was completely wrong. The body uses carbohydrates much differently that originally thought. The science sounded good on paper: Fat increases cholesterol, and cholesterol causes plaque, plaque leads to atherosclerosis, and that causes heart disease. So naturally, companies began shipping out "low fat" and "nonfat" varieties of their products. When you take the fat out, you also take the flavor. So you have to put the flavor back in! And when you take the fat out of something, you can still call it low-fat if you add.....SUGAR! So, automatically, the low-fat diet becomes a high-carb diet.

    We're now seeing that that is outdated science. The more carbs we eat, the higher the insulin level goes. In turn, you begin storing fat, and you are unable to burn it off. You begin to feel more hungry, because your blood sugar level has dropped off due to the increased insulin. You begin to go into protect mode, retain water (and salt), and to compensate, you liver begins to produce large amounts of cholesterol.

    We have seen this firsthand in our office. We have seen our patients reverse diabetes, high cholesterol, and lose massive amounts of weight. We have found that the Total Cholesterol itself doesn't really give us the information that we need. The HDL and LDL are not so much cholesterol, but they are lipoproteins, and they transport cholesterol from the liver to the places in the body that are needed to form cell membranes and hormones. Obviously, the higher the HDL, the lower the LDL (or at least, that's how it should be). We know now that there are 2 types of LDL, soft and hard, and Triglycerides (the artery-hardening fats) actually come from carbohydrates. They are packaged in the liver, and are actually more predictive of cardiovascular disease than the Total Cholesterol or LDL alone.

    Then there is saturated fat. We've been told forever that it's bad. News flash: There is not one single study that has ever proved any link beteween saturated fat intake and heart disease. We started to believe it back with the food pyramid, and we've believed it ever since! The truth is, Saturated fat may increase the cholesterol slightly, but it also helps to raise the HDL and if it happens to raise the LDL-C (soft, fluffy LDL), it will lower the LDL-P (hard, pellet-like LDL). You can get it in grassfed beef, coconut oil, avacados, etc.

    There's a lot of great reading on the subject. I would recommend "Living Low Carb" by Johnny Bowdens or "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" by Phinney and Volek.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    We're now seeing that that is outdated science. The more carbs we eat, the higher the insulin level goes. In turn, you begin storing fat, and you are unable to burn it off. You begin to feel more hungry, because your blood sugar level has dropped off due to the increased insulin. You begin to go into protect mode, retain water (and salt), and to compensate, you liver begins to produce large amounts of cholesterol.

    So by that logic, the Kitvans should all be obese, yes? Also don't forget protein is highly insulinogenic, yet you don't see low carbers fear monger over protein and insulin
    We have seen this firsthand in our office. We have seen our patients reverse diabetes, high cholesterol, and lose massive amounts of weight. We have found that the Total Cholesterol itself doesn't really give us the information that we need.

    Did they lose weight and improve blood and metabolic markers, due to a caloric deficit or just simply eliminating carbs?
    There's a lot of great reading on the subject. I would recommend "Living Low Carb" by Johnny Bowdens or "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" by Phinney and Volek.

    I have not read Bowdens but have read volek and phinney. If you read the actual studies they've done and pay attention to methodology and results, you might notice something
  • lisamarie2181
    lisamarie2181 Posts: 560 Member
    OP, you need to do what is right for you and what you can sustain.

    I thrive on a low carb diet more than a regular one. I have PCOS and have to stay low carb because that is the only way I lose. Believe me, I have tried to eat in moderation, eat just healthy carbs, no matter what I either stalled or gained. I gained 20lbs back from what I lost last year trying to not have to be low carb, and now I have come to the realization that carbs are just not my friend lol In situations when people have medical issues, calories are not the only thing that matters.

    And all I hear is that is has nothing to do with the carbs, it is that you are eating at a deficit is not true, at least not for me. I am at the same amount of cals I was when I was eating carbs, wasn't losing then, but now since dropping the carbs, the weight is coming off again. There are a lot of people out there with metabolic conditions, and these do make a difference in this equation.

    I follow a Keto approach, the majority of my days I stay 25 net or lower, I still eat a lot of veggies, just green ones with a good amount of fiber - I don't get cravings and have no problem staying on track eating this way. I find I fall off track when I have to be away from home and not able to control my environment. You go to family parties and sometimes there really isn't anything you can eat, so sometimes being prepared can make a huge difference from falling off the wagon.


    Add me if you would like more support! I do alot of cooking, eat the majority of my diet whole foods and cook as much as I can, so if you need some ideas!! Good luck to you!!
  • annette_15
    annette_15 Posts: 1,657 Member
    I'm carb cycling, 3:1 if u wanna look at my diary, ignore the weekend, that was out of the norm lol

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