Palm Oil - Opinions?

Carnivor0us
Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
in Food and Nutrition
I'd like to start eating palm oil - the unrefined red kind - and was wanting to know if anyone has had it, what they thought about it, and how it tasted to them. Would it be something to cook eggs in? Thanks....

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  • javajunco
    javajunco Posts: 81
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?
  • javajunco
    javajunco Posts: 81
    I don't think I've ever had it on it's own. I've been trying to get it out of my diet, but it's in almost everything!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.
  • ostrichagain
    ostrichagain Posts: 271 Member
    I've never had the unrefined red, I have used refined in the past. I have heard the unrefined oil has a really distinct flavor and odor. From what I understand, it's best with things that have a strong flavor of their own.

    Refined palm is pretty boring. Not a favorite.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    I've never had the unrefined red, I have used refined in the past. I have heard the unrefined oil has a really distinct flavor and odor. From what I understand, it's best with things that have a strong flavor of their own.

    Refined palm is pretty boring. Not a favorite.

    Thanks, good to know.
  • MrsSenecal
    MrsSenecal Posts: 312 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    Lol! HIGH FIVE!
  • downsizinghoss
    downsizinghoss Posts: 1,035 Member
    If you must use your palm. Oil can help.
  • dorthymcconnel
    dorthymcconnel Posts: 237 Member
    I haven't used palm oil but a friend of mine uses it regularly. The only other oils she uses is coconut and olive oils. Try the oil and see if you like it. They have a shortening made with it as well. It's a lot healthier than canola or vegetable oils.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    Deforestation is less important than you are. Use as much palm oil as you want. You're excellent.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    Deforestation is less important than you are. Use as much palm oil as you want. You're excellent.

    LOL
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    You know what? I was trying to get info out to the MFP Masses. You know how important they are to the Global Economy.

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Don't know why you are so combative.

    Orangs have been pushed out of their habitat and are endangered. Too bad you don't care about that.

    But, by all means, have a nice stir-fry

    baby-orangutan-600x403.jpg
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    I thought it was a bad oil. It's in everything and I've been trying to avoid it. I'm just curious to know why someone would choose to consume it. What are the benefits?
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    You know what? I was trying to get info out to the MFP Masses. You know how important they are to the Global Economy.

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Don't know why you are so combative.

    Orangs have been pushed out of their habitat and are endangered. Too bad you don't care about that.

    But, by all means, have a nice stir-fry

    baby-orangutan-600x403.jpg

    I DO care about that, that's why I'm getting my oil (maybe - haven't decided yet) from a continent that doesn't have orangutans as a native species.

    Thanks for telling me what I care and do not care about.

    Anyone with a bit of time can find a fair-trade and ethical source for this product. You know that.

    So, have you ever tried the stuff? What's it like?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    You know what? I was trying to get info out to the MFP Masses. You know how important they are to the Global Economy.

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Don't know why you are so combative.

    Orangs have been pushed out of their habitat and are endangered. Too bad you don't care about that.

    But, by all means, have a nice stir-fry

    baby-orangutan-600x403.jpg

    applause.gif?w=460
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    You know what? I was trying to get info out to the MFP Masses. You know how important they are to the Global Economy.

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Don't know why you are so combative.

    Orangs have been pushed out of their habitat and are endangered. Too bad you don't care about that.

    But, by all means, have a nice stir-fry

    baby-orangutan-600x403.jpg

    I DO care about that, that's why I'm getting my oil (maybe - haven't decided yet) from a continent that doesn't have orangutans as a native species.

    Thanks for telling me what I care and do not care about.

    Anyone with a bit of time can find a fair-trade and ethical source for this product. You know that.

    So, have you ever tried the stuff? What's it like?

    You've had the stuff. Don't act all coy and innocent. Anyone in the U.S. has had Palm Oil.

    I looked. I didn't find a sustainable way to produce/sell Palm Oil in Africa.


    GIVE US a name, please - so we will know where to buy it.

    Don't keep deflecting. We are smarter than we look.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    You know what? I was trying to get info out to the MFP Masses. You know how important they are to the Global Economy.

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Don't know why you are so combative.

    Orangs have been pushed out of their habitat and are endangered. Too bad you don't care about that.

    But, by all means, have a nice stir-fry

    baby-orangutan-600x403.jpg

    applause.gif?w=460

    That good, huh?
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Please read this first!

    http://ran.org/sites/default/files/po_factsheet.pdf

    And this

    http://ran.org/tripa-expose

    Rainforest deforestation by palm oil producers is pushing orangutans to extinction.

    Yeah, I know about that. I'm sourcing from a place that doesn't do that. So, have you ever had any palm oil? What's it taste like?

    *cough* Really? Who is "responsibly" producing Palm Oil? I think it would be good for people to know from whom to buy it.

    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    You know what? I was trying to get info out to the MFP Masses. You know how important they are to the Global Economy.

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Don't know why you are so combative.

    Orangs have been pushed out of their habitat and are endangered. Too bad you don't care about that.

    But, by all means, have a nice stir-fry

    baby-orangutan-600x403.jpg

    I DO care about that, that's why I'm getting my oil (maybe - haven't decided yet) from a continent that doesn't have orangutans as a native species.

    Thanks for telling me what I care and do not care about.

    Anyone with a bit of time can find a fair-trade and ethical source for this product. You know that.

    So, have you ever tried the stuff? What's it like?

    You've had the stuff. Don't act all coy and innocent. Anyone in the U.S. has had Palm Oil.

    I looked. I didn't find a sustainable way to produce/sell Palm Oil in Africa.


    GIVE US a name, please - so we will know where to buy it.

    Don't keep deflecting. We are smarter than we look.

    You know what? I'm not going to because there is no such thing as sustainable palm oil in your mind. That's fine.
  • sooz
    sooz Posts: 15 Member
    I know nothing about red palm oil, but I've been using coconut oil and I love it. Also supposed to be a healthy fat and tolerates high temperatures in cooking better than olive oil. Also no worries about it going rancid like olive oil.
  • kaikea
    kaikea Posts: 27 Member


    I'm not here to justify my decision. I asked a question, and if you don't want to answer it, then that's fine. I've done my research and have found places that are ethically acceptable to me. I'm not going to respond to posts with this attitude anymore.

    Edit: Sourcing from West African operations. No f*cking orangutans there.

    I actually live in West Africa. I have to move out of my treehouse on Wednesday. :(
  • ostrichagain
    ostrichagain Posts: 271 Member

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Google "Orangutan safe palm oil".

    http://www.spectrumorganics.com/?id=269
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member

    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.

    Google "Orangutan safe palm oil".

    http://www.spectrumorganics.com/?id=269

    It's not JUST Orangs. That just happened to be the animal-du-jour.

    Give me sustainable sources. NOT Google.

    I'll wait.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
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  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    Ang108.....


    as long as the message gets out.:flowerforyou: :smile:
  • ostrichagain
    ostrichagain Posts: 271 Member
    Then it's not about the Orangutans? Is there any form of farming that involves trees and animals that you think is ethical?

    What is a sustainable source in your mind?

    We can do this with shade grown coffee and any other commodity that is grown in sub-tropical regions.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.


    I am surprised that there are sustainable palm oil sources in West Africa, because there were none about ten years ago.
    I have always avoided palm oil, because the planting of many square kilometers of palm for palm oil purposes is done by destroying precious virgin rain forest . That by itself is bad enough, especially when it comes to a product that has really nothing special about it once its refined. The fact that Orangutans are driven to extinction through loss of habitat in Indonesia is just another very sad fact of the whole issue. I think sourcing palm oil from areas where there are no Orangutans imo is not such a good idea, because with each acre of virgin rain forest that is destroyed animals are destroyed also.....and that is one way how extinction starts. And all that for a product that can easily be substituted with other oils of equal or better quality.

    Unrefined palm oil has a very peculiar and distinct flavor which overshadows the flavor of many foods ( the only thing that I know that is stronger than palm oil flavor is really spicy curry ). It is not awful, but distinct. It also stains everything a very bright orangey red and it is next to impossible to get the stains out of clothing.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Could you please site source for your alleged S.African produced Palm Oil? Because, I'm sure people here are socially conscious and want to do the right thing.


    I am surprised that there are sustainable palm oil sources in West Africa, because there were none about ten years ago.
    I have always avoided palm oil, because the planting of many square kilometers of palm for palm oil purposes is done by destroying precious virgin rain forest . That by itself is bad enough, especially when it comes to a product that has really nothing special about it once its refined. The fact that Orangutans are driven to extinction through loss of habitat in Indonesia is just another very sad fact of the whole issue. I think sourcing palm oil from areas where there are no Orangutans imo is not such a good idea, because with each acre of virgin rain forest that is destroyed animals are destroyed also.....and that is one way how extinction starts. And all that for a product that can easily be substituted with other oils of equal or better quality.

    Unrefined palm oil has a very peculiar and distinct flavor which overshadows the flavor of many foods ( the only thing that I know that is stronger than palm oil flavor is really spicy curry ). It is not awful, but distinct. It also stains everything a very bright orangey red and it is next to impossible to get the stains out of clothing.

    Thank you for your feedback.

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