living on supplements....

nikilis
nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
in Food and Nutrition
can you do it?

can you eat a nutritionally devoid diet, and just use supplements or fibre, protein and multi vitamins and still be healthy in the long term?

for example a 2350cal maintenance diet eating only nutella and pancakes and balance it with 2 protein shakes, a good snort of Metamucil and a multivitamin?

pancakes
Calories 1,400
Total Fat 33 g
Saturated 5 g
Total Carbs 285 g
no other vitamins or minerals

nutella
Calories 500
Sodium 40 mg
Total Fat 30 g
Saturated 10 g
Total Carbs 55 g
Dietary Fiber 5 g
Sugars 55 g
Protein 5 g
Calcium 10%
Iron 10%

protein
Calories 280
Total Fat 6g
Total Carbs 10 g
Protein 70 g

multivitamin
AMOUNT PER SERVING% DAILY VALUE
Vitamin A 3,500 IU (29% as Beta-Carotene)70%
Vitamin C 90 mg150%
Vitamin D 600 IU150%
Vitamin E 45 IU150%
Vitamin K 60 mcg75%
Thiamin 1.2 mg80%
Riboflavin 1.3 mg76%
Niacin 16 mg80%
Vitamin B6 2 mg100%
Folic Acid 200 mcg50%
Vitamin B12 6 mcg100%
Biotin 40 mcg13%
Pantothenic Acid 15 mg150%
Calcium 210 mg21%
Iron 8 mg44%
Phosphorus 20 mg2%
Iodine 150 mcg100%
Magnesium 100 mg25%
Zinc 11 mg73%
Selenium 100 mcg143%
Copper 0.9 mg45%
Manganese 2.3 mg115%
Chromium 35 mcg29%
Molybdenum 50 mcg67%
Chloride 72 mg2%
Potassium 80 mg2%
Boron 150 mcgN/A
Nickel 5 mcgN/A
Silicon 2 mgN/A
Tin 10 mcgN/A
Vanadium 10 mcgN/A
Lycopene 600 mcgN/A

can you call that healthy? I love pancakes and nutella.

discuss and if it makes it easier, rate the person above you on the Kelvin scale.
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  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    bump In to see where this goes, sorry I can't provide any input...will be thinking about it tho.

    has a good snort of Metamucil doesn't care about macros...
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  • neplainjanepas
    neplainjanepas Posts: 37 Member
    I had a friend once who only ate tuna, oranges and protein shakes along with vitamins. Im not sure if he is still doing this, but he had a very low immune system and little body fat.
    When he was sick, he had a hard time delivering nutrients to his body.

    The protein and milti-vim is great. But don't forget important things like green vegetables (have at least a cup of veggies per day).
    I think the the pancake nutella thing is tasty but long term isn't going to reap great benefits.
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    ERMAHGERD NERTERL ERND PERNCERKS !!!!:flowerforyou: :love: :flowerforyou:
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    id say you are a 3000 on the kelvin scale.

    I also think that no one will answer the question cause its like that if a tree falls in the forest question....

    just makes you go oooooooo.... and stare off into space.

    Personally, I think its possible to get everything you need from artificial sources, which would take like 300 ish cals.

    does that mean after that you can just eat nutritionally devoid food and be healthy....

    somehow this feels like that whole divide by zero thing.......
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    Can you do it? Yes. Will you be a normal human being while doing it? Probably not.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    bump In to see where this goes, sorry I can't provide any input...will be thinking about it tho.

    has a good snort of Metamucil doesn't care about macros...
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    hahaha. nailed it.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    Can you do it? Yes. Will you be a normal human being while doing it? Probably not.

    if you worked at ihop, you might be able to maintain some normality... :drinker:
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    Can you do it? Yes. Will you be a normal human being while doing it? Probably not.

    if you worked at ihop, you might be able to maintain some normality... :drinker:

    Haha true. But I just meant that you would probably rage at everyone and everything and just hate your life. I tried doing this shake diet once. I still use the product in my morning shake, but I can't sustain a healthy lifestyle on 2 shakes a day with one meal where I can supposedly eat anything and not workout and lose weight. This company is basically encouraging people to cheat and not teaching people how to eat healthy, just replace junk with 2 shakes and you're golden. Your idea seems like it could go wrong for the same reasons - people might survive on that for a while but then you get bored and you need variety and you've learned nothing about eating healthy and sustaining this kind of lifestyle in the long term.

    Pancakes and nutella sounds super yummy. But maybe for a week hehe
  • Silver_Star
    Silver_Star Posts: 1,351 Member
    well, if they were presented this way...

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    mmmmmm...

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  • 6spdeg
    6spdeg Posts: 394 Member
    thought people on this site believed its that simple... calories in calories out?
  • conniedj
    conniedj Posts: 470 Member
    well, if they were presented this way...

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    mmmmmm...

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    ^^^ This looks waaaaay better than nutella and pancakes. Yurm.
  • roxylola
    roxylola Posts: 540 Member
    Whether it is technically possible or not I would point out that when my grandmother died of late stage bowel cancer her doctor told us that what you are eating now will be affecting your body in 20 years time. In particular in relation to your bowels and the likelihood of cancer.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    thought people on this site believed its that simple... calories in calories out?

    I don't follow.... what?
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Why?! Why would you even want to?!?!? When there is so much deliciously awesome food is such a wide variety out there. I'd choose real food over a manufactured supplement anyday!!
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Whether it is technically possible or not I would point out that when my grandmother died of late stage bowel cancer her doctor told us that what you are eating now will be affecting your body in 20 years time. In particular in relation to your bowels and the likelihood of cancer.

    ^^^ Great point!!
  • DancingDreams1234
    DancingDreams1234 Posts: 165
    Food is meant to nourish your body, but unfortunately as a society we have become to think that food is all about tasting good. I hate these topics so much, get your damn nutrition from food.
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    Apparently my last comment doesn't make sense so edited for supplements vs food Gif...

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  • 6spdeg
    6spdeg Posts: 394 Member
    thought people on this site believed its that simple... calories in calories out?

    I don't follow.... what?

    people mention all day.. doesnt matter where your calories come from.. its just that calories..
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
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  • Silver_Star
    Silver_Star Posts: 1,351 Member
    thought people on this site believed its that simple... calories in calories out?

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  • anemoneprose
    anemoneprose Posts: 1,805 Member
    don't astronauts basically do this?
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    thought people on this site believed its that simple... calories in calories out?

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    Best facepalm ever!!!
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
    don't astronauts basically do this?

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  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    thought people on this site believed its that simple... calories in calories out?

    I don't follow.... what?

    people mention all day.. doesnt matter where your calories come from.. its just that calories..

    yeh but from a nutritional stand point...................................
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    Food is meant to nourish your body, but unfortunately as a society we have become to think that food is all about tasting good. I hate these topics so much, get your damn nutrition from food.

    i think you are missing the point. let me show you my point. its pretty large and could put out your eye. now back to the point.

    the question isn't should, its can. scientifically. can your body be nourished by supplements rather than food sources <---- its not a moral question about a wider issue pertaining to what you think is wrong with society. no need to get all emotional and start hating things.

    there are people who eat nutritionally devoid diets, and take supplements to try to make it a balanced diet. I actually want to know definitively, through some sort of study / group of studies if this is actually possible or not.

    I've had situations where people have a totally crap diet, literally crackers, cereal bars, no vegetables, no meat really except on pizza and no fruit, but they use supplements. I want to know for sure weather that is harmful to a human being.

    but I guess

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    Nutrition for sure, calories could be problematic.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    Nutrition for sure, calories could be problematic.

    wait..... run that by me one more time....
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    Nutrition for sure, calories could be problematic.

    wait..... run that by me one more time....
    I forgot your eating pancakes and nutella, your golden.
  • singlefemalelawyer
    singlefemalelawyer Posts: 382 Member
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  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    bump (lol at cat)

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