Nuts and seeds are for birds and squirrels (not humans)

gmallan
gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
in Food and Nutrition
I am aware that this will probably be a contraversial post because I know how much people on here love their nuts. This article was written by a nutritionist that comes highly recommended by someone highly qualified in the fitness industry that I greatly respect and who believes in a very balanced and sensible (and science-based) approach to nutrition and fitness. So have a read and tell me what you think.

http://www.nutritionbynature.com.au/1/post/2012/11/nuts-seeds-are-for-birds-and-squirrels-not-humans.html
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  • aquarabbit
    aquarabbit Posts: 1,622 Member
    YOU WILL NOT TAKE MY SUNFLOWER SEEDS!
  • HollisGrant
    HollisGrant Posts: 2,022 Member
    I must be a bird then. I dry roast/toast sesame seeds and use them as delicious, healthy seasoning on my food instead of salt. Nuts are great, too. *Flying away now*
  • LaurenAOK
    LaurenAOK Posts: 2,475 Member
    Meh. If I paid attention to all of these articles, I would stop eating, because EVERYTHING has been "proven" to be unhealthy in some way.

    I support everything in moderation, always have, always will. I don't see a problem with nuts in the diet as long as that's not the only thing you're eating!

    (And I did actually read the article... interesting stuff, but again, I take all of these things with a grain of salt).
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Well crap first it was eggs, then it was fat, next it was carbohydrates no breads, no pasta, no fruit, after that came meat, then it was sugar, after that they put the smack down on milk, cursed bacon, burned caffeine, harassed pasteurization, dissed potatoes, mutilated corn, insulted lard, then it was soda, after that diet soda, now its nuts and seeds. Holy hell what can we eat?
  • lieselLalor
    lieselLalor Posts: 169 Member
    Well crap first it was eggs, then it was fat, next it was carbohydrates no breads, no pasta, no fruit, after that came meat, then it was sugar, after that they put the smack down on milk, cursed bacon, burned caffeine, harassed pasteurization, dissed potatoes, mutilated corn, insulted lard, then it was soda, after that diet soda, now its nuts and seeds. Holy hell what can we eat?

    Well said!
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    *rolling eyes*

    Grabbing a handful of almonds. :drinker:
  • SuperSexyDork
    SuperSexyDork Posts: 1,669 Member
    Well crap first it was eggs, then it was fat, next it was carbohydrates no breads, no pasta, no fruit, after that came meat, then it was sugar, after that they put the smack down on milk, cursed bacon, burned caffeine, harassed pasteurization, dissed potatoes, mutilated corn, insulted lard, then it was soda, after that diet soda, now its nuts and seeds. Holy hell what can we eat?

    Apparently all of us are supposed to become Breatharians.
  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
    I knew that this would get these type of reactions on here but I'm actually really interested in whether people who have taken the time to read the article agree or disagree with what is being said and on what grounds (hopefully scientific). I was a big nut eater too but am re-considering.

    You'll notice if you read the article that she doesn't say you can't eat nuts at all ever but recommends cutting down consumption quite a bit from what a lot of people on here would eat and also treating them first.
  • SkepticallyFit
    SkepticallyFit Posts: 71
    Okay, well, I guess I'm a bird and a squirrel. I consider it an accomplishment to be two animals at once.
  • AliciaNineteen72
    AliciaNineteen72 Posts: 76
    Meh. If I paid attention to all of these articles, I would stop eating, because EVERYTHING has been "proven" to be unhealthy in some way.

    I support everything in moderation, always have, always will. I don't see a problem with nuts in the diet as long as that's not the only thing you're eating!

    (And I did actually read the article... interesting stuff, but again, I take all of these things with a grain of salt).

    I agree! Everything in moderation is the only way for me. There is NOTHING we could eat if we listened to all of these articles. I do believe many of them have very good points, but there is no healthy food if we listen to all of them. For me to stick with this, I just have to eat everything in moderation and try to vary my diet as much as I can.
  • HeidiCooksSupper
    HeidiCooksSupper Posts: 3,831 Member
    It might be time for a warning about di-hydrogen monoxide again. It's in just about everything!

    http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
  • cavia
    cavia Posts: 457 Member
    I always thought I was a little on the squirrelly side.
  • ateamtrainer
    ateamtrainer Posts: 12
    Alternatively

    Eating Nuts Daily Could Help Control Type 2 Diabetes and Prevent Complications, Study Suggests
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110712094201.htm

    Eating Nuts Associated With Improvements in Cholesterol Levels
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100510161250.htm

    Benefits of Nut Consumption for People With Abdominal Obesity, High Blood Sugar, High Blood Pressure
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111102125348.htm
  • LondonEliza
    LondonEliza Posts: 456 Member
    If anyone tries to take my cashews to give to small rodent type animals, I will use my 90lb-in-weight deadlifting body to glower menacingly at them .... with intent! :)
  • LondonEliza
    LondonEliza Posts: 456 Member

    (And I did actually read the article... interesting stuff, but again, I take all of these things with a grain of salt).

    Yummm.... nuts with salt NOW you're talking, great for treating early morning runners cramps.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    I knew that this would get these type of reactions on here but I'm actually really interested in whether people who have taken the time to read the article agree or disagree with what is being said and on what grounds (hopefully scientific). I was a big nut eater too but am re-considering.

    You'll notice if you read the article that she doesn't say you can't eat nuts at all ever but recommends cutting down consumption quite a bit from what a lot of people on here would eat and also treating them first.

    Disagree her studies are old and non related I think maybe she quoted one or two that actually had anything to do with nuts, and there are no studies on seeds. Most of the studies were invitro and looked at supplementation.
  • walktalkdog
    walktalkdog Posts: 102 Member
    I read it. But I have no scientific background that qualifies me to agree or disagree. I eat 15 almonds each day, and a tablespoon of peanut butter in my oatmeal as part of my ususal daily fare. If the article is true; Bummer, as I like nuts and seeds.
  • whitecapwendy
    whitecapwendy Posts: 287 Member
    Does that mean I can officially say I eat like a bird?
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Well crap first it was eggs, then it was fat, next it was carbohydrates no breads, no pasta, no fruit, after that came meat, then it was sugar, after that they put the smack down on milk, cursed bacon, burned caffeine, harassed pasteurization, dissed potatoes, mutilated corn, insulted lard, then it was soda, after that diet soda, now its nuts and seeds. Holy hell what can we eat?

    and that ladies and gentlemen...is 'it' in a nutshell.
    (see what I did there?)
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    Um No...... Just No..... <Goes back to eating my bowl of Almonds> :drinker:
  • ShellyBell999
    ShellyBell999 Posts: 1,482 Member
    No one is going to take my nuts!
  • CarmenSRT
    CarmenSRT Posts: 843 Member
    Peanut butter. 'Nuff said.
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain ;)
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member

    (And I did actually read the article... interesting stuff, but again, I take all of these things with a grain of salt).

    Yummm.... nuts with salt NOW you're talking, great for treating early morning runners cramps.

    **whips head around**
    in for salty nuts. now make with the gifs
  • HollisGrant
    HollisGrant Posts: 2,022 Member
    Well crap first it was eggs, then it was fat, next it was carbohydrates no breads, no pasta, no fruit, after that came meat, then it was sugar, after that they put the smack down on milk, cursed bacon, burned caffeine, harassed pasteurization, dissed potatoes, mutilated corn, insulted lard, then it was soda, after that diet soda, now its nuts and seeds. Holy hell what can we eat?

    and that ladies and gentlemen...is 'it' in a nutshell.
    (see what I did there?)

    You're just a nutty kinda gal!!
  • nickyfm
    nickyfm Posts: 1,214 Member
    I eat a lot of almonds, cashews and sunflower seeds. Well it's no wonder I keep catching myself chirping on my neighbour's balcony every morning...
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    Does that mean I can officially say I eat like a bird?

    You also have to start pecking at your food.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    And regarding the peroxidation the great thing about PUFA's is they are in nature generally higher in Vitmain E which is an antioxidant.
  • shadus
    shadus Posts: 424 Member
    First, it looks like most of the 'science' on this is derived from research on other food types and applying what was found there to nuts broad cloth... there was only one study related to nuts in any way shape or form and that being based off of lipid oxidation.

    Secondarily, much of her conjecture in the article is completely unrelated to the topics covered by those papers (a few you can look up on google scholar for instance.)

    Third, without applicable science to support it, I'd call this an interesting but completely unsupported hypothesis. There needs to be significantly more information and studies to test this hypothesis directly. Right now it's nothing but bunk science, the first direct sign of this is that there has been no testing of say, almonds a tree nut vs sunflower seeds an annual vs peanuts a legume vs wheat which is a grain seed. Yes, those are all nuts and seeds... but if I lump, oranges as a tree citrus, tomato as an annual fruit, raspberries as a perennial fruit, and avacados as another tree fruit.... as being exactly the same would you take me seriously? This is no different... and no less absurd than that grouping.

    Edit: Doing a bit more research she's known as a controversial nutritionist... because from what I can see elsewhere online, her nutritional ideas aren't supported by science like the less controversial nutritionists.

    Edit2: She's making up goofy **** to set her apart from other nutritionists. It's hard to get ahead when there are 30 other people with the same science, same info, same data as you... so she's being "creative".

    Edit3: I'll also add-- i say this all as someone who really doesn't get much from nuts. They're a bit too calorie dense for me for the most part and given the choice between a handful of nuts and a 150g potato... I'll take the potato every time macro/micro nutrients be damned.
  • bluefox9er
    bluefox9er Posts: 2,917 Member
    I am aware that this will probably be a contraversial post because I know how much people on here love their nuts. This article was written by a nutritionist that comes highly recommended by someone highly qualified in the fitness industry that I greatly respect and who believes in a very balanced and sensible (and science-based) approach to nutrition and fitness. So have a read and tell me what you think.

    http://www.nutritionbynature.com.au/1/post/2012/11/nuts-seeds-are-for-birds-and-squirrels-not-humans.html

    the person who wrote that article is an idiot.

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