Paleo diet, great or another fad?

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  • msarro
    msarro Posts: 2,748 Member
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    Warning: Geekery ahead

    Paleo makes some sense to me from an anthropological perspective, I just don't like the bleed over into "raw" foods. Fact is, most of our ancient human archeological sites include things like campfires and butchering areas - our ancient ancestors did cook their food. Not near as much as we do now, but they certainly did cook.

    Wheat suggests agriculture and permanent settlements because it takes so much wheat to make much of anything, so it may not be the most primal food source for us. But that doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, though it can be. I mean ultra-enriched bleached white flour which has all chaff, bran, germ and a significant amount of gluten removed is just a lot of empty calories. Your body really does consider that the same as candy when it comes time to metabolize it. Compare that white stuff to a true fresh ground whole wheat flour which has all of that stuff still in it, and you're in a completely different nutritional ballgame with protein, fiber, more complex carbohydrates, etc.

    I always liked this quote: "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants."
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
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    I've just heard about the Paleo and was curious if it is any good or just another fad? Why should I choose this diet instead of the many others out there?

    1. it is not a 'diet' it's a set of guidelines for eating in general, or a lifestyle change. If you're not willing to eat that way for the most part (80/20 and all that) then you shouldn't try it. I go primal (mostly) because I have no interest in giving up cheese.

    But at it's core, it's based on natural whole foods (meat, vegetables, fruits, etc) and their health aspects. I find it hard to consider that faddish.
    I just don't like the bleed over into "raw" foods.
    I haven't actually seen too much raw food bleedover (it's more like, cook it in butter!). I'm curious what site's you are reading.
  • pfgaytriot
    pfgaytriot Posts: 238 Member
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    It might be a fad, just like being a vegetarian or vegan is considered by some, but I enjoy being paleo because it makes me feel good.

    My experience with it? I know that after being paleo for a while and going through testing to be a kidney donor that I was one of the healthiest kidney donor candidates they've ever seen. I've also had an amazingly easy post-op recovery, which I've learned is apparently kind of rare. I'm sure that the fact that I exercised regularly prior to surgery attributed to that, though. Upon being released from the hospital the nutritionist asked me about my diet and when I told her I was paleo she laughed and said, "you have no dietary restrictions in that case." Though I do not have kidney disease, I have to live a life as though I do to protect my remaining kidney; which means that if I ate differently I would have some dietary restrictions. But, it is recommended that those suffering from kidney failure to reduce their protein intake because the kidneys may not be able to process urea normally, they didn't seem to be concerned about this for me. I do try to make sure I don't go overboard with it, though.

    A couple of people have mentioned that you still have to count calories. For some that may be true, but not for me. I've eaten anywhere between 1,800 - 2,300 calories a day since starting the diet and continued to lose weight with exercise.

    Anyway, these are just my experiences. Research it and do it if you feel it's right for you. I started with Whole30 and liked it so well that I decided to continue with the paleo lifestyle.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
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    Is it sustainable? Do you like it? Do you feel good on it? If so, then it could be the lifestyle for you. It isn't bad for you (and is honestly pretty good because you're still able to eat all of the foods your body needs so if you're careful you'll get all of your nutrients), but is not a very sustainable lifestyle for some.
  • TKRV
    TKRV Posts: 165 Member
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    I did a 'Paleo Challenge" for 60 days with my gym. The nutritionist who spoke about it said it was based around eating the food with the greatest nutritional value and leaving out food with little value. The only reason it's nicknamed the 'caveman diet' is because you're mostly eating meat, fruits and veggies... or things that are found in the wild. It has nothing to do with actually aspiring to eat like cavemen ate.

    If you look into it, you will find reasoning behind the food they exclude. Mostly, they exclude food that can cause insulin spikes, promote inflammation, or have high calories and low nutritional value. I really enjoyed the 60 day challenge because it forced me to lean how to cook and eat healthier. Though I am not on it, I learned a lot and incorporate what I learned into my daily eating habits.

    In my opinion, Paleo is fantastic just for what it can teach you about food. For me, personally, I wouldn't commit it to my lifestyle.
  • cw822
    cw822 Posts: 107
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    I disagree with it being a "fad", but do think that different things work for different people. I chose Paleo because it means getting rid of processed foods, GMO grains and soy are not good for you whether you are gluten intolerant or not. Paleo focuses on eating locally and/or organically meats, fruits, vegetables and healthy fats.

    My blood pressure has gone down substantially since I moved to Paleo and my asthma has all but disappeared. For me, those side benefits far outweigh the "need" to have bread and the like.
  • gem5639
    gem5639 Posts: 90
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    Paleo is the best thing I have ever done... and I honestly believe I will do this for the rest of my life!
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
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    That is not a diet. It is a blog by a woman who successfully lost weight and became a hottie through moderation. She often exposes myths and fad diets. The Kaleo reference is a sarcastic comment on her hatred of restrictive diets, such as paleo. She is an awesome lady who would not appreciate anyone claiming that she promotes "dieting."

    I think you might be misrepresenting her position somewhat (unless it has changed so feel free to correct me):
    Don’t get me wrong, I still think paleo has it right. Health comes from eating quality whole foods, that are sourced locally and sustainably. But the high meat thing didn’t work for me. My diet is still high quality, local and sustainable. The vast bulk of my diet is locally and sustainably grown vegetables, leafy greens and fruit. I fill it out with organic sprouted legumes (they work for me), nuts and seeds, and an organic sprouted seed based protein powder to meet my protein needs when my diet falls short. Other than the legumes, there’s nothing there that isn’t paleo. And it’s plant based! And I feel GREAT on it. I perform well on it. I look pretty good too.

    Moral of the story: paleo’s right about eating quality food, eating locally, eating seasonally, avoiding fake foods made from industrially grown plants and animals. Some people can do quite well on minimal animal foods (nothing against animal foods, eat ‘em if that’s what floats your boat, but good health is possible without them).

    link: http://gokaleo.com/2012/01/06/what-happened-when-i-went-strict-paleo/

    She seems quite sensible to me.

    Yes, she is *very* sensible. She advocates carbs for energy to exercise appropriately. Whole foods as much as possible, etc. I read her blog daily, and love her Facebook page. Her blog's subheading is "Are you as tired of fad diet as I am?"

    This is one of my favorites: http://gokaleo.com/2013/03/19/moderation-is-evidence-based/

    ETA: To clear up confusion about the name Kaleo:
    http://gokaleo.com/about-me/what-is-kaleo-2/
    Kale + Paleo = Kaleo. It’s a joke, yo! A word I made up because people always seem to want to label my way of eating, to put me ‘in a box’. I kinda liked it though, and it took on a life of it’s own. It grew into something more than a play on words, an anti-dogma if you will. Kaleo resists the philosophical dogma that there is only ONE right way to eat.

    Everyone’s ‘ideal’ diet is very individual and unique to themselves.

    The name "Kaleo" is a joke. So if you took that as me representing her, I apologize. She is spot-on in every blog I've read.
  • VorJoshigan
    VorJoshigan Posts: 1,106 Member
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    Why can't it be both? I don't do diets, but if I was going to do one, it would be Paleo. If there is one thing that is positive about Paleo, it's that it's a good response to the low-fat dogma that is still stubbornly refusing to die. I'm not saying high-fat is good for everybody, but it's not the evil that was portrayed by the government and media for 30+ years.
  • MxcnMrcnZrr
    MxcnMrcnZrr Posts: 18 Member
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    I'm about to rail on Paleo so I should say something positive about it first. The whole paleo avoid processed foods and chemicals you can't pronounce thing is WONDERFUL, ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
    However, I have several problems with paleo.
    First it's kind of like a religion. It's the only right way to eat. Everyone else is doing it incorrectly. There is special knowledge like a religion. No one else knows this. They are all deceived, because whole grains are EVIL. I'm thinking, "Whole grains are evil???" What the heck? So all these studies are just bunk?
    It just smacks of pseudoscience. "Reprogram your body to burn fats instead of carbohydrates"????? Where are the studies for this? Robb Wolf has a refutation on his site. Says there are studies. http://robbwolf.com/what-is-the-paleo-diet/science-research/
    U.S. News said they looked at the studies Robb cites. Quote "U.S. News reviewed the five cited studies and referenced four of them in this profile. The studies were small and short, making strong conclusions difficult. The “one tiny study” related only to weight loss, not to the Paleo diet broadly." http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet
    They are reinventing the wheel. Lots of studies have shown that eating LOTS of meat can be harmful. I will never give up red meat. PLEASE don't get me wrong. I just bought a 1/4 of beef. I use a little lard in my refried beans. Shoot, I just made bbq'd pork ribs on Saturday, but to just eat all that all the time as much of it as you want with no repercussions? If it sounds to good to be true, than it probably is.
    Oatmeal is bad for you??????? Sorry you lost me at Oatmeal is bad for you, and you are going to reprogram your body to blah, blah, blah. Oatmeal is bad for you?? That's absurd.
    One other thing that really turns me off is that their body just FLIPS out when they eat like a couple of cookies or whatever. I mean they gain a couple of pounds and their stomachs are all upset and they feel just horrendous. Sorry, but your diet is messed up if you can't handle drinking one beer. Something just has to be wrong. Doesn't that mean your body is weak?
  • MxcnMrcnZrr
    MxcnMrcnZrr Posts: 18 Member
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    I'm about to rail on Paleo so I should say something positive about it first. The whole paleo avoid processed foods and chemicals you can't pronounce thing is WONDERFUL, ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
    However, I have several problems with paleo.
    First it's kind of like a religion. It's the only right way to eat. Everyone else is doing it incorrectly. There is special knowledge like a religion. No one else knows this. They are all deceived, because whole grains are EVIL. I'm thinking, "Whole grains are evil???" What the heck? So all these studies are just bunk?
    It just smacks of pseudoscience. "Reprogram your body to burn fats instead of carbohydrates"????? Where are the studies for this? Robb Wolf has a refutation on his site. Says there are studies. http://robbwolf.com/what-is-the-paleo-diet/science-research/
    U.S. News said they looked at the studies Robb cites. Quote "U.S. News reviewed the five cited studies and referenced four of them in this profile. The studies were small and short, making strong conclusions difficult. The “one tiny study” related only to weight loss, not to the Paleo diet broadly." http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet
    They are reinventing the wheel. Lots of studies have shown that eating LOTS of meat can be harmful. I will never give up red meat. PLEASE don't get me wrong. I just bought a 1/4 of beef. I use a little lard in my refried beans. Shoot, I just made bbq'd pork ribs on Saturday, but to just eat all that all the time as much of it as you want with no repercussions? If it sounds to good to be true, than it probably is.
    Oatmeal is bad for you??????? Sorry you lost me at Oatmeal is bad for you, and you are going to reprogram your body to blah, blah, blah. Oatmeal is bad for you?? That's absurd.
    One other thing that really turns me off is that their body just FLIPS out when they eat like a couple of cookies or whatever. I mean they gain a couple of pounds and their stomachs are all upset and they feel just horrendous. Sorry, but your diet is messed up if you can't handle drinking one beer. Something just has to be wrong. Doesn't that mean your body is weak?
    Here is another nice review on the paleo diet. http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-review-the-caveman-paleo-diet I'm very negative on it. Both reviews I cited here are not really. There is plenty of good in it. The bad turns me off enough to not want to touch it. Oh, okay that I'm of Mexican decent and would never give up tortillas (real tortillas btw, not paleo "tortillas" has something to do with it also.
  • ascends831
    ascends831 Posts: 17 Member
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    I've been on a modified Paleo since I lost my weight. I would say the important take away from Paleo is learning about your reaction to sugar in the body. Like sugar from foods other than fresh fruit or veggies - those are ok (exclude starchy foods like potatoes, corn, beans, corn, grains, rice, dairy, of course anything processed) eat starchy tubers like butternut squash, yams in moderation (like 1 serving a day or less). If you eliminate the "dirty" groups for 5 days and don't feel much much better on an energetic level - this is not a lifestyle shift for you. #1 FOR PALEO people, you gotta feel good and better than before very early on or the changes will not be permanent and you will be in the "fad"

    However, if you do cut out the "no no foods" and feel better you should probably start experimenting to see what your system wants and work for a mental perspective of health and vitality and the mirror will soon reflect that. Why should you wait until you have a major issue to stop eating something. Also, some foods in a more clean and pure form would be fine, but packaged foods has so many toxins it affects a body's functioning on some level and is bad. If you need to wait until the all big study signs point to yes to give stuff up you will likely end up with an aliment before that happens as a lot of money and resources go into the food industry and making it lucrative.

    You can learn from the Paleo community and not be 100% with every rule... I can eat cheese as my body processes it well. However I no longer buy soft cheeses, milk, yogurt etc... Because I can find better things to take up my calories that's gonna build on that feeling of vitality and give more nutrition. And those products are expensive and I'd rather spend it on organic and hormone free meat, veggies, fruit, and eggs. But still I do probably get 20% of my calories from "no no foods" and this satisfies my needs to have some of everything while feeling optimal and mostly very healthy meals choices help me lose weight fast.
  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
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    Definitely a fad. Like most diets, it works IF you can stick with it. Most of the people I know who eat paleo seem to divert from it quite a bit, especially when eating out and socialising. It makes it very difficult to eat anything that is not home-prepared (which is where I think most of our food should come from but I still like to eat out from time to time). The main problem I have with it is that it cuts out grains and dairy when most people can eat these as part of a healthy balanced diet without any issues.
  • chelseascounter
    chelseascounter Posts: 1,283 Member
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    I've been on paleo for 3 weeks. I feel its too restrictive, now I'm probably going to introduce grains in my diet again. Since going paleo I have more calories to spare and I can eat more food (in my daily calorie limit.) I haven't had an upset stomach since going paleo, something I used to to get daily.
  • happieharpie
    happieharpie Posts: 229 Member
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    I became interested in paleo about 3 years ago, lost about 15 pounds then stopped losing weight. A few months ago, I omitted salt, sugar, grains, and dairy from my eating plan, and since then I've lost a consistent 1 3/4 pounds/week.

    I did not set out to do Paleo in this round, and my main sources of protein are eggs, egg whites, and nuts. I feel MUCH better than I did before starting. No cravings, no binges. I also eat within a 21/3 IF scedule.

    I agree with many of the Paleo criticisms already mentioned. For myself, my current eating plan is monotonous and repetitive, and I'm very happy with that.

    I feel strongly that we must each find our own path to successful weight management.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
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    You can learn from the Paleo community and not be 100% with every rule...

    Well then I'm paleo, except I also add-in dairy, peanuts, corn, and whole grains.
  • ellew70
    ellew70 Posts: 222 Member
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    I've just heard about the Paleo and was curious if it is any good or just another fad? Why should I choose this diet instead of the many others out there?

    It seems very restrictive me and for no good reason. For example, most legumes aren't on the paleo diet, as I understand it. I would think it would be better to be on a less restrictive but still healthy diet, as you would be more likely to stay with it in the long run. But that doesn't sell cookbooks and such so /shrug.
  • fastfoodv
    fastfoodv Posts: 41
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    It’s a fad. It’s primarily a high protein/low carb diet. Among other things it cuts out all grains, which I don’t recommend. Balance is best.

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