Is Being Really Lean Really Worth It?
BusyRaeNOTBusty
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Good article:
http://mollygalbraith.com/2013/07/is-being-really-lean-really-worth-it/
I like this:
I think this is where I am at. I'm pretty happy aesthetically and not really willing to change my lifestyle anymore get my aesthetics exactly where I want them to be.
http://mollygalbraith.com/2013/07/is-being-really-lean-really-worth-it/
I like this:
If you don’t want to make sacrifices (big or small) to change your body, then that is your prerogative. This woman has found the spot where her aesthetics, performance, health, and lifestyle intersect. Maybe none of them are *exactly* where she wants them to be, but she has a solid balance.
I think this is where I am at. I'm pretty happy aesthetically and not really willing to change my lifestyle anymore get my aesthetics exactly where I want them to be.
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She makes some great points!0
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There was alot of that pissed me off in this article, just another accept who you article full of incorrect observations.
Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
Some of us can maintain leaner physiques than others. -> Genetics does play a small part, but mainly no everyone can achieve a low bodyfat percentage, its all about nutrition.
Going beyond a healthy level of leanness for YOU is a stressor. -> Yes, going to a very low bf% especially competition low for males and trying to maintain this can cause sever shifts in hormone levels, but were talking under 9% here and lean is generally considered under 12-15, which is achievable by 99% of men willing to put the effort in.
It’s not normal, and it may not even be healthy, to walk around shredded all the time. -> Again a misunderstanding, heaving a healthy/lean healthy bodyfat% is very healthy for you.0 -
There was alot of that pissed me off in this article, just another accept who you article full of incorrect observations.
Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
Some of us can maintain leaner physiques than others. -> Genetics does play a small part, but mainly no everyone can achieve a low bodyfat percentage, its all about nutrition.
Going beyond a healthy level of leanness for YOU is a stressor. -> Yes, going to a very low bf% especially competition low for males and trying to maintain this can cause sever shifts in hormone levels, but were talking under 9% here and lean is generally considered under 12-15, which is achievable by 99% of men willing to put the effort in.
It’s not normal, and it may not even be healthy, to walk around shredded all the time. -> Again a misunderstanding, heaving a healthy/lean healthy bodyfat% is very healthy for you.
You do realize the article was directed at women, right? We DO require a higher bodyfat percentage than men. Our hormones are very different. And she WAS talking about competition level leanness. She didn't say everyone couldn't achieve low body fat, she just said it was hard to maintain. You say 12-15 is achievable for most men. That's about the same as 20% for women. NOT what she's talking about at all.0 -
The article was fine. And nobody who doesn't want to change lifestyle will change, regardless of lean or not.0
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I love this, and it reflects where and who I am right now.
I'm just a normal (more or less) middle aged woman who wants to be healthy, strong and fit. My life is not going to be any different in any measurable way if I can run a sub 7 minute mile, or lose another ten pounds, or bench press my body weight.
I'd LIKE to do all of those things, but they'd just be feathers in my cap. It wouldn't mean I'm any smarter, or kinder, or richer, or prettier, or any anythinger. It won't even help me make up better new words! Being able to run a 7:15 mile, wear a dress size larger, and bench press about .7x my body weight is good enough.
The "cost" of doing those things isn't worth the achievement. I'm not willing to run myself into the ground (again... one stress fracture was enough thankyouverymuch), eat significantly less than I am, or walk around sore all the time from lifting. And I won't give up good toilet paper, either. Charmin or Cottonelle only.0 -
It wouldn't mean I'm any smarter, or kinder, or richer, or prettier, or any anythinger. It won't even help me make up better new words!
I don't know, I think that one would catch on quickly, I like it!
I'm not quite where I'm comfortable yet, but I'm starting to worry about when I will be.0 -
That is where I am. I am unwilling to do more (or any) cardio. I refuse to lower my calories and won't go low carbs or whatever else to get leaner. So I guess it is as good at it is going to get for me.0
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Today is my one year fit anniversary and this just summed up where I am today... Fit on my own terms... and happy!0
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Yes.. Being lean has its social benefits.0
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Yes.. Being lean has its social benefits.
So are you saying you get laid more at 8% body fat than say 14%?0 -
Really interesting blog, it was a good post. I've been feeling kind of nuts lately, I know where I would love to be, but I don't know if all the sacrifices are worth it right now. Struggling with it a lot the past couple months.0
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I have to question what this woman's routine for 'getting lean' is. She says that she was miserable when she was really lean. That leads me to think that she wasn't eating the right foods.
I could very well say that I'm happy with how I look right now and just go into maintenance mode, but I'm steadily losing fat, and I'm not miserable.
I expect to be around 18% body fat by Halloween, if not sooner, and with the way that I eat and exercise right now, I don't foresee any misery attached to that number at all. I'm not sacrificing anything. I eat what tastes good, I make my exercise things that are fun to me, and I get enough sleep. Becoming steadily leaner is just an awesome side effect of the way I'm living my life :-)0 -
There's something in that blog that doesn't get ackknowledged enough: Genetics matters. And I am not making excuses because I've actually been blessed with good genes.
I also made a conscious decision that if it takes hours and hours in the gym, I'm not doing it. I run and work out with weights, but I've got a lot of things I want to do and I have no aspirations to be a gym rat.0 -
I have to question what this woman's routine for 'getting lean' is. She says that she was miserable when she was really lean. That leads me to think that she wasn't eating the right foods.
I could very well say that I'm happy with how I look right now and just go into maintenance mode, but I'm steadily losing fat, and I'm not miserable.
I expect to be around 18% body fat by Halloween, if not sooner, and with the way that I eat and exercise right now, I don't foresee any misery attached to that number at all. I'm not sacrificing anything. I eat what tastes good, I make my exercise things that are fun to me, and I get enough sleep. Becoming steadily leaner is just an awesome side effect of the way I'm living my life :-)
The leaner you get, harder it is to get there and stay there. It is not because it is easy right now that it will stay that way.0 -
Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
EXACT same way? Rubbish.0 -
Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
EXACT same way? Rubbish.
It is not rubbish.0 -
I have to question what this woman's routine for 'getting lean' is. She says that she was miserable when she was really lean. That leads me to think that she wasn't eating the right foods.
I could very well say that I'm happy with how I look right now and just go into maintenance mode, but I'm steadily losing fat, and I'm not miserable.
I expect to be around 18% body fat by Halloween, if not sooner, and with the way that I eat and exercise right now, I don't foresee any misery attached to that number at all. I'm not sacrificing anything. I eat what tastes good, I make my exercise things that are fun to me, and I get enough sleep. Becoming steadily leaner is just an awesome side effect of the way I'm living my life :-)
The leaner you get, harder it is to get there and stay there. It is not because it is easy right now that it will stay that way.
Well, I guess I'll be back around Halloween then ;-)0 -
There was alot of that pissed me off in this article, just another accept who you article full of incorrect observations.
Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
Some of us can maintain leaner physiques than others. -> Genetics does play a small part, but mainly no everyone can achieve a low bodyfat percentage, its all about nutrition.
Going beyond a healthy level of leanness for YOU is a stressor. -> Yes, going to a very low bf% especially competition low for males and trying to maintain this can cause sever shifts in hormone levels, but were talking under 9% here and lean is generally considered under 12-15, which is achievable by 99% of men willing to put the effort in.
It’s not normal, and it may not even be healthy, to walk around shredded all the time. -> Again a misunderstanding, heaving a healthy/lean healthy bodyfat% is very healthy for you.
And you go off topic. SHE was writing about how competition-level lean was incompatible with HER body functioning in a way that was normal and healthy for her and therefore up there next to looking like a runway model in the form over function department. We have no business adding our own personal experiences into this because they have nothing to do with it.0 -
Here is her follow up article!
http://mollygalbraith.com/2013/07/extreme-leanness-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/0 -
I have to question what this woman's routine for 'getting lean' is. She says that she was miserable when she was really lean. That leads me to think that she wasn't eating the right foods.
I didn't get that the misery was just about the food. It was about ALL the sacrifices necessary to maintain that level. From the blog:If you would prefer to be extremely lean, and it’s worth it to you to skip social events, get in bed by 9 pm every night, and train twice a day to get there, that’s fantastic. Do it. You are choosing aesthetics over lifestyle, and probably over performance and health, but if you want it, then do it.
I like pizza, bagels and the occasional glass of wine much more than I like the idea of being very lean. I like that fitness is a nice hobby, but doesn't control my life. I like that if my husband suggests going to the Super Terrific Jumbo Happy Family China Buffet, I can get all the sushi I want without worrying about the carbs in the rice or the fat in the spicy mayo tuna roll.
I might be leaner if I cut out all processed food and was a lot more rigid about exercise. But the amount of happiness I'd get from being leaner wouldn't be more than the happiness I get from eating all the foods I enjoy and being flexible enough in my exercise that skipping a day doesn't give me panic attacks.
Now, if you really like "clean" eating, and get more of a thrill from exercise than I do, then it's not a sacrifice at all. But that's not everyone.0 -
Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
EXACT same way? Rubbish.
It is not rubbish.
*eyeroll*
Of course it's rubbish. We do not react in the *exact* same way. Most people are broadly similar within a fairly decent range of parameters, although there are outliers as well.
If we reacted in the exact same way, there would be no need to include more than one person in any clinical trial.0 -
I like ice cream. I'm totally cool where I'm at now, a little more body fat than a month ago when I was at my leanest, but I have more energy, and can still enjoy foods I love.0
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I have to question what this woman's routine for 'getting lean' is. She says that she was miserable when she was really lean. That leads me to think that she wasn't eating the right foods.
I didn't get that the misery was just about the food. It was about ALL the sacrifices necessary to maintain that level. From the blog:If you would prefer to be extremely lean, and it’s worth it to you to skip social events, get in bed by 9 pm every night, and train twice a day to get there, that’s fantastic. Do it. You are choosing aesthetics over lifestyle, and probably over performance and health, but if you want it, then do it.
I like pizza, bagels and the occasional glass of wine much more than I like the idea of being very lean. I like that fitness is a nice hobby, but doesn't control my life. I like that if my husband suggests going to the Super Terrific Jumbo Happy Family China Buffet, I can get all the sushi I want without worrying about the carbs in the rice or the fat in the spicy mayo tuna roll.
I might be leaner if I cut out all processed food and was a lot more rigid about exercise. But the amount of happiness I'd get from being leaner wouldn't be more than the happiness I get from eating all the foods I enjoy and being flexible enough in my exercise that skipping a day doesn't give me panic attacks.
Now, if you really like "clean" eating, and get more of a thrill from exercise than I do, then it's not a sacrifice at all. But that's not everyone.
That's exactly what I'm coming to terms with. Thanks for the post! I'm think I like the idea of peanut butter cap'n crunch way more than the idea of a six pack.0 -
Yes.. Being lean has its social benefits.
So are you saying you get laid more at 8% body fat than say 14%?
Highly unlikely. Libido is reduced the lower the % of BF ... at least that is what a family member said about it when he was at really low BF % himself.0 -
I didn't mean to quote that many posts. ooopppsss0
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I have to question what this woman's routine for 'getting lean' is. She says that she was miserable when she was really lean. That leads me to think that she wasn't eating the right foods.
I could very well say that I'm happy with how I look right now and just go into maintenance mode, but I'm steadily losing fat, and I'm not miserable.
I expect to be around 18% body fat by Halloween, if not sooner, and with the way that I eat and exercise right now, I don't foresee any misery attached to that number at all. I'm not sacrificing anything. I eat what tastes good, I make my exercise things that are fun to me, and I get enough sleep. Becoming steadily leaner is just an awesome side effect of the way I'm living my life :-)
I think what she was saying was that it was hard for her. She said she has a friend who finds it easy. That is what the article is about, is it worth it to be lean. She's saying for her it is hard so not worth it.. For you it might be easier and therefor worth it.0 -
It depends what's more important to you. I'm on the fence, sometimes I want all the icecream and think screw it, other times I'm like nah, think about the bikini. At the end of the day if I can find a way to get both, I will, if not, I guess the proof is in the pudding :laugh:0
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Not worth it for me. All I care about is being happy, healthy, and fit. I'm all of the above at my current 20% BF. I wouldn't mind knocking off a few more points which is why I'm cutting calories again...but it's simply not worth the level of effort and sacrifice necessary at going on 39 years old to get into the low teens or havin' a ripped six pack. I like beer, wine, and booze way too much...and I love to workout, but there's only so much time in the day.0
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Everybody is different. -> INCORRECT, we are all humans and our body's all behave, react and adapt in the exact same way, there's a whole science around it, its called human biology.
EXACT same way? Rubbish.
It is not rubbish.
Yes, actually, it is. Otherwise, there would not be drugs that this person can safely metabolize but not that one, all of us would have the same response to the same exposure to pathogens, etc. But we don't. By and large we are very similar. And the more necessary the biological process, the more similar we tend to be, but our bodies do not react EXACTLY the same as everyone else's unless you are only talking in very broad terms, like eat more calories than you burn and you will gain.0
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