Breaking the cycle...

Any suggestions on how to change habits... Everyday I ruin my really good diet as soon as I walk through the door at home. I instantly feel hungry and go for rubbish junk sugary foods. It clicked today that I've actually done this since I was a young child coming home from school... I'd always have a snack as soon as I've walked through the door but since the age of probably around 12/13 this has become a mini binge. Every day I say I won't today but even though I do amazingly throughout the day as soon as I walk through that door I fail... Any suggestions on how to address this???

Help please....

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  • tricksee
    tricksee Posts: 835 Member
    Don't buy the *kitten* you'll end up feeling bad about eating.

    Sorted!
  • LoraF83
    LoraF83 Posts: 15,694 Member
    I would normally advise that you moderate your serving sizes. Allow yourself to have treats, but measured out and completely accounted for in your food diary.

    However, if you truly can't control yourself, don't keep it in the house until you are able to resist.
  • Yeah I would do that if my partner didn't eat it... My partner isn't what I call an healthy eater. We have a junk food draw as that was my way of minimizing where I saw the crap food. My son also has snacks in the drawer.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    Don't buy the *kitten* you'll end up feeling bad about eating.

    Sorted!

    This. Can't eat what's not there.

    Alternatively, not only stop buying the crap, but replace it with good stuff. If the only sweet thing in the house is a pineapple, then you just eat the pineapple. Two birds with one stone - you cut out the crap and get more fruits/veggies.
  • My husband likes to eat things I don't like having around in the house. We make a compromise that I buy it for him and he keeps it at work or somewhere I can't find it.
  • Again, getting rid of the food from the house isn't an option... I can't force the way I want to eat on other people and I wouldn't want to. It will be in the house its just finding a way to manage this... was hoping for some constructive supportive suggestions and some solutions that might help.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    Yeah I would do that if my partner didn't eat it... My partner isn't what I call an healthy eater. We have a junk food draw as that was my way of minimizing where I saw the crap food. My son also has snacks in the drawer.

    Are you the one that does most of the grocery shopping? If so, then stop buying it and tell them "tough luck."

    You should be setting a good example for your son, anyway. And if your partner really wants the junk s/he can go out and buy it themselves.

    As someone who has managed to turn an "I don't eat no rabbit food" man into a true omnivore, it is entirely possible to change their habits, too. You just have to put your foot down, and be willing to work with them (by getting/making substitutes for the bad stuff).
  • reasg3911
    reasg3911 Posts: 4
    I don't know if it's at all mental for you, but I know that I tend to eat what I've been thinking about eating. If I start to think about what sweets I want to eat when I get home for school or work, it's pretty much a sure thing that I'm going to eat sweets. If I have something else I'm planning to eat and I think about that instead, it's a pretty sure thing that I'll end up eating that. It's sure sounds easier than it is though. I only managed to stop overeating about a week ago, and I really couldn't tell you what finally triggered this change. Good luck!
  • Manleymomof2
    Manleymomof2 Posts: 50 Member
    bump
  • 9jenn9
    9jenn9 Posts: 309 Member
    What he said, but I'd put it like this: plan your way to success. Clean out your cupboards to the extent you're able. Anything you can't get rid of (stuff your family would mutiny over if you got rid of it), put it in one designated place. Put it in a place that isn't it's usual place and isn't easy to get to. The idea is to break a mindless habit. If you've got to make an extra effort to get to it, it gives you a chance to put the brakes on.

    Also, it might help to substitute something else you like for noshing. This habit is probably equal parts hunger and needing a de-stressing transition from work to home. Get a healthy snack and take 15 minutes to do something that makes you happy and calm ~ read a book, browse mfp, etc. Whatever floats your boat. Good luck.
  • LoraF83
    LoraF83 Posts: 15,694 Member
    Again, getting rid of the food from the house isn't an option... I can't force the way I want to eat on other people and I wouldn't want to. It will be in the house its just finding a way to manage this... was hoping for some constructive supportive suggestions and some solutions that might help.

    Well, advising you to steer clear of it if you can't moderate it is a constructive suggestion.

    Replace your son's snacks with healthier ones - you can start setting a good example for him now. As far as your partner goes, ask him to keep it somewhere else, hidden from you. Maybe the garage or someplace like that? Just temporarily while you get your moderation issues under control. There's nothing wrong with a few treats here and there, but if you can't control it, you need to avoid it. He should help support you in that. You're not saying he can't have it, you're just asking him to help you learn to control it.
  • I don't know if it's at all mental for you, but I know that I tend to eat what I've been thinking about eating. If I start to think about what sweets I want to eat when I get home for school or work, it's pretty much a sure thing that I'm going to eat sweets. If I have something else I'm planning to eat and I think about that instead, it's a pretty sure thing that I'll end up eating that. It's sure sounds easier than it is though. I only managed to stop overeating about a week ago, and I really couldn't tell you what finally triggered this change. Good luck!

    Thank you for your helpful suggestion... will definitely try giving this a go... do you have alternatives to eat?
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    Again, getting rid of the food from the house isn't an option... I can't force the way I want to eat on other people and I wouldn't want to. It will be in the house its just finding a way to manage this... was hoping for some constructive supportive suggestions and some solutions that might help.

    I started my first response before yours got posted, so it wasn't a matter of me ignoring your followup. It just wasn't there when I wrote what I wrote.

    That said, I stand by what I've said. Additionally, talk to your partner about your struggles and try to get them to work with you. They may not even know they're currently part of the problem. You don't have to do this alone, and you'll be more likely to be successful if you have some support from the people you live with.

    If they are really stubborn, tell them it's a temporary thing, until you can kick the cravings. Then you can reintroduce their favorite snacks occasionally. In the meantime, they can keep it at work, or somewhere you can't get to.

    Changing your diet, especially something like this, isn't that much different from trying to quit any other addiction - you can't just "moderate" the thing you're addicted to. You have to stop it completely. Only once you've done that and conquered the cravings, can you consider reintroducing it at a moderate level. It's much easier to do this when it's not even available to you, especially at the beginning, when the habit and cravings are still embedded.
  • Ge0rgiana
    Ge0rgiana Posts: 1,649 Member
    Have you ever had your blood sugar tested?
  • JossFit
    JossFit Posts: 588 Member
    Start yourself on a new habit. Rather than coming home and eating something, how about taking a shower as soon as you get in? Clean a room besides the kitchen? Make a cup of tea or do some yoga?

    The trick might be replacing that food habit with an entirely different activity alltogether, rather than trying to eat something 'healthier'.
  • Johanne1957
    Johanne1957 Posts: 167 Member
    I used to do the same thing....

    I changed my eating plan...I now eat 6 small meals a day so when I get home, I am not famished and that gives me time to prepare a good, healthy meal without munching...

    Also...prepare good munchies ahead like raw vegetables or even a veggie soup...like a 'cream' of broccoli soup (no cream of course!...lol)...that always 'fools' my tummy in thinking I just had a nice satisfying meal but it's about 75 calories...or less!!...

    I've been doing this for just a little 2 weeks and have lost 3.3lbs so far...

    Good luck!
  • chezjuan
    chezjuan Posts: 747 Member
    If you can't get the food out of the house, and the other people in the house won't compromise on the type of snacks you keep around, you could buy yourself some healthy snacks and go to them instead of the junk drawer. You can also force yourself to log your daily snack before you eat it -Seeing the calories that the less healthy snacks will take may make it easier to limit your intake or avoid the food altogether and eat a healthier item.
  • My son does have healthy treats but we keep it in the snack draw as then he feels he's getting a treat... this was our way of getting him to have healthy snacks - however this is the same place I've given my partner as her designated snack / rubbish drawer.

    Has anyone got some good snack ideas that may help??
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    I get into "binge mode" as well, quite often. I try to immediately text/call/get in touch somehow with my fiance and get him to talk me out of it or say something positive. Have a support person. I can't get rid of the binge food, because he and his son eat it, but we can moderate the behavior. I realize that I can't treat the food as "bad". It gives the food too much power over me. I need to recognize that it's ME, not the food that has the problem, and I can't "blame" the food. Avoiding the food tends to just mean I'm avoiding the problem. I'm trying to break the cycle myself. It's hard, but if you have good support, you'll make it.
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
    Yeah I would do that if my partner didn't eat it... My partner isn't what I call an healthy eater. We have a junk food draw as that was my way of minimizing where I saw the crap food. My son also has snacks in the drawer.
    Having excess junk food in your home isn't doing anyone any favors. Kids don't NEED all that crap in their diets..it just establishes bad habits for their lifetime, and if your partner wants it, let him/her take it to work and keep it there!

    Ask your family to help you by reducing the amount of things you can't control yourself with. Find junk food that they like, and you don't?

  • I started my first response before yours got posted, so it wasn't a matter of me ignoring your followup. It just wasn't there when I wrote what I wrote.

    That said, I stand by what I've said. Additionally, talk to your partner about your struggles and try to get them to work with you. They may not even know they're currently part of the problem. You don't have to do this alone, and you'll be more likely to be successful if you have some support from the people you live with.

    If they are really stubborn, tell them it's a temporary thing, until you can kick the cravings. Then you can reintroduce their favorite snacks occasionally. In the meantime, they can keep it at work, or somewhere you can't get to.

    Changing your diet, especially something like this, isn't that much different from trying to quit any other addiction - you can't just "moderate" the thing you're addicted to. You have to stop it completely. Only once you've done that and conquered the cravings, can you consider reintroducing it at a moderate level. It's much easier to do this when it's not even available to you, especially at the beginning, when the habit and cravings are still embedded.

    Haha funny thing is I work with substance misuse addiction... not so easy when looking at yourself ... lol
  • jenf235
    jenf235 Posts: 157 Member
    I live alone so I just keep things out of the house that I know I can't resist. Maybe you could put a sticky note on the snacks that you run to, and put a motivational saying on it. Maybe that would help you to stop and think about if you really want that snack. I have a friend who put a picture on her fridge and she said she looks at that before she opens the door and thinks about if she is really hungry or just bored. To my surprise, the picture she used was my "Before and In progress" picture! knowing that she did that makes me think about what I eat even more now, because I want to get to my goal so I can give her an updated picture!
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    My son does have healthy treats but we keep it in the snack draw as then he feels he's getting a treat... this was our way of getting him to have healthy snacks - however this is the same place I've given my partner as her designated snack / rubbish drawer.

    Has anyone got some good snack ideas that may help??

    (For the sweet tooth)
    Grapes
    Apples
    Pineapples
    Strawberries
    Blueberries
    Raspberries
    Bananas
    Oranges
    Pears
    1oz dark chocolate (the darker the better, 75-85% tends to be pretty good without being too bitter)

    (For actual hunger)
    Yogurt (could be both, really, just watch the sugar content)
    Peanut butter or some other nut butter (watch the additives)
    A slice of bacon and an egg
    Bulletproof coffee
    Avocado
    Carrots/celery and cream cheese/hummus
  • How about changing the habit?
    You said you come home from work and basically head for a snack. How about heading for a walk?

    Instead of going in the house as soon as you get home, keep a pair of walking shoes and an apple in the car and go for a short walk (15 min) - eat your apple while you are out on your stroll - before you go in the house. This will get you a snack, bit of physical activity, and it will give you time to clear your head before you go in.

    I have the same problem - I want to head for food when I come in the door. Even with healthy food in the house, I feel like a can eat a whole meal before I get dinner. Going for a walk gives me time to gain control before I walk in the kitchen.

    Don't fool yourself either into feeling like you need to run in the house and get dinner/laundry/housecleaning etc. done - take 15 minutes for you.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member

    I started my first response before yours got posted, so it wasn't a matter of me ignoring your followup. It just wasn't there when I wrote what I wrote.

    That said, I stand by what I've said. Additionally, talk to your partner about your struggles and try to get them to work with you. They may not even know they're currently part of the problem. You don't have to do this alone, and you'll be more likely to be successful if you have some support from the people you live with.

    If they are really stubborn, tell them it's a temporary thing, until you can kick the cravings. Then you can reintroduce their favorite snacks occasionally. In the meantime, they can keep it at work, or somewhere you can't get to.

    Changing your diet, especially something like this, isn't that much different from trying to quit any other addiction - you can't just "moderate" the thing you're addicted to. You have to stop it completely. Only once you've done that and conquered the cravings, can you consider reintroducing it at a moderate level. It's much easier to do this when it's not even available to you, especially at the beginning, when the habit and cravings are still embedded.

    Haha funny thing is I work with substance misuse addiction... not so easy when looking at yourself ... lol

    Well, isn't the first step in most of the programs something along the lines of "admitting you have a problem"? It's often the hardest precisely because you have to look at yourself and admit that you need to make a change. :)
  • Any suggestions on how to change habits... Everyday I ruin my really good diet as soon as I walk through the door at home. I instantly feel hungry and go for rubbish junk sugary foods. It clicked today that I've actually done this since I was a young child coming home from school... I'd always have a snack as soon as I've walked through the door but since the age of probably around 12/13 this has become a mini binge. Every day I say I won't today but even though I do amazingly throughout the day as soon as I walk through that door I fail... Any suggestions on how to address this???

    Help please....

    I think the fact that you figured this out is really big! Your brain may be telling you it's ready for a new routine!!

    I am starting to find that I can wait until dinner to eat -- that being hungry until then is okay -- that I really won't starve, you know? But the key seems to be remembering that BEFORE grabbing something unhealthy right away without thinking! These old habits are really ingrained and will take time to be lost. Hang in there and keep trying!
  • I call my lack of self control my inner brat, I gave her a name: Veruka after the brat in Willy Wonka. I read about this on another web site and I believe there is a whole book on the subject. Anyway, when ever Veruka begins to throw a hissy the adult me has a mental conversation in attempts to calm her down. I attempt to negotiate (if you take a walk with the dogs you can have that for dessert) or you can have three bites but you must get up and walk away (change the laundry over, feed the cat, wipe the bathroom mirror etc. ) between each bite. I know it sounds crazy, but whenI separate myself from myr cravings it seems to give me more control. Good luck :)
  • I call my lack of self control my inner brat, I gave her a name: Veruka after the brat in Willy Wonka. I read about this on another web site and I believe there is a whole book on the subject. Anyway, when ever Veruka begins to throw a hissy the adult me has a mental conversation in attempts to calm her down. I attempt to negotiate (if you take a walk with the dogs you can have that for dessert) or you can have three bites but you must get up and walk away (change the laundry over, feed the cat, wipe the bathroom mirror etc. ) between each bite. I know it sounds crazy, but whenI separate myself from myr cravings it seems to give me more control. Good luck :)

    Thats really good!! good idea... I like it =) will try this.
  • reasg3911
    reasg3911 Posts: 4
    I don't know if it's at all mental for you, but I know that I tend to eat what I've been thinking about eating. If I start to think about what sweets I want to eat when I get home for school or work, it's pretty much a sure thing that I'm going to eat sweets. If I have something else I'm planning to eat and I think about that instead, it's a pretty sure thing that I'll end up eating that. It's sure sounds easier than it is though. I only managed to stop overeating about a week ago, and I really couldn't tell you what finally triggered this change. Good luck!

    Thank you for your helpful suggestion... will definitely try giving this a go... do you have alternatives to eat?

    Nothing in particular. I've just been trying to eat smaller meals every three hours, whether I find myself feeling particularly hungry or not. It's definitely helpful to try to plan ahead (at least somewhat) for the day. For me, it's easier to stop thinking about sweets and think about what I planned to eat than to try to come up with a meal/snack to replace my sweets craving.