low carb, high fat

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  • Lmns218
    Lmns218 Posts: 155
    I have high cholesterol so I don't think eating 65% of my calories from fat is not a good thing for me. I think I was eating too many carbs (MFP sets it at 55%) so I lowered it to 40%c 30%f 30%p and see if the up in protein will help my weight loss as I have been stalling on the scale for a few weeks.
  • JisatsuHoshi
    JisatsuHoshi Posts: 421 Member
    Did a ketogenic diet for 2 months then switched to a cyclical Ketogenic diet. So 5 months worth of time...

    I ate at:

    65% Fats, 30% Proteins, 5% carbs (Fiber don't count)

    then on 24 hour refeed period I aim for 1000g of carbs

    Ketogenic diet is a lifestyle change. Tried switching back to carbs a few months, but didn't like it...
  • eazy_
    eazy_ Posts: 516 Member
    Got started with keto on 1/17/2013 at 345 pounds. This morning I was 263 pounds. I was much more faithful to it in the beginning. Lately I have been eating/logging ice cream and cookies and popcorn.

    Has worked very well for me. Meat and veggies and water.

    edit to add I do not exercise at all.
  • StacyReneO
    StacyReneO Posts: 317 Member
    Works for me. Got my 6-pack back by eating reallllllly high-fat, and my bloodwork is much better than it was when I was also very lean but ate a more typical low-fat/high-carb diet. If you look at the science of how insulin works and what raises it and what that does to a body, it's sort of a no-brainer (though I was into the calories in-calories out dogma, thought "low-carbers" were totally crazy, and high fat would kill ya for years...it took an initial jolt of "Wtf??" and then a LOT of research to change my very ingrained thinking, but the numbers don't lie.)

    This. I am one who believes it's not just about how many calories you take in...it matter what you eat. I am a high fat and have never been healthier. Of course I have the occasional carb-cheat (popcorn!!) but most of the time I can keep myself in moderate ketosis with a high fast diet.
  • REDI4CHANGE60
    REDI4CHANGE60 Posts: 170
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  • tabik30
    tabik30 Posts: 443
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  • Joehenny
    Joehenny Posts: 1,222 Member
    I am like princessputz, counting calories has never worked for me. I had 1200-1600 calories every day for two months with exercise and lost only 5 lbs. It was beyond discouraging.

    If people are insulin resistant simply counting calories wont always work. I know I needed to seriously avoid sugars (even from fruit) and watch my carbs. By doing this my body will use my fat reserves for energy instead of glucose. When I eat carbs/sugars, it basically stops glucagon from working. Glucagon stimulates breakdown of glycogen stored in the liver. So the way I understand it, if we are eating sugars and carbs, we are never impacting our stored fat.

    Several people also follow a keto style diet to "starve" breast cancer and to limit or avoid seizures for people with epilepsy. Just make sure you get 20 carbs a day from veggies! My food log isn't the best to follow, I need more lean proteins and carbs from veggies and not from my coffee creamer... :/

    You can starve cancer?




    Wow
  • fadedflower79
    fadedflower79 Posts: 80 Member
    I am like princessputz, counting calories has never worked for me. I had 1200-1600 calories every day for two months with exercise and lost only 5 lbs. It was beyond discouraging.

    If people are insulin resistant simply counting calories wont always work. I know I needed to seriously avoid sugars (even from fruit) and watch my carbs. By doing this my body will use my fat reserves for energy instead of glucose. When I eat carbs/sugars, it basically stops glucagon from working. Glucagon stimulates breakdown of glycogen stored in the liver. So the way I understand it, if we are eating sugars and carbs, we are never impacting our stored fat.

    Several people also follow a keto style diet to "starve" breast cancer and to limit or avoid seizures for people with epilepsy. Just make sure you get 20 carbs a day from veggies! My food log isn't the best to follow, I need more lean proteins and carbs from veggies and not from my coffee creamer... :/

    You can starve cancer?




    Wow



    Anticancer Res. 2010 May;30(5):1863-8.
    Metabolism in cancer patients.
    Arends J.
    Source
    Tumor Biology Center, Freiburg University, Freiburg, Germany. arends@tumorbio.uni-freiburg.de
    Abstract
    Today still only 50% of newly diagnosed cancers can be cured. While molecular mechanisms of cell proliferation are being studied intensively, comparably little research energy, however, has been spent on unravelling metabolic interactions of cancer and host tissues. Evidence is accumulating that systemic as well as local metabolic patterns have considerable impact on tumour growth, as well as on body composition and organ functions. This may lead to new treatments in oncology. Cancer development - and recurrence - may be inhibited by physical activity, as well as by avoiding obesity, the metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance. Antineoplastic treatments induce reductions in nutritional intake and require individually tailored nutritional support. New concepts are being considered to metabolically starve or reprogram cancer cells. During palliative treatment of progressive tumours, it should be good clinical practice to avoid or treat malnutrition and chronic inflammatory states. At late stages, the primary goal should be symptomatic relief and attention to subjective individual needs.
    PMID: 20592393 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
  • xoemmytee
    xoemmytee Posts: 162 Member
    I do low carb, high fat because it is the first diet I have been able to stick to. The amount of hunger control it gives me is empowering. I can eat one or two times a day or six times a day. I never get a sugar crash which is awesome. I never really craved sugary foods so it was pretty easy to do after a week of adjusting. I've lost 15 pounds so far. I have lost it pretty slowly since I went a period without counting calories. Feel free to browse my diary, though I am on vacation and indulging in my guilty pleasure, ice cream.
  • pippishortstockings
    pippishortstockings Posts: 18 Member
    I don't know if this is too late, but I am doing low carb, then regular fat. I don't want anything but my carbs, my sodium and my fiber (which I try to eat as much of as possible while keeping my net carbs below 20) and have seen amazing results. You should pick up the Atkins - New Diet Revolution book. I read it cover to cover twice, the science makes sense and it works.

    What you need to be cautious of is yoyo dieting with carbs. If you are going to yoyo, then not only will you put that weight back on plus more, but you are seriously damaging your heart. Once your body is in ketosis, the fat that would usually go through your blood stream and provide food for your cells gets filtered right out. If you yoyo, and happen to eat higher fat, then it all sticks to your heart.

    Talk to your doctor and figure out a good diet plan. If low carb worked for you before, then pick up the Atkins book and check out one of my favorite websites, www.sugarfreesheila.com
  • jen_fitnhappy
    jen_fitnhappy Posts: 102 Member
    Interesting. Bumping to follow.
  • pluckabee
    pluckabee Posts: 346 Member
    its actually 230g protein 100g fat for a lean mass of 160 and with the weight coming off i ll be reducing it acordingly.

    All this talk of keto and low carb seems ill thoughtout as low carb (anywhere up to 100g ) is nothing like below 20g and full ketosis and you wont benefit with increased energy and escape the drained feeling until you get down around 20g, nor will your body give you a high from BHP nor will you lose the weight you could.

    I completely disagree.

    While eating around 50- 100g of carbs a day and I feel absolutely great and have loads of energy and lost around 10lbs a month for 4 months. It took a couple of months before I experienced the symptoms of ketosis (crazy energy boosts, weird pee, weird breath) but now I get them all the time.

    20g carbs isn't a magical number that gives you all the 'true benefits' of a low carb diet, it's just the level that will jumpstart you into ketosis. Slowly lowering my carbs to my current level was really easy for me and really beneficial.

    Also, too low carb and I do start to feel a bit rubbish. I recently lowered them even further (I don't know why... What I was doing was working so well!!) and haven't been doing as well and now have to slowly bring them back up.

    I think everyone has a macronutrient ratio that works well for them. You just have to find it and if you are doing well DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING just because someone who doesn't know you told you to eat or not eat something.
  • Debbiedebbiey
    Debbiedebbiey Posts: 824 Member
    Just getting started on this, good info.....so....bump !
  • carissar7
    carissar7 Posts: 183 Member
    I was in ketosis for about 4 months and lost 20 lbs pretty easily, probably because it was hard for me to eat more than 1450 cals a day- which was a pretty big deficit considering my TDEE is 2050. Once I started lifting weights more regularly, I couldn't really get to the last rep in the last set sometimes and found that I had no energy to even make it inside the gym some nights. I also do aerial acrobatics 3 nights a week and need even more energy on my training days. I knew something wasn't right and have since decided to up my carb intake so that instead of being keto, I am still lower carb (around 80-120g) whereas before I was averaging at 20g. I've also upped my protein to make sure I eat at around 1g per 1lb of body weight. I still eat moderate to high fat, because I love bacon and avocados and cook pretty much everything with ghee. Yet since switching my macros to a more balanced ratio 20/40/40, as well as an additional 400 calories to what I was previously eating, I feel a lot better and am starting to see a little weight loss again! So for me, ketosis was not sustainable longterm. Of course, this all depends on the person and your individual goals.
  • ola4ola
    ola4ola Posts: 4 Member
    witchy_wife wrote: »
    I tend to follow a keto diet, I have PCOS and find when I eat carbs, I find it so so difficult to stick to a calorie goal. Even things like carbs from fruits and starchy veg kicks off my cravings. It's not impossible for me to lose weight with a low cal diet, just it feels very tough and like hard work for the results I get.

    Yes, when you start eating low carb you lose a lot of water. It's not unusual to see between 5-10lbs in your first week or so. If you did it for a week then started eating carbs again that weight would mostly go back on. I think to have success on this diet you have to think in the long term.

    Losing weight doesn't come from low carb, it comes from reduced calories, as with all diets. But for me, eating a keto diet really helps stop cravings for junk and fast food, the food I eat fills me up and keeps me feeling satisfied. So all this helps me to stick to around 1600-1800 calories a day (a level that I lose weight at).

    Some people have lost a heck of a lot of weight following this kind of diet. It can work very well for some people, but it certainly isn't needed to lose weight for everyone. I really wish I was one of those people who can eat porridge and fruits and throw in the odd pizza or cupcake and still manage to stay within my calories and lose weight. But I am not, it seems whenever I eat things like that I just start craving more and more, it's like someone flipped a greedy switch!! And I can try and ignore the cravings but I just end up feeling miserable. So for me, I think a keto style diet will be a long term part of my life.

    This is sooooo like me, eating dessert even low calorie onesones makes my appetite go crazy :-\

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