Hit a wall/plateau/whatever you want to call it!

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Folks I seem to have stopped losing weight and hovering around 208-211lbs for a few weeks now, I'm 6ft 2" and 29 years old.

I'm eating about 1200-1500 calories per day but also burning off around 500-750 in exercise, I don't feel hungry but am I eating too little?!

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  • ladynocturne
    ladynocturne Posts: 865 Member
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    Yes, you are eating too little.

    You maintain your current weight of 208lbs on 2525 calories per day.

    If you eat 1500 and exercise off 500 calories your net intake is 1000 calories a day, you are trying to maintain a 1500+ calorie deficit daily.

    Your estimated BMR is: 1,978 calories/day this is how many calories your body would burn if it was a in a coma.

    It is not recommended to eat below ones' BMR, this increases the amount of muscle lost during weight reduction
  • simmo0020
    simmo0020 Posts: 10 Member
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    Yes, you are eating too little.

    You maintain your current weight of 208lbs on 2525 calories per day.

    If you eat 1500 and exercise off 500 calories your net intake is 1000 calories a day, you are trying to maintain a 1500 calorie deficit daily.

    Jeez,

    I'm seriously not feeling like eating anything more than I'm currently eating and do not relish the idea of stopping exercise either!

    But if this is what is stopping me from losing then I think eating more is the option I will take as I love exercising now
  • ladynocturne
    ladynocturne Posts: 865 Member
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    There are a lot of people who make protein shakes on this website, plenty of recipes, some are upwards of 1000 calories each. If you aren't feeling hungry, sometimes drinking calories is easier.
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
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    Just want to throw this out here.... a few weeks is not a plateau. Weight fluctuation is completely normal.
  • greatwestescape
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    I'm 27, hovering around 220 (23% body fat), 6'2 and same build as you. Your BMR is a lot higher than 1978/day -- it's closer to ~2100/day.

    1200-1500 will plateau you any day of the week. The 500-750/day of exercise, you need to subtract ~100-110 per hour so if that's over an hour 400-650/day. Saying this, your body uses around ~2500 to ~3000/day depending on what you do for work or if it's your day off. Adding in exercise, your body uses most likely around ~3200 to ~3300 to maintain it's weight.

    You should be eating no less then 2000 calories/day. On days you stay at home and do absolutely nothing you can drop down to 1800.

    Got it. 2000 calories/day

    I tried keeping my calories at 1600/day and i plateaued hard core. As soon as I boosted it up to 2000/day im back on track.

    Also dependent on sodium intake, types of foods, stress level etc ...someone our size can fluctuate 6lb give or take in a day.
  • simmo0020
    simmo0020 Posts: 10 Member
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    How can I best post up my diary on this page so people can see?
  • greatwestescape
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    Settings (Upper right corner) --> Diary options --> public
  • simmo0020
    simmo0020 Posts: 10 Member
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    Settings (Upper right corner) --> Diary options --> public

    Cool can people please take a look for me?

    Code 1984

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/simmo0020
  • QuilterInVA
    QuilterInVA Posts: 672 Member
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    Your breakfast has far too many carbs. You need to get some protein there. Too much reliance on protein shakes. Eat real meat, fish, poultry and you['ll have better nutrition and more calories. Add some veggies to tea.
  • ladynocturne
    ladynocturne Posts: 865 Member
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    You've only logged 10 days out of the last 30. How are you sure how many calories you've been eating and burning for 3 weeks?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Folks I seem to have stopped losing weight and hovering around 208-211lbs for a few weeks now, I'm 6ft 2" and 29 years old.

    I'm eating about 1200-1500 calories per day but also burning off around 500-750 in exercise, I don't feel hungry but am I eating too little?!

    Assuming you're accurate with your intake, you can prob get away with eating a lot more
  • crimsontech
    crimsontech Posts: 234 Member
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    You will find a lot of people on here will immediately tell you to "eat more", thinking that it works for everyone. (It doesn't.)

    But what I can tell you is that there's NO HARM in playing with your caloric intake, especially when you hit a wall. I have seen SO MANY times when someone (even me) will have a spike day or two, or even a week, and it busts the plateau. I have found in my own body that if I've been at a large deficit for a while (which you definitely are at), that the body needs a good "refeeding" every 1-2 weeks to remind it that you are not in a famine and that there's no reason to hold onto all this pesky stored fat.

    Worst case scenario, you put on a pound of fat, 2 pounds of water weight, and lose it all quickly the first week you go back to the "old ways".

    Many of us have a fear of "putting all the weight back on" if we cheat at all, but if you tell yourself from the very beginning that this is a CONTROLLED refeeding/calorie boost with a specific time limit and goal, you can get right back into the bigger deficit.

    I do this when I go on vacations, for example. I've lost 15 pounds this month, and next week I'm going to Vegas for 4 days. I am losing weight to enjoy my life, and I will always enjoy food, so I'm going to enjoy the wonderful cuisines available in Vegas, come back either 2 pounds heavier or 2 pounds lighter (yeah, sometimes I lose weight on vacation even without watching my eating), and go right back to "the plan".

    Also, if you're not already, it might be time to add some weight training to your regimen since you're close to goal weight. You can definitely eat more when you're doing that so that you can put on some muscle and get the "ripped" look that's great with the ladies. :P
  • greatwestescape
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    I can agree with some parts of your post & not others. The psychology part yes, the against eating more calories no.

    If you do the math he is between 1700 - 2000 calories below his maintenance! TDEE -55% to -62%, your body will react after so long. TDEE - 40% max should be your limit for long term success. You will still be below your TDEE by significant amounts. However, based on your weight, height and AGE, a good weight for you is 190-195 then you can start with resistance training. Better diet is needed to maintain muscle growth. You're almost there but you need to be smart about it!

    You need to LOG everything. Time and time again, the biggest correlation between long term weight loss & success is Locus of Control (believing you can change), food journals and lifestyle change. Log everything, every day and don't feel bad about it. If you're over you're over but you need to see your own pattern and figure out how to change it.

    This is how i look at lifestyle change
    -- Eat foods that make you feel alive -- if you feel sluggish after eating something, switch it up
    -- Get proper amounts of fruits & veggies every day. It doesn't matter if you're over your sugar limit if it's coming from hard fruits!
    -- Eating junk sometimes is good for the mind, if you're healthy most of the time and go out the pub and have chicken wings and fries who cares but don't fall into the trap of "it's my vacation" or "it's my cheat day" if you want to achieve your goal. Once you've reached your goal, you can figure that out.
    -- Do what makes you feel good, if you hate the gym, find some activity that you like & enjoy
    -- Don't sacrifice your social life to be thin but don't engage engage in activities with people who affect you negatively because of their bad habits, (don't hate them, just learn to adapt...if they're going out for a bad dinner, show up 20 minutes late after they have ordered)
    -- Love yourself. Take photos once a week, and stand infront of that mirror and tell yourself you are looking thinner, sexier or whatever. Confidence is key my friend. Without confidence you can be the most beautiful guy in the world and still feel like ****.

    You will find a lot of people on here will immediately tell you to "eat more", thinking that it works for everyone. (It doesn't.)

    But what I can tell you is that there's NO HARM in playing with your caloric intake, especially when you hit a wall. I have seen SO MANY times when someone (even me) will have a spike day or two, or even a week, and it busts the plateau. I have found in my own body that if I've been at a large deficit for a while (which you definitely are at), that the body needs a good "refeeding" every 1-2 weeks to remind it that you are not in a famine and that there's no reason to hold onto all this pesky stored fat.

    Worst case scenario, you put on a pound of fat, 2 pounds of water weight, and lose it all quickly the first week you go back to the "old ways".

    Many of us have a fear of "putting all the weight back on" if we cheat at all, but if you tell yourself from the very beginning that this is a CONTROLLED refeeding/calorie boost with a specific time limit and goal, you can get right back into the bigger deficit.

    I do this when I go on vacations, for example. I've lost 15 pounds this month, and next week I'm going to Vegas for 4 days. I am losing weight to enjoy my life, and I will always enjoy food, so I'm going to enjoy the wonderful cuisines available in Vegas, come back either 2 pounds heavier or 2 pounds lighter (yeah, sometimes I lose weight on vacation even without watching my eating), and go right back to "the plan".

    Also, if you're not already, it might be time to add some weight training to your regimen since you're close to goal weight. You can definitely eat more when you're doing that so that you can put on some muscle and get the "ripped" look that's great with the ladies. :P
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
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    yes your eating too little, but no that should not result in a weight loss plateau

    the point of not 'eatting too little' is to hang on to your lean body mass. eat to little and you'll lose that quickly along with body fat (even if you sensibly but at a defecit you'll likely lose lean body mass).

    The 'starvation mode' is a laughable myth really.

    For compairison, i'm 5'8 160 ish and i can easily lose weight eating 2100 or more depending on what i'm doing.
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
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    going to throw this out there... if you were losing weight fast and then you 'plateaued', it could have been that you were losing a lot of lean body mass and then you hit a point where the calories in could sustain that reduced lean body mass and hence weight loss curtailed.

    note that one can get stronger (bench press or squat go up) while losing lean body mass, thus giving you the psychological illusion that your gaining muscle or at least maintaining.
  • greatwestescape
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    Starvation mode is not a myth it's just over stated and grossly exaggerated just like 'cellulite' or 'weight loss success' or 'bmi' or 'sugars are killing us' or really everything to do with weight loss. If you eat way below TDEE - 50%, after 6 or 7 weeks your metabolism is going to slow down but your body will adapt. You will plateau but you should still lose weight if you under by that much. Most research indicates it only happens with glycogen levels are kept abnormally low for long periods. People have lived for months on TDEE - 70%, have not died or wasted away but they were weak and skeletons eventually.

    Starvation mode is just exploited as being "OMG you're going to burn all muscle" same with the myth about fat burning zones, blah blah blah blah

    It is my personal belief that most people plateau because
    1) They over eat over the course of a week or month and don't realize how much calories they take in
    -- one day of 2500 calories over will sacrifice a lot
    -- most people don't realize that 450calorie subway sub is actually 650 calories because of cheese (+80 calories), 1 sauce (+100 calories), + mayo (+100 calories) etc
    2) They eat the same calories but have drastically reduced physical activity
    3) They are yoyo dieters instead of making lifestyle change
    4) They over estimate calorie burn -- if you burn 500 calories on a tread mill over an hour, you would have normally burned 60-110 calories that hour anyways + the calorie count is prob. over stated by 10-20% but they compensate by eating more

    rant rant rant rant
    yes your eating too little, but no that should not result in a weight loss plateau

    the point of not 'eatting too little' is to hang on to your lean body mass. eat to little and you'll lose that quickly along with body fat (even if you sensibly but at a defecit you'll likely lose lean body mass).

    The 'starvation mode' is a laughable myth really.

    For compairison, i'm 5'8 160 ish and i can easily lose weight eating 2100 or more depending on what i'm doing.
  • greatwestescape
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    going to throw this out there... if you were losing weight fast and then you 'plateaued', it could have been that you were losing a lot of lean body mass and then you hit a point where the calories in could sustain that reduced lean body mass and hence weight loss curtailed.

    note that one can get stronger (bench press or squat go up) while losing lean body mass, thus giving you the psychological illusion that your gaining muscle or at least maintaining.

    +1 for that :)
  • simmo0020
    simmo0020 Posts: 10 Member
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    Some helpful replies thank you.

    I only started tracking on here again about 10 days ago that's why there is limited data available.

    I decided to go for a few beers last night and ate a pizza, about 700 calories over for the day, I don't feel bad about it, quite happy I did it actually.

    I feel I'm worrying about it too much all to be fair, I'm also gonna start swimming again but if I consume more calories then my other values will be over.

    I thought my breakfast was quite healthy, weetabix and skimmed milk?