Does this sound like a plan to get in to Ketosis

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  • ekfulton
    ekfulton Posts: 24 Member
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    Go to bodybuilding.com. Click on Forums, then Nutrition, then Keto. Keto is a very regular diet of many bodybuilders. You won't smell like cat pee and you will not destroy your body.
  • KarenisPaleo
    KarenisPaleo Posts: 169 Member
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    OMG this again?

    Google. Start there.
  • icelanski
    icelanski Posts: 15
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    why am i being attacked? i though this forum was for help im having trouble following how to do keto sorry if im plucking nerves it that 150g was a typo
  • BarackMeLikeAHurricane
    BarackMeLikeAHurricane Posts: 3,400 Member
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    Go to the reddit link. The r/keto FAQ is very detailed.
  • icelanski
    icelanski Posts: 15
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    i have it saved will read it
  • Going4Lean
    Going4Lean Posts: 1,077 Member
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    How do you get into ketosis on 150g of carbs in the first place . Trust me you not in ketosis on 150g of carbs daily. No chance

    I think she meant 150g of protein and 25g of carbs
  • dawnoverb
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    I am on a dr supervised ketosis diet. It is super strict, and must be monitored by a dr. I have labs drawn every two weeks to make sure my electrolytes are ok. Not recommended if you are not under a doctors care! It's really hard and dangerous if you try doing it alone. Check with your dr first!
  • jaspn1981
    jaspn1981 Posts: 24 Member
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    You are talking about ketoacidosis, which unless the OP is a Diabetic. Has NO REASON to worry about it.

    As Far as information about the Keto diet. I would Highly recommend looking up Dr. Eric Westman MD, and Andreas Eenfeldt, MD. A Book called The New Atkins Diet prettymuch puts to bed all the bad information floating around about Keto.

    A lot of these posts I'm reading here about Keto, Make me cringe. So much mis-information that it makes me sick. Dangerous? Just stop it people. If you don't know what you're talking about, stop posting on the forums.

    I can reference over 50 scientific studies that show the proven effects of Keto. Results that exceed that of the traditional low fat low calorie diet.

    Here is something for those of you too lazy to do any leg work:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSLf4bzAyOM Dr. Eric Westman
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    http://www.dietdoctor.com/ ---- Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt website/resource for Low carb & Keto
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-jBRmQVOuk ---- ( Watch all the segments )
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    http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259 --- ( READ IT and thank me later)
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDneyrETR2o --- Gary Taubes lecture on Why we get fat


    Anyone who wants to talk about Keto. Feel free to Send me message.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    How many grams of carbs does it take to go into Ketosis?

    I eat around 100 grams of carbs a day and don't want to go into Ketosis..

    universally acknowledged that for almost anyone 20 grams or under in carbs will get you there- women can get there starting around under 40.

    It's different for each person and there is no solid data that a balanced keto diet is harmful. I have a friend who has been keto for months and quiet happy- although yes some people WILL start to smell- it's different for each person- along with the quantity of carbs- there is no magic set number.

    Also low carb /=/ keto.

    I'm on a low carb diet (low carb is described as being 20% or less is carbs) and I haven't been keto really. I usually am aiming for 90 at 20% of my diet and it's DEFINITELY not keto.

    Someday's I'm under 50 but not many.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDneyrETR2o --- Gary Taubes lecture on Why we get fat


    Anyone who wants to talk about Keto. Feel free to Send me message.


    A bunch of youtube videos?
    Taubes?

    Seriously?
  • jaspn1981
    jaspn1981 Posts: 24 Member
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    "A bunch of youtube videos?
    Taubes?

    Seriously?"

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    I would have added the word Or in between each and every one of those studies. But I really Dont have to prove my point to that degree.

    Your turn... I'll wait.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    wall-o-references.

    even worse than wall-o-text.
  • jaspn1981
    jaspn1981 Posts: 24 Member
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    wall-o-references.

    even worse than wall-o-text.

    I know right, wall of validating scientific information is such a terrible thing it... Life is so hard.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    Your turn... I'll wait.



    Wait for what? All I did was point out the fact that those are terrible sources. Which you then corrected. So, thank you for that. A little overboard, but sure.
  • jaspn1981
    jaspn1981 Posts: 24 Member
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    Your turn... I'll wait.



    Wait for what? All I did was point out the fact that those are terrible sources. Which you then corrected. So, thank you for that. A little overboard, but sure.

    I didn't go overboard those sources are the same sources AND some. Taubes uses the SAME resources. Dr. Eric Westman uses the Same resources. Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt uses the SAME resources.

    I just dumbed it down, so people didn't have to read scientific research manuals / articles. And could watch / listen to the information, which you seemed to have a problem with.

    So please, don't just say my sources are terrible. Use sources of your own to invalidate them. Until then stop posting on forums spreading bad information when you're not siting ANY credible scientific research yourself.

    Thanks.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    I didn't go overboard those sources are the same sources AND some. Taubes uses the SAME resources. Dr. Eric Westman uses the Same resources. Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt uses the SAME resources.

    I just dumbed it down, so people didn't have to read scientific research manuals / articles. And could watch / listen to the information, which you seemed to have a problem with.

    So please, don't just say my sources are terrible. Use sources of your own to invalidate them. Until then stop posting on forums spreading bad information when you're not siting ANY credible scientific research yourself.

    Thanks.


    Dude, step back and don't get so defensive. Not once did I disagree with your take on the matter. Just your presentation.


    As Richard Pryor might say, have a coke and a smile.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    wall-o-references.

    even worse than wall-o-text.

    I know right, wall of validating scientific information is such a terrible thing it... Life is so hard.

    F.W.P.
    LMAO.

    it is a rough life- however will I survive ;)
  • jaspn1981
    jaspn1981 Posts: 24 Member
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    [/quote]
    Wait for what? All I did was point out the fact that those are terrible sources. Which you then corrected. So, thank you for that. A little overboard, but sure.
    [/quote]

    So tell me how youtube videos from Eric Westman MD, a Duke medical researcher, and Andreas Eenfeldt MD are terrible resources.

    Are they not allowed to make videos? I'd really like to understand how you can say these are terrible sources. Taubes? His work uses some of the same studies I linked..... So whats the problem?

    And I'm not defensive. I just don't like people talking out their *kitten* on forums when people are looking for good info. There are a lot of people out there who need help, and you come along, and try to discredit these men who have spent years doing this work. If you can not provide info to back up why you say these sources are bad. Then stay quiet.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    If you can't understand the difference between a video and an actual study, I give up. You and your persecution complex win. Congratulations.
  • ngyoung
    ngyoung Posts: 311 Member
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    Daymn jaspn! talk about throwing the hammer down. I agree with you but you can calm down.

    The negatives that other are claiming are based on ketoacidosis not ketogenesis. I shouldn't have gone as far as saying the bad breathe was a myth but it is way overblown. If you are burning ketones as fuel you are not releasing them in your breathe, sweat, or urine. It is my understanding that there can be a transition period when your body is ramping up ketone production but isn't burning them yet at an efficient rate where you will expel more of them then normal.