Cardio vs weight training?

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  • SoulEater7
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    Oh for goodness sake.....no one can open their mouths on this site without a tout going crazy!!! Chill out will you. He has an opinion. He expressed it. You obviously do not share that opinion. Get over it!! Sheeesh, such a bunch of over sensitive moaners!!!

    Haha a comment like this requires a "like" button on MFP, I totally agree.

    I personally Hit the weights as hard as I can and finish with a light 100 cal cardio session, just enough to get my heart going, blood flowing but still light enough to hold a convo....if I had somebody to talk too lol.
  • BEEUK
    BEEUK Posts: 113
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    Jake - I was talking about my own personal experience, sorry wasn’t clear. If I eat completely clean, with no cheat meals and no alcohol then I could lift alone. However I want to actually enjoy my time on this planet so I factor in the naughty stuff and factor it back out with a few 45 minute jump-abouts a week.
  • Chadomaniac
    Chadomaniac Posts: 1,785 Member
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    BOTH
  • JakeBrownVB
    JakeBrownVB Posts: 399 Member
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    Jake - I was talking about my own personal experience, sorry wasn’t clear. If I eat completely clean, with no cheat meals and no alcohol then I could lift alone. However I want to actually enjoy my time on this planet so I factor in the naughty stuff and factor it back out with a few 45 minute jump-abouts a week.

    ahh fair nuff :D

    Probably the best reasoning I have ever heard for cardio
  • CindaWhite
    CindaWhite Posts: 104 Member
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    vs... everyone tries to find the shortcuts.

    AND

    A lot of people do try to find the shortcuts but this OP simply wanted to know which would be better use of his time. He titled the question VS but he asked whether to do one over the other or both and why.

    I think it is sad that one person chose to be rude and insulting and totally dominated this topic in a way that was not at all beneficial to the OP. As for myself I have not been at this long enough to give a beneficial piece of advice so I came here to see what I could learn. I learned I don't care for one members posts. How sad.

    If it is of any help my favorite answer was the first one given by lovelylela415.
  • JakeBrownVB
    JakeBrownVB Posts: 399 Member
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    This isn't the misc dude, chucking around the term *kitten* isn't going to go down well.

    hahaha yep I got that. off to the misc i go
  • Marks281172
    Marks281172 Posts: 127 Member
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    Couple of points.

    As an ex powerlifter that competed in the 120kg+ category, for a long time I held the belief that cardio/conditioning was pointless and would hamper my lifting. It was only when I started to realise that the legends of powerlifting all did some form of conditioning, be it hill sprints, sled pulls, prowler pushing etc that I started bringing it and saw massive benefits, I wasn't burning out after the Squat which helped my bench and DL hugely... and also manged to drop down a weight category. Which was a huge benefit as I was no longer competing against guys 30kg heavier than me.

    Weight lifting burns as many cals as cardio? Based on what? Im doing a 5x5 program to try and hold on to some strength at least while eating a deficit and I have HRM'd a session. Im currently at 110kg on my bench and 160kg on my Squat so not tiny numbers, but it still comes in under 400 cals burnt in an hour session (5x5 Squat,Bench,Mil Press,Row then some assistance work). And its known that a HRM will over estimate weight lifting due to the heart rate spikes while lifting. Running even at my slow 6mph pace, your still looking at 6-700 cals an hour.

    Weight lifting is my thing, I love it and fat or not quite so fat its something I always do and love.. but at the old age of 40 I now realise you need to take a bigger picture approach to thing and cardio definitely has its place.

    ...and cardio doesn't have to mean sitting on an exercise bike in a gym for 2 hours 5 days a week :)

    For best results, personally I say do both.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
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    Why this strange idea that you don't build muscle from cardio exercise. I don't know about most people but when I'm swimming I'm putting resistance on my muscles. When I'm running my legs are definitely getting the equivalent of weights trying to drag my 250 pound body along. Personally do what you enjoy. I do find the strange I'm right you're wrong attitude of Jake and some other lifting proponents rather childish. People should do the exercise that works for them. There is no right or wrong just what works for you personally be it cardio or lifting.
  • Marks281172
    Marks281172 Posts: 127 Member
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    Agree Doob, my quads got a lot thicker and certainly more defined when I started running. Some of that will be fat loss of course but my outer sweep definitely got out there more :)

    ..and im sure most bodybuilders would kill for the shoulders swimmers have.
  • peggymdellinger
    peggymdellinger Posts: 151 Member
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    Jake,

    spelling that word with a ph instead of an f will not work here.

    sorry, but you've discounted all credibility by doing that.

    I think, perhaps, that he simply can't spell judging by his misspelling of so many other words.... I love how he calls others "dumb" just after he spells lose with two o's. This is just one more poster to ignore when it comes to overall physical fitness.
  • lovelylela415
    lovelylela415 Posts: 91 Member
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    circling back -

    agree with everyone. it's not cardio "versus" weight training. Like all things in life, we benefit from balance. At least i'm finding that I do, because i got on the scale today to find i've lost 6 lbs, and my body fat percentage is now in "athletic" range!!

    seems that myfitnesspal deleted jake's post with "ph" instead of F - Thank you to the powers that be. I appreciate you looking out for us, because that was certainly unproductive.
  • Lizzymama4
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    Thanks for the info!!
  • kamccarter
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    If you're solely exercising for aesthetics, then fine, just do weights.

    But honestly, if you're at the gym anyway, wouldn't you want to reap the benefits from cardiovascular exercise? Aside from the increased calorie burn, you are strengthening your heart, lungs, brain, aside from the increase in strength in large muscle groups you apply. Let's also add the fact that your blood pumps more efficiently and reaches intrinsic muscles and capillaries that get the least nutrition during normal function.

    And I'm not just a cardio bunny, either. I lift.