Diet, exercise, plenty of water and still no results.

Hi everyone,


I was hoping some of you may be able to give me some advice or help.

For months now (4-5) I have been trying to loose weight but seeing no results. I eat around 1200-1300 calories per day and try to eat low fat, mainly protein no sugar etc... I go to the gym 5 times per week and for about 90 mins each session. I do a lot of cardio; running, spin, sweat and HIIT as well as strength and some weight training. I usually burn around 500-600 calories a session.

I have been to the doctors to check for hypothyroidism or insulin resistance but as I have no other symptoms it is unlikely that I have those.

I am 5ft5" and weight 57kg (125lbs) female and 23.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you x
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  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    This is a really common problem around here. A lot of us have found that eating 1200 calories while burning half of them in exercise just isn't enough and could stall out your weight loss. MFP's method expects you to log your exercise here and eat back some of the calories you're burning, with the caveat that some of the machines may be overestimating your burn if you're not using a heart rate monitor. Check to make sure you're actually logging your calories accurately (are you weighing/measuring all of your food?) and then try increasing your calories by a few hundred for a few weeks.
  • If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.
  • KristiRTT
    KristiRTT Posts: 346 Member
    If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.

    That's what I was thinking!!!
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.

    Pretty much. Have you tracked bf%?
  • Alwayssohungry
    Alwayssohungry Posts: 369 Member
    If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.

    Yup - but for the sake of being wrong - what is your goal ?
  • If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.

    Bingo.

    I'm 5'5 123 and my doctors have started giving me warning on losing any more.

    My measurements are 34 bust, 27 waist, 37 hips.

    How much are you looking to lose and what are your measurements? I assume you don't have any more than 5 pounds to lose.
  • DPernet
    DPernet Posts: 481 Member
    5'5'' and 125lb = Ideal. The only reason you should be looking to lose a couple more pounds is if you are Asian. otherwise stop trying :happy:

    If all you really want to do is tone up then I would suggest cutting back on the cardio and start lifting some more heavy weights.

    But to be honest, this as a 1st post and a profile with no friends...hmmmm :yawn:
  • LeanneGoingThin
    LeanneGoingThin Posts: 215 Member
    My best guess is that with all the cardio you are burning muscle because you don't have a lot of fat to lose. As a result, your metabolism slows and you don't lose weight.
  • Thanks for your replies so far. I know most would think I was at an ideal weight but this time last year I was 52kg and I would like to get back to that weigh as that's the weight I feel comfortable at.

    My measurement are 30, 27 and 34". And I would ideally like to loose two inches everywhere.

    This is my first post as I don't usually use these kinds of apps or websites but I'm getting pretty desperate and really would love some advice. I work out so hard and never give up but still achieving nothing.

    What is a bf%? And how do I track that.

    I logged my general food intake as an idea for any one who is interested.
  • DPernet
    DPernet Posts: 481 Member
    My best guess is that with all the cardio you are burning muscle because you don't have a lot of fat to lose. As a result, your metabolism slows and you don't lose weight.

    + I'm kind of betting that the exercise calories aren't being eaten back :wink:

    Body Fat % is bf% and there's a few different ways to measure it. Easiest way at home is with calipers.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10665-newbies-please-read-me-2nd-edition
  • Thanks for your replies so far. I know most would think I was at an ideal weight but this time last year I was 52kg and I would like to get back to that weigh as that's the weight I feel comfortable at.

    My measurement are 30, 27 and 34". And I would ideally like to loose two inches everywhere.

    This is my first post as I don't usually use these kinds of apps or websites but I'm getting pretty desperate and really would love some advice. I work out so hard and never give up but still achieving nothing.

    What is a bf%? And how do I track that.

    I logged my general food intake as an idea for any one who is interested.

    Those measurements are REALLY tiny - I understand you may have been there a while ago, but was it healthy?

    I mean I would LOVE to get back to my weight when I was in high school and in shape, but 107 lbs is not realistic for me anymore. Nor is it healthy.

    I would agree with DPernet as well too - you are suppose to eat back your exercise cals using MFP. IF you use TDEE, you don't eat back exercise cals, but you eat a lot more in general.
  • norahwynn
    norahwynn Posts: 862 Member
    Thanks for your replies so far. I know most would think I was at an ideal weight but this time last year I was 52kg and I would like to get back to that weigh as that's the weight I feel comfortable at.

    My measurement are 30, 27 and 34". And I would ideally like to loose two inches everywhere.

    This is my first post as I don't usually use these kinds of apps or websites but I'm getting pretty desperate and really would love some advice. I work out so hard and never give up but still achieving nothing.

    What is a bf%? And how do I track that.

    I logged my general food intake as an idea for any one who is interested.

    Like the others said, I don't think it seems that you need to lose anymore weight, but for the sake of argument...

    When you say that you log your 'general food intake', does that mean that you don't log it all, just the main stuff? If so, that might be your problem. You should really log everything you put in your mouth. In saying that, I would really consider upping your calories if you're working out that hard each day.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.

    Maybe she isn't happy with her body composition.
  • guessrs
    guessrs Posts: 358 Member
    Wow, you seem to be doing everything right. It gets extremely difficult starting at 125 pounds. My sister is your height and 110. She is very meticulous in what she eats and drinks. Her waist is 25 inches. She eats little, cooks nothing on oil, has a little toast here and there, veggies, fish, rice. I find her quite bony and told her often that she is way more attractive at 120. Luckily she runs so she looks athletic. I'm not sure if you would like to look that way. I mean she turns heads but as much as I want to lose weight I don't like the look of being that thin and bony.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Are you eating back your exercise calories or are you netting like 600-700 cals?

    Either way, you're not eating enough. Set your goals to lose 1/2 lb a week max and eat back all your exercise calories and check back in a month. That'll fix it.
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    and what could some other options be for her problem? since im eating 1200 cals, and not eating back my exercise cals, and i have yet to "stall" or "starve", then obviously 1200 does work for some people, so this wouldnt be the only reason for her not to be losing. she may not be losing for reasons such as not logging correctly (measurements / servings, etc), not logging everything... ketchup, coffee, creamer, etc adds up over time... underlying health condition, or maybe your body is happy at its current weight and doesnt want to lose any. dont just assume its 1 thing, there could be other factors affecting your lack of weight loss.
  • Eat more calories, if you are working out that much your body isn't getting enough fuel. Also, try light strength training, it will tone you up. Bf% is body fat percentage and most gyms have a body fat checker. Edited to add: yes 1200 calls works for some but not everyone. It didn't work for me, because even though I lost all my weight i still had hanging flabby skin and fat which I'm now seeing improve with lifting weights.
  • So you would suggest eating the same amount as calories that I burn in the gym?

    I'm willing to try anything but that seems counter productive to me? Surely the reason in at the gym is to burn extra calories?

    When I said that I logged a general daily intake what I meant was that as I don't use this app and have only just started today I logged my intake for today including everything and that is pretty much what I eat everyday. I'm a vegetarian and a fussy eater so don't have much in the way of variation with my diet.
  • Also I am not sure what you mean by MFP or TDEE?
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    MFP = this website.

    The number of calories it gives you does NOT include exercise so that you would lose weight without doing any exercise. When you do exercise, you need more fuel for that, otherwise you are creating too large of a calorie deficit which isn't healthy.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    Also I am not sure what you mean by MFP or TDEE?

    MFP = My Fitness Pal. The site you're on now. Their method expects you to eat back the calories you burn through exercise, yes, to prevent stalls and muscle loss.

    TDEE = total daily energy expenditure. It's roughly the number of calories you burn in a day and the number of calories you'd need to eat to maintain your current weight. There are plenty of calculators available online to help you get an estimate of this number (http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/) A number of people around here have found success by eating a moderate cut from this number (about 10-20%). With this method you wouldn't need to eat back your exercise calories since they're already figured into your total.
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    If you're 5.5 and 125 lbs, you shouldn't need to lose any weight.

    Maybe she isn't happy with her body composition.

    I suspect this. I was 5'8 and 120lbs and still felt squishy and unhappy with my gut and butt. Took up a strength training program, went on a calorie surplus so I'd go up a few pounds, and am much more content, with a flatter stomach.
  • rjmudlax13
    rjmudlax13 Posts: 900 Member
    So you would suggest eating the same amount as calories that I burn in the gym?

    I'm willing to try anything but that seems counter productive to me? Surely the reason in at the gym is to burn extra calories?

    When I said that I logged a general daily intake what I meant was that as I don't use this app and have only just started today I logged my intake for today including everything and that is pretty much what I eat everyday. I'm a vegetarian and a fussy eater so don't have much in the way of variation with my diet.

    First and foremost, the key is to log accurately. Little mistakes here and there can add up. Use a food scale if you have to. Make sure you include all sauces and oils.

    Use the TDEE method. Just Google it to find a calculator. It will only give you an estimate. Play around with the activity levels and get a number you feel is pretty close to your actual. Take that number and subtract 10%. Eat the resultant number of calories every day for 3 weeks. Don't worry about eating back exercise calories. If you stay the same or gain, reduce by 100 calories and try again.

    Be patient! At your BMI, it is going to be very difficult to lose weight.

    Also, include more strength training. No, you will not get bulky.
  • CajunTexan33
    CajunTexan33 Posts: 76 Member
    But body composition isnt ALL based on weight. I have barely moved the scale..and I dont even care as I have dropped a size. Add muscle. Forget the scale. Changes will come.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    So you would suggest eating the same amount as calories that I burn in the gym?

    I'm willing to try anything but that seems counter productive to me? Surely the reason in at the gym is to burn extra calories?

    When I said that I logged a general daily intake what I meant was that as I don't use this app and have only just started today I logged my intake for today including everything and that is pretty much what I eat everyday. I'm a vegetarian and a fussy eater so don't have much in the way of variation with my diet.

    The way this program works you already have the deficit built in to your base calories to lose weight. I would suggest eating back at least 75% of your gym calories. If you were to take a poll of who's been successful losing weight here and keeping it off, I would wager 95% of those people always had net calories above 1200.
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    So you would suggest eating the same amount as calories that I burn in the gym?

    I'm willing to try anything but that seems counter productive to me? Surely the reason in at the gym is to burn extra calories?

    When I said that I logged a general daily intake what I meant was that as I don't use this app and have only just started today I logged my intake for today including everything and that is pretty much what I eat everyday. I'm a vegetarian and a fussy eater so don't have much in the way of variation with my diet.
    MFP sets your goal to below your tdee without exercise, with the intent that you will be logging and eating your exercise cals back. Which means even if you log exercise and eat them back, you're still eating at the same deficit which is less then your energy expenditure and will lose weight. If the point for you is to burn extra calories at the gym, set your goal to about your tdee, don't eat your exercise calories back, and workout for a few hundred calories a day.

    And seriously, if you're not happy with your body composition, ditch your regular routine and hit the weights.
  • IZackV13
    IZackV13 Posts: 157 Member
    I suspect a case of "skinny fat"...

    Hit the weights, seriously. Focus on compound movements such as squats, deadlifts, bench press, etc. SLOW DOWN on all the HIIT, 90 minutes of cardio, etc. Your body has obviously reached a state where you've maximized the effectiveness of caloric loss through cardio, so you're probably doing more harm than good at this point on that road. Lifting will still ignite the metabolism, and quite possibly shed the inches you're after.
  • I worked out my TDEE to be 2100 calories.

    I am definitely going to add more weights to my workouts. How much would you suggest?

    Also If I do weights should I still eat more?

    And thanks again everyone for your replies, I really do appreciate your advice :)
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Yes, your body will want to eat more when you lift weights. Protein is important.

    Lifting heavy is what is heavy for you. Look for a progressive loading program where you add weight every week. Not one where you stick with the same amount of weight all the time and never increase. Squats, deadlifts, overhead press.
  • Siege_Tank
    Siege_Tank Posts: 781 Member
    Personally, I take my TDEE, subtract the daily calories needed to lose 1.5 lbs per week, and make that my goal, while adding strength training 3 times per week and HIIT twice a week.

    I don't spend more than 30 minutes in the gym per day. You just don't need to. Lifting heavy takes maybe 15 minutes total, with rest periods. Some days I feel silly for hitting the squat rack for ten minutes, doing 3 sets of 230 x8, and then cooling down on the treadmill.. But you should see my calves... In the last 6 months I've gone from 180 lbs on my squat to 230. Once you know how to lift it only takes a moment to deplete your strength reserves.

    At any rate... if you want to know the answer to the question will weight training really help, read this article - it's exceptionally good and entertaining!!

    http://jasonferruggia.com/how-to-get-a-body-like-jessica-biel/

    High Intensity Interval Training is used for improving flexibility, speed, and agility, like in a sprinter. It is exceptionally good for stripping off fat in people who are overweight, but you start to see diminishing returns on fat loss for people who are average bodyfat%.

    Running and spinning and other steady state cardio is great for improving endurance and stamina. But you still see the same diminishing returns on fat loss when you get close to a goal weight.

    Kettle bells and body weight exercises and machines increase flexibility, coordination, agility, and balance. Still not getting the body to burn more calories after the workout.

    The above exercises are great for improving your skills in a given area, like training for a specific sport or event. But if you want to see your body start to fill out in the right areas and slim down with that layer of fat that seems to be immovable, you've got to shock your metabolism. Repairing sore and exhausted muscles takes DAYS, people who lift heavy target the same muscle groups 4 or 5 days apart, because that's how long it takes for them to fully recover.

    During all that time, the body is busy taking proteins and nutrients and building the muscles stronger, so that when you do it again, it won't be quite as shocking to your body. It wants to adapt =) But that repair requires a LOT of energy for those 4 or 5 days.