I Love Fat :(

Hello all!

I'm having a terrible time with macros, it seems. My unhealthy splurges are fatty, carby things, so I try to limit them and replace them with healthier things, and my healthier choices are STILL fatty and carby. I'm not a huge meat eater, so I've been trying to incorporate other forms of protein, but they all seem to be tied to fat in some way. Peanut butter, eggs, cottage cheese, protein shakes...I love, love veggies and fish, but they count as carbs, and then once you add in olive oil or butter or whatever, I'm back to high fat! I'd rather not eat quinoa 5 times a day, but I'm kind of at a loss on how to up my protein to 40% and reduce my fat at the same time without eating dry chicken breasts exclusively.

Any help would be appreciated! :)
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  • BigGuy47
    BigGuy47 Posts: 1,768 Member
    I love fat too. I eat fat.

    Try to balance your macros and keep you total calories under control.
  • MsEndomorph
    MsEndomorph Posts: 604 Member
    That's because fat is delicious!

    Today,it's consumed 44% of my calories. Granted, I wasn't really trying to cut back today (or I wouldn't have had my husband make Mexican food), but I seriously cannot get anywhere near the 40% protein my trainer wants me at.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    Nothing wrong with fat. It is overall calorie deficit that is of primary importance.
  • dangerousdumpling
    dangerousdumpling Posts: 1,109 Member
    Nothing wrong with fat. It is overall calorie deficit that is of primary importance.

    Ditto. If trying to balance your macros will make your plan too hard you won't stick with it. Do what you can to better the quality of your diet if that's important to you, but don't let it get to you so much that you start to hate it and then quit. I don't know how long you've been working on your weight loss but maybe you could simply work on your calorie deficit until that becomes easier and then work on your macros. Slowly, though. You don't have to do it all at once.

    Also, I love fat. Mayo...:love::heart: :love: :heart: :love: :blushing:
  • MsEndomorph
    MsEndomorph Posts: 604 Member
    Nothing wrong with fat. It is overall calorie deficit that is of primary importance.

    Ditto. If trying to balance your macros will make your plan too hard you won't stick with it. Do what you can to better the quality of your diet if that's important to you, but don't let it get to you so much that you start to hate it and then quit. I don't know how long you've been working on your weight loss but maybe you could simply work on your calorie deficit until that becomes easier and then work on your macros. Slowly, though. You don't have to do it all at once.

    Also, I love fat. Mayo...:love::heart: :love: :heart: :love: :blushing:

    I definitely think I might quit worrying about macros for a bit and settle more into the calorie counting alone. I think it's too much at once.
    The only reason I'm concerned about it is I'm putting a lot of time and effort into weight lifting, and I've been told that high fat/low protein is the exact opposite of the diet I should be eating
  • babyangelica2010
    babyangelica2010 Posts: 117 Member
    Healthy fats are good for you, people are too worried about fat.
  • MsEndomorph
    MsEndomorph Posts: 604 Member
    Healthy fats are good for you, people are too worried about fat.

    From a weight loss perspective, I agree with you.

    As a health care professional...ehhhhhh. I think people worry too little. Extremes on both ends, I guess.
  • lisabinco
    lisabinco Posts: 1,016 Member
    I love fat, too, but not on me.
    I'm a firm believer in "You are what you eat."
    I never worry at all about the carbs (or anything else) in raw veggies. Eat as many and as much veggies, raw or steamed, as you want. You need some carbs anyway; they might as well be nutritious carbs.
    I don't worry about the carbs in legumes, either. I eat at least a cup of some kind of beans a day.
    I never worry about the sugars (or anything else) in whole fruits, either. I eat 4-6 fruits a day. At least.
    I do, however, limit my fats somewhat. I primarily get my fats from nuts and seeds, avocados and bananas, whole natural sources. I just try not to go overboard on those, since I am not overly active and am still trying to lose 10 more pounds.
  • melindasuefritz
    melindasuefritz Posts: 3,509 Member
    Nothing wrong with fat. It is overall calorie deficit that is of primary importance.
  • JTick
    JTick Posts: 2,131 Member
    How do fish have carbs?
  • MsEndomorph
    MsEndomorph Posts: 604 Member
    How do fish have carbs?

    Because I only eat it fried!

    Actually, it was a typo I was too lazy to fix ;) Fish is upping my fat.
  • melwharris91
    melwharris91 Posts: 80 Member
    Most days I log in I am normally over my budget in fat. I lost ten pounds in the month I've been doing mfp so i must be doing something right. I try to focus on eating fruits and veggies for fiber and try to eat mostly healthy fats lfrom nuts and olive oil. I also. try to have some kind of protein whether it be from yogurt cheese or meat. I also eat very little bread or pasta so the csrbs I get are mostly from fruit and veggies
  • RunningRichelle
    RunningRichelle Posts: 346 Member
    About two months ago, I noticed that I was over my allotted fat intake almost every day. For things like coconut oil, nuts, seeds, and avocados.

    After looking and looking, I found a site called marksdailyapple.com.

    I really suggest you take a look! I'm a nurse, so I love my science and well-done research.

    This guy supports all his statements with good research.

    Now, about 65% of my calories every day are from delicious, high-quality fats, including grass-fed beef and butter (YUM). And the scale is on the way back down again.
  • BarackMeLikeAHurricane
    BarackMeLikeAHurricane Posts: 3,400 Member
    As long as you eat enough protein it's fine
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    About two months ago, I noticed that I was over my allotted fat intake almost every day. For things like coconut oil, nuts, seeds, and avocados.

    After looking and looking, I found a site called marksdailyapple.com.

    I really suggest you take a look! I'm a nurse, so I love my science and well-done research.

    This guy supports all his statements with good research.

    Now, about 65% of my calories every day are from delicious, high-quality fats, including grass-fed beef and butter (YUM). And the scale is on the way back down again.

    Hmmm, not sure if you're serious or not. Sisson and well researched don't often go together
  • pluckabee
    pluckabee Posts: 346 Member
    Hit your protein and don't worry about going over on fat
  • splashblob
    splashblob Posts: 249 Member
    I am a fan of fat too, and I have the same problem. When I try to eat more protein, I go over on fat macro or sodium easily. When I tried to add more vegetable and fruit, then my carb intake will be very high instead. :(
  • corgicake
    corgicake Posts: 846 Member
    Try cooking your vegetables in the same pan as some higher fat meat - that will get you that tasty grease coating without having to add additional sources of it. Consider switching to chicken thighs instead of those dry annoying chicken breasts. Other high-protein things that aren't quinoa (I avoid it too for financial and ethical reasons) include beans, seeds, tofu/soy, and seitan (wheat protein).
  • RunningRichelle
    RunningRichelle Posts: 346 Member
    Hmmm, not sure if you're serious or not. Sisson and well researched don't often go together

    I am serious, and since my degree and my income mostly rely on my ability to spot poorly-done research, I'm gonna stick with what I said. I look up the statements made before blindly following. That, the rate my bf% is dropping without me having to spend hours slaving in the gym, and the awesome food I get to eat every day leave me pretty happy!

    Why shouldn't I share what's working for me?
  • mrmagee3
    mrmagee3 Posts: 518 Member
    I've lost 75 pounds eating a diet that averages around 70% fat. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
  • fat does get a very bad rap. I am a 'health care professional' too and I do think some people worry too little, but not the person who is eating (natural) peanut butter, avocado, hummus, olive oil, etc. for fat. Just look up that recent study on the Mediterranean diet, which is high in fat, but also high in omega-3 (fish), omega-6 (olive oil), and nuts (omega 6). Those people have the BEST outcomes possible and totally opposite of the stupidly touted "AMA" and "AHA" diets here that are high-carb-low-fat. So eat your fat and let it fill you up and try to worry more about what KIND of fat you are eating (butter, cottage cheese; probably not as good a choice as olive oil or avocado). If you are really worried about the eggs, switch to egg whites, but there is NO EVIDENCE that too much dietary cholesterol actually makes your cholesterol worse in the long run. Saturated fat is more evil than dietary cholesterol. Your body actually MAKES cholesterol when it doesn't have enough.
  • RunningForeverMama
    RunningForeverMama Posts: 261 Member
    I'm always way over on fat. Might not be the healthiest (I can't say they're all good fats) but it hasn't hindered me so far. ~shrug~
  • wanted to also mention that you probably should be avoiding fried foods. That is one of the worst kinds of fats. There is some interesting research regarding omega3:omega6 ratios in diets and improving outcomes, and trying to increase your omega 3 ratio is beneficial. Well, fish is great for that, EXCEPT for when you fry it -_-. Just put a dab (teaspoon!) of olive oil on it and put it in the oven! Don't bread and fry it!
  • MsEndomorph
    MsEndomorph Posts: 604 Member
    About two months ago, I noticed that I was over my allotted fat intake almost every day. For things like coconut oil, nuts, seeds, and avocados.

    After looking and looking, I found a site called marksdailyapple.com.

    I really suggest you take a look! I'm a nurse, so I love my science and well-done research.

    This guy supports all his statements with good research.

    Now, about 65% of my calories every day are from delicious, high-quality fats, including grass-fed beef and butter (YUM). And the scale is on the way back down again.

    Thank you for the info! I'll definitely check it out.
    I know people who have had fantastic weight loss results on high-fat diets - my goal isn't a low fat diet for weight loss purposes, but for bodybuilding purposes. I can't get adequate amounts of protein (I'm aiming for ~130g/day) on 20% of my caloric intake. What ended up happening intially was I pushed myself into a low-carb diet without realizing, because it was the easiest way to fit everything in. Also not great.
  • MsEndomorph
    MsEndomorph Posts: 604 Member
    Try cooking your vegetables in the same pan as some higher fat meat - that will get you that tasty grease coating without having to add additional sources of it. Consider switching to chicken thighs instead of those dry annoying chicken breasts. Other high-protein things that aren't quinoa (I avoid it too for financial and ethical reasons) include beans, seeds, tofu/soy, and seitan (wheat protein).

    That is a fantastic idea and thanks for the food suggestions. I'm going to try to incorporate some new protein sources into my diet.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    30% protein is probably sufficient.

    I personally believe fat is the least important macro to control, as long as you get enough and don't go over your calories it doesn't matter that much how much you get. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Fat is delicious and very satiating and in some senses very good for you, as long as you stay away from that trans fat garbage.
  • danasings
    danasings Posts: 8,218 Member
    30% protein is probably sufficient.

    I personally believe fat is the least important macro to control, as long as you get enough and don't go over your calories it doesn't matter that much how much you get. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Fat is delicious and very satiating and in some senses very good for you, as long as you stay away from that trans fat garbage.

    QFT.
  • ngyoung
    ngyoung Posts: 311 Member
    About two months ago, I noticed that I was over my allotted fat intake almost every day. For things like coconut oil, nuts, seeds, and avocados.

    After looking and looking, I found a site called marksdailyapple.com.

    I really suggest you take a look! I'm a nurse, so I love my science and well-done research.

    This guy supports all his statements with good research.

    Now, about 65% of my calories every day are from delicious, high-quality fats, including grass-fed beef and butter (YUM). And the scale is on the way back down again.

    Hmmm, not sure if you're serious or not. Acg and well researched don't often go together

    There fixed that for you.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    About two months ago, I noticed that I was over my allotted fat intake almost every day. For things like coconut oil, nuts, seeds, and avocados.

    After looking and looking, I found a site called marksdailyapple.com.

    I really suggest you take a look! I'm a nurse, so I love my science and well-done research.

    This guy supports all his statements with good research.

    Now, about 65% of my calories every day are from delicious, high-quality fats, including grass-fed beef and butter (YUM). And the scale is on the way back down again.

    Hmmm, not sure if you're serious or not. Acg and well researched don't often go together

    There fixed that for you.

    Lol, what about Sisson's Cho curve for weightloss that he just made up and contradicts himself within the curve? Or by his own admission, adds "poisons" to his protein powder he sells?
  • kosman8807
    kosman8807 Posts: 29 Member
    I would suggest adding edemame to your meals at least once a day. 1 cup of that has 17 g of protein and it also has good fats. Hope that helps. I buy the frozen kind and just steam them.