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  • smesche
    smesche Posts: 234 Member
    I just had a baby ruth

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  • CloudyMao
    CloudyMao Posts: 258 Member
    What would make anyone think it is a good and healthy idea to practice something that they saw someone with an eating disorder do is beyond me. That's like saying you saw someone starve themselves to lose weight and asking if its ok to do so. Of course its not. Then you have the whole people like me factor going on. People like me who are recovering from an eating disorder who see people post crap like this and might be triggered into a relapse. I'm incredibly triggered right now which means I probably won't be the only one. This post needs to be deleted.

    If her post is going to trigger you then maybe you need to make a phone call because it makes no sense that someone you have never met or know nothing about can have such a deep impact on your mind and actions. Her post does not need to be deleted but maybe you just need to not read this thread anymore.

    Maybe you should brush up on eating disorders before you tell me how I should and shouldn't deal with a mental illness I've had for 11 years. If you knew anything at all about ED's you would know the dumbest, littlest things can be triggering. A comment, a picture, a stupid post on a forum that is supposed to be for people seeking to be healthy. Whether I know the person or not is completely irrelevant, but once again, if you knew anything what so ever about eating disorders, you would know this.

    Not to be rude, but maybe you should consider staying away from the forums here? I see this kind of thread fairly regularly, and I'm sure you do too. It might be a good idea to talk some things through with a professional before potentially exposing yourself to these kinds of triggers.


    This is a healthy eating forum, those of us with EDs who are trying to recover, seek out communities promoting GOOD relationships with food as part of recovery because there's less likely to be triggers here. I used to look for this on tumblr before sad people started putting pictures of typical trigger food and other harmful things into the tags.

    You're ok when you're prepared - you know what you're about to be exposed to, you'e warned. This thread was just completely out of the blue BAM eating disorders - just at a point where it wasn't on my mind. It was a bit of a blow to the face here - still. I agree. You CAN except triggering topics to be on here, and not all of it is going to come with warning.
  • 77TiffanyIrene77
    77TiffanyIrene77 Posts: 16 Member
    You cannot ****ing ask for people not to judge you or ot to tell you what you're doing isnt okay because it,s not. Asking for advices on your eating disorder here is disgusting. This pisses me off so much. I'm a recovering bulimic trying to get healthy and I came on here because it was focused on HEALTH. Promoting eating disorders is wrong and all you people giving her advices on how to lose weight with this diet should be ashamed..
    I just through the tread and actually, nobody said anything about promoting this! It was a question! That is all. There is no reason AT ALL for you to be swearing at me! AND IF YOU WOULD HAVE READ THIS CORRECTLY AND NOT IN YOUR OWN CONTEXT, DARLING, YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT IT WAS A QUESTION IN TO REGARDS TO A TV SHOW. I do not Chew & Spit. I was getting opinions. People like you shouldn't be allowed to have MFPs. How are you going to go on a Diet and weight loss site and expect to not see something that you don't agree with? Exactly! Before you start judging people and telling me that me asking for advice on "My eating disorder HERE is disgusting." The only eating disorder I have is I eat too much. Period. That's it. But thanks for making people feel like complete **** because you wanted to click and read a post that honestly had nothing to do with you but the simple fact that somebody had a serious question that wanted answer...
    How would you feel If I commented on something you posted that said well I think you coming on MyFItnessPal and posting that you had bulimic is fu**ing disgusting?! Not so great huh? Then don't put comments up when somebody's asking for judgement free.
  • beastmodekittyx
    beastmodekittyx Posts: 97 Member
    You cannot ****ing ask for people not to judge you or ot to tell you what you're doing isnt okay because it,s not. Asking for advices on your eating disorder here is disgusting. This pisses me off so much. I'm a recovering bulimic trying to get healthy and I came on here because it was focused on HEALTH. Promoting eating disorders is wrong and all you people giving her advices on how to lose weight with this diet should be ashamed..
    I just through the tread and actually, nobody said anything about promoting this! It was a question! That is all. There is no reason AT ALL for you to be swearing at me! AND IF YOU WOULD HAVE READ THIS CORRECTLY AND NOT IN YOUR OWN CONTEXT, DARLING, YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT IT WAS A QUESTION IN TO REGARDS TO A TV SHOW. I do not Chew & Spit. I was getting opinions. People like you shouldn't be allowed to have MFPs. How are you going to go on a Diet and weight loss site and expect to not see something that you don't agree with? Exactly! Before you start judging people and telling me that me asking for advice on "My eating disorder HERE is disgusting." The only eating disorder I have is I eat too much. Period. That's it. But thanks for making people feel like complete **** because you wanted to click and read a post that honestly had nothing to do with you but the simple fact that somebody had a serious question that wanted answer...
    How would you feel If I commented on something you posted that said well I think you coming on MyFItnessPal and posting that you had bulimic is fu**ing disgusting?! Not so great huh? Then don't put comments up when somebody's asking for judgement free.

    I realise I got carried away but that kind of stuff really pisses me off. But honeslty, if your gonna talk about disorders on the internet people are gonna react and that was my reaction. Internet is not a judge free zone.
  • jayjay12345654321
    jayjay12345654321 Posts: 653 Member
    Crazy, judgmental rants aside, back to you and the topic of filling a need to eat something crunchy and salty - try some healthy alternatives. I don't mean a 100 calorie weight watchers snack pack per se, but maybe some crunchy raw carrots. or cut a jicama into sticks and put a little salt on it (jicama tastes like a raw potato with a hint of sweetness). maybe a salted crunchy green apple cut into slices or a cucumber speared, also with a sprinkle of salt. worst comes to worst and you don't have any fresh fruits or veggies on hand, munch on ice cubes. buy the zero calorie flavored water and make your own flavored ice cubes and munch on those. not that i'm recommending this due to sodium, but my kids pour pickle juice into the ice trays and munch of pickle pops when it's particularly hot outside.
  • feelin_gr_8
    feelin_gr_8 Posts: 308 Member

    If it helps at all, I have figured out a way to satisfy my one craving weakness: coffee. Of course black coffee itself isn't all that bad, but I like espresso, with milk, with sugar. I made myself a deal: if I want starbucks, I walk there. For me that means a 3.5 mile round trip on some mildly hilly roads. So, I end up burning more calories than I take in, but I still get my treat. This is, of course, in addition to the normal exercise I'm doing. Perhaps it's possible for you to do something similar?

    This is what I have been doing. If I want frozen yogurt, I walk the 2 miles round trip :)
  • sokkache
    sokkache Posts: 220 Member
    There are actually foods that can help you not crave certain sweet and salty snacks. For example, if you are constantly craving chocolate, eating fruits and seeds can help you stop craving it.

    As for sugary foods, fresh fruits, sweet potatoes and dairy can help you stop craving sugar. If you crave oily foods or salty foods, green vegetables help as well as nuts and seeds. Honestly for me, the more healthy I eat, even if it's only for 2 days, I would crave sugary and salty foods less. In fact, my taste buds have now become very sensitive to salt and msg because more foods from restaurants are too salty for my taste buds. So I would say give yourself 2-3 days of eating green vegetables, yogurt (maybe some cheese) and nuts and seeds, and some fresh fruit as snacks and during meals and your cravings may be a lot less than they are now.
  • clarkeje1
    clarkeje1 Posts: 1,641 Member
    The chew and spit method is definitely disordered eating. Please don't do this.
  • RivenV
    RivenV Posts: 1,667 Member
    I just have to say this thread is really, really triggering. Oi...
    Wonder why you went psycho instead of taking this route...

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    You can only control your own actions, girl. The world is full of triggers; if you can't handle an internet forum without being triggered, maybe you should avoid it until you're stronger.
  • Sarahmeridith
    Sarahmeridith Posts: 298 Member
    With time the cravings go away. and with eating less sweets things like apples which didn't used to taste sweet begin to seem sweeter and satisfy those cravings. Also there is nothing wrong with a mini candy or something like that every now and again just make it fit into your calories and don't buy extra because then it can be hard to not eat them all!
  • dencrew
    dencrew Posts: 1
    A Dr told me that if you taste something sweet, your brain tells your stomach that something sweet is coming. He was referring to artificially sweetened drinks as being a bad idea because it makes you hungry for that "something sweet" So I would think that if you chew what you are craving but never swallow it, then you would stay hungry.
  • cityjaneLondon
    cityjaneLondon Posts: 12,797 Member
    I buy packets of mini pretzels from M&S which are 95 cals. Crunchy and salty! They fit into my afternoon snacks - 200 cal allowance. Do not emulate disordered behaviour. You want to be be healthy, not mentally ill.:heart:
  • ttat0325
    ttat0325 Posts: 21 Member
    Realistically speaking, If you do not swallow the food, you won't gain the calories. However, I don't recommend it. Most of the time when your chewing the food, you'll probably end up swallowing it by accident. Why not replace your cravings for something crunchy/salty or something sweet with an alternative?

    For crunchy/salty, you can easily replace it with crackers, pretzels, etc.
    For something sweet, you can eat fruits. They are sweet, but in a good way.

    Remember, you can go over your calorie limit by a bit that is set for a deficit already.
  • jdm_taco
    jdm_taco Posts: 999 Member
    learn to develop self control
  • chandanista
    chandanista Posts: 986 Member
    I personally love 100 cal popcorn, the kettle corn flavor. Today I did eat 90 cal of marshmallows. These things can be done, and worked into our lifestyles, without disordered behaviors.
  • syedsaad
    syedsaad Posts: 156 Member
    whenever i feel like eating something crunchy and salty i usually eat roasted salted cashews or peanuts .... low cal high protein and satisfies the craving :D
  • Lauracharder
    Lauracharder Posts: 141 Member
    Carbohydrate digestion begins in the oral cavity. There is an enzyme known as Amylase found in saliva that starts the process of breaking down carbs for energy. So yes, you can start getting calories from food that contains carbohydrates. Protein and fats have to enter the stomach to have calories absorbed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylase

    ^^^^^^ THIS IS CORRECT
  • silken555
    silken555 Posts: 478 Member
    A few years ago I was watching a show; Intervention, and it was about eating disorders.

    Now; I would rather drink any day than eat. Rather it's water, juice, milk anything... I would rather drink than eat. Well I'm finally off soda and onto water and 0 to low calorie drinks.

    My issue is;
    I sometime's get this horrid craving for something salty and/or crunchy. Or even just something sweet that I know I shouldn't eat. Well on Intervention I seen a girl who was anorexic and she would chew it and then spit it out into a cup... Just for the taste, to help with the craving so she wasn't getting all the calories.

    My question is wouldn't she still be getting the calories?
    If not, if I'm maintaining my calories under what my DV should be, is it bad to use the Chew & Spit method to get rid of the cravings?

    Please honest answers. No judging...

    The girl was not anorexic. She had a sever swallowing phobia due to a choking incident. She still craved the taste of food, but she couldn't swallow it. She had a feeding tube directly in her stomach.

    She was mainly getting her cals from what got directly funneled into her stomach.
  • silken555
    silken555 Posts: 478 Member
    Just to add, I wholeheartedly hope you aren't going to do this. What she did was disgusting and it was causing her a lot of medical issues as well as personal relationship issues with friends and family alike.

    Good luck to you on your journey...:)
  • stevesgirl824
    stevesgirl824 Posts: 74 Member
    Think about this for a minute, are the habits of a girl who needed an intervention because of an eating disorder the habits that you want to copy? That doesn't sound like a good idea.

    Completely agree. OP, please find another alternative. Your goal should be health first, not what the scale reads. Hang in there!
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
    What would make anyone think it is a good and healthy idea to practice something that they saw someone with an eating disorder do is beyond me. That's like saying you saw someone starve themselves to lose weight and asking if its ok to do so. Of course its not. Then you have the whole people like me factor going on. People like me who are recovering from an eating disorder who see people post crap like this and might be triggered into a relapse. I'm incredibly triggered right now which means I probably won't be the only one. This post needs to be deleted.

    If her post is going to trigger you then maybe you need to make a phone call because it makes no sense that someone you have never met or know nothing about can have such a deep impact on your mind and actions. Her post does not need to be deleted but maybe you just need to not read this thread anymore.

    Maybe you should brush up on eating disorders before you tell me how I should and shouldn't deal with a mental illness I've had for 11 years. If you knew anything at all about ED's you would know the dumbest, littlest things can be triggering. A comment, a picture, a stupid post on a forum that is supposed to be for people seeking to be healthy. Whether I know the person or not is completely irrelevant, but once again, if you knew anything what so ever about eating disorders, you would know this.

    Hi - I'm sorry to read that even a little word can trigger an EO. I believe you though. I have a food obsession which is getting better but still one sniff of Popeyes chicken would do me in till recently.

    I kindly would like to say that the OP already has an eating disorder, the pro-ana sites all the time talk about how to play with food in order to fool people into thinking they have been eating. They strive for as close to zero calories as possible,, eating a lettuce leaf would be akin to a salad. its not a good way to be. One lady died on this documentary because she starved herself. I would encourage the OP to not give in to playing games with food, but to find a way to eat healthy or at least not to do that little trick with food.. wont help her at all and may hurt her :(

    I wish you well in overcoming.. Take care! :) hugs to you.
  • svhorarh
    svhorarh Posts: 1
    I don't think that there are any calories in chewing something but not swallowing it. A lot of creamy and sugary things probably dissolve on the tongue, but it's not enough to care about.

    Although chewing and spitting is associated with eating disorders, I think it's pretty tame. There's no stomach acid destroying the lining of the esophagus or dissolving the enamel of the teeth as with bulimics. As a habit it's unpleasant.

    I'll just go ahead and state that I was too lazy to read 5+ pages of responses where most are just letting the OP know that it's not a good behavior to develop, yadda yadda.

    I needed to quote this particular response though. The reason that the OP is craving more foods is because when you begin to chew your body releases insulin. This insulin is released to prepare the body for digesting the food that you should be swallowing. When there's no food to be digested, it results in excess insulin in your body, which causes further hunger. It makes a person practicing in chewing and spitting more likely to binge.

    Source: Me (Prior diagnosed Anorectic, ED-NOS; 17 years. Currently "recovered")

    And for those that prefer science to back it up: http://www.scienceofeds.org/2013/03/21/your-bodys-response-to-chewing-and-spitting-the-role-of-insulin/

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