Type of Protein shake for me
vikramtag
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I'm 21 years old,180 lbs( was 198 before i started working out 2 months ago ) and my height is 5'9
I wanted to know which type of protein shake is good for me.
My main goal right now is to lose fat but also maintain muscle.
I work out fasted in the mornings.
Lifting in the mornings and cardio(bicycling) in the evenings.
And also please suggest if the shake is a pre or post workout and which one is better and why ?
My trainer suggested 'Isopure' but I'm not sure if its the right thing for me
I wanted to know which type of protein shake is good for me.
My main goal right now is to lose fat but also maintain muscle.
I work out fasted in the mornings.
Lifting in the mornings and cardio(bicycling) in the evenings.
And also please suggest if the shake is a pre or post workout and which one is better and why ?
My trainer suggested 'Isopure' but I'm not sure if its the right thing for me
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If you can get enough protein through real food that is the best way. A protein shake will not do anything magical or make you lose more fat. They are simply a supplement to have when you will not reach your protein goals through food alone.
If you want to have a protein shake because you aren't reaching proper protein amounts through real food go for whatever one you like best. Read labels, see what price points you are comfortable with and find one with a type of protein you prefer (whey, egg, soy, hemp, etc).0 -
I agree you only need it if you can't get your protein intake through food. I've tried lots of different ones. I stick to Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Double rich chocolate. Only one I don't get sick of the taste.0
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I have used a fairly wide range of protein powders, and the one I have settled on is Dymatize ISO 100 whey protein (Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey come a close second). Per 28g scoop, Dymatize has 24g protein and 0g of carbs or fat, tastes and mixes great as well.
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
Of course you don't 'need' to use a protein powder specifically, but I find them a very efficient, convenient and portable way to obtain the necessary protein intake I require.
Also make sure you are eating enough carbohydrates to fuel the training you are doing, particularly as you are training twice per day. Insufficient stored carbohydrate energy in the working muscles (glycogen) will cause the muscles to switch to the next most convenient energy source available, muscle protein.
Good luck.0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
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Obviously food is the best choice, but protein shakes are used more for convenience. Whey or Whey isolates. I have tried a variety of brands. My by far favorite is Beverly international UMP, others that are good Musclefarm banana, Syntha 6 strawberry , Optimal Nutrition Whey. Cyto sport whey Isolate, Eas isn't too bad Either you can pick that up at Sams Club.0
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As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
I can show you the peer-review scientific journal article if you'd like ('Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males', Moore et al 2012). The study trialled various protein intake patterns following resistance training and this intake was shown to be that which facilitated the greatest and most prolonged amount of muscle protein synthesis and result in a positive nitrogen balance.0 -
I like the Dymatize Elite XT one...is very low calories has a high amount of protein and nutrients and also long acting protein. Is FDA approved which is the best thing so you know its a safe one. Its been on the market a long time with body builders etc. I like the Banana Nut one best, right now am doing the blueberry muffin one. I mix it with Lactose free milk,Matcha Green Tea powder which also helps with losing weight and is super high in antioxidants, and fresh fruit. I just drink a shake for breakfast because that is my busiest time of day. But I eat a normal lunch and dinner.0
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As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
I can show you the peer-review scientific journal article if you'd like ('Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males', Moore et al 2012). The study trialled various protein intake patterns following resistance training and this intake was shown to be that which facilitated the greatest and most prolonged amount of muscle protein synthesis and result in a positive nitrogen balance.
You could show me about 9 million not credible studies and peer review scientific journals - i'd still tell you, that you are wrong. I don't even want to go dig up credible resources, anyone here who is a bodybuilding nut that isn't from the 60's will tell you the same thing I am.0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
I can show you the peer-review scientific journal article if you'd like ('Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males', Moore et al 2012). The study trialled various protein intake patterns following resistance training and this intake was shown to be that which facilitated the greatest and most prolonged amount of muscle protein synthesis and result in a positive nitrogen balance.
You could show me about 9 million not credible studies and peer review scientific journals - i'd still tell you, that you are wrong. I don't even want to go dig up credible resources, anyone here who is a bodybuilding nut that isn't from the 60's will tell you the same thing I am.
A peer reviewed scientific journal is THE credible source of information. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but if it's from a website or weight-lifting magazine, don't bother with it.0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
I can show you the peer-review scientific journal article if you'd like ('Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males', Moore et al 2012). The study trialled various protein intake patterns following resistance training and this intake was shown to be that which facilitated the greatest and most prolonged amount of muscle protein synthesis and result in a positive nitrogen balance.
You could show me about 9 million not credible studies and peer review scientific journals - i'd still tell you, that you are wrong. I don't even want to go dig up credible resources, anyone here who is a bodybuilding nut that isn't from the 60's will tell you the same thing I am.
A peer reviewed scientific journal is THE credible source of information. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but if it's from a website or weight-lifting magazine, don't bother with it.
Lyle McDonald and Layne Norton, and i'd listen to them over anything you could ever tell me. What you said is bro-science nonsense, get out of here bro.0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
I can show you the peer-review scientific journal article if you'd like ('Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males', Moore et al 2012). The study trialled various protein intake patterns following resistance training and this intake was shown to be that which facilitated the greatest and most prolonged amount of muscle protein synthesis and result in a positive nitrogen balance.
You could show me about 9 million not credible studies and peer review scientific journals - i'd still tell you, that you are wrong. I don't even want to go dig up credible resources, anyone here who is a bodybuilding nut that isn't from the 60's will tell you the same thing I am.
A peer reviewed scientific journal is THE credible source of information. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but if it's from a website or weight-lifting magazine, don't bother with it.
Lyle McDonald and Layne Norton, and i'd listen to them over anything you could ever tell me. What you said is bro-science nonsense, get out of here bro.
Yeah that says it all really, "I listen to what these two have to say and refuse to believe anything else". Very narrow sighted view. Too many people spouting personal beliefs as science these days (about a whole range of subjects) is confusing and confounding the actually facts.
Anyway, I think we hijacked the thread a bit here with our bickering. Obviously we are not going to see eye-to-eye so I will leave it at that.0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
I can show you the peer-review scientific journal article if you'd like ('Daytime pattern of post-exercise protein intake affects whole-body protein turnover in resistance-trained males', Moore et al 2012). The study trialled various protein intake patterns following resistance training and this intake was shown to be that which facilitated the greatest and most prolonged amount of muscle protein synthesis and result in a positive nitrogen balance.
You could show me about 9 million not credible studies and peer review scientific journals - i'd still tell you, that you are wrong. I don't even want to go dig up credible resources, anyone here who is a bodybuilding nut that isn't from the 60's will tell you the same thing I am.
A peer reviewed scientific journal is THE credible source of information. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but if it's from a website or weight-lifting magazine, don't bother with it.
Lyle McDonald and Layne Norton, and i'd listen to them over anything you could ever tell me. What you said is bro-science nonsense, get out of here bro.
Yeah that says it all really, "I listen to what these two have to say and refuse to believe anything else". Very narrow sighted view. Too many people spouting personal beliefs as science these days (about a whole range of subjects) is confusing and confounding the actually facts.
Anyway, I think we hijacked the thread a bit here with our bickering. Obviously we are not going to see eye-to-eye so I will leave it at that.
Alan Aragon, Layne Norton, Lyle McDonald, Eric Helms, etc. There is a reason they are at the top of the pyramid. Look them up.0 -
If you can get enough protein through real food that is the best way. A protein shake will not do anything magical or make you lose more fat. They are simply a supplement to have when you will not reach your protein goals through food alone.
If you want to have a protein shake because you aren't reaching proper protein amounts through real food go for whatever one you like best. Read labels, see what price points you are comfortable with and find one with a type of protein you prefer (whey, egg, soy, hemp, etc).
Can i just have it on days I dont reach my protein goal ? or is it really the pre and post work out stuff that matters ? For example I realise I dint consume enough protein through the day at dinner time ..can i have it then ?0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
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What is your opinion about it then ?0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
What is your opinion about it then ?
Have a protein shake whenever you want a protein shake.. that's my opinion.0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
What is your opinion about it then ?
Have a protein shake whenever you want a protein shake.. that's my opinion.
So whenever can be post work out also right ? so ill do that .0 -
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
What is your opinion about it then ?
Have a protein shake whenever you want a protein shake.. that's my opinion.
So whenever can be post work out also right ? so ill do that .
Could be post workout, pre-work out, DURING the workout, could be after a 5 hour drive, it does not matter when.0 -
What type of protein shake is best for you depends on a few things. Whey protein is generally the least expensive and is a very good quality, easily absorbable protein. Unless you are vegan or have dairy allergies, I'd go with whey.
Some varieties are loaded with artificial sweeteners, flavours, etc. I personally try to avoid as much artificial junk as I can, so I choose products sweetened with stevia or actual sugar rather than artificial sweeteners. Be sure to read the labels before you buy.
You should always follow up your workouts with a snack that contains protein, a few carbohydrates, and fluids (water, milk, juice). A protein shake works well for this, but of course there are lots of other post-workout snacks that would be acceptable. I like low-fat milk and a banana or a few slices of turkey, raw veggies, and a big glass of water.
You can enjoy a protein shake anytime of the day. Some people have a protein and fruit smoothie for breakfast, or as a mid-day snack. I often have them in the evening if I noticed I've been low on protein during the day.0 -
I always get the individual things of Muscle Milk. You can get them at walmart or hyvee. They come in chocolate, strawberry, vanilla, and I just found banana and cookies n cream. They high in protein, low in carbs, fat, and sugar.0
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There are no special protein shakes for building muscle or losing fat or pre workout or post workout. They're just nutrition in a blender. They have carbs, fat, protein, and calories just like anything else you eat. The only thing written on the container that is relevant is the Nutritional Facts panel. Everything else is marketing. The only other thing that matters is how it tastes to you and whether the price is reasonable.0
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Obviously they've all said about the same, you don't have to have a protein shake if your getting your protein through your food, but if you're not reaching your macro for protein I suggest muscle pharm combat powder banana cream flavored. It's delicious 130 cals 24g protein per serving. Can mix with any liquid of your choice. I use water or milk. If you mix with 8 oz of fat free milk and throw in the freezer about 10-15 mins it's like a milkshake. Oh and I got a 4 lb container on amazon for $38 ish
Good luck finding what you need.0 -
I personally use Nutracore Lean Active 7 because of the taste and nutritional content, but it also contains some things geared specifically towards fat loss. It doesn't sound like you need that as much as you need the protein.
As for when you take it, that's totally up to you. The pre-post-etc argument has credible sources on both sides. I tend to lean towards empirical data rather than opinion, so I try to make sure I drink one post workout. Something you have to remember in all this babble is that the protein you ingest doesn't just go away immediately if you don't use it. If you have a high-protein diet, there are raw amino acids in your system pretty much all the time. The exception will be early in the morning... I don't know who recommended working out fasted, but everything I've read and studied says otherwise. Your body doesn't start repairing muscles when you finish your workout, the process is continual, just slowed down while a particular muscle is under stress. You also don't digest the whole shake you're drinking immediately. It takes something like 3 hours to digest 60g of protein. You need to have a good balance of amino acids available all the time, but you need them most of all during *and* after your workout. Working out on depleted stores of, well everything, just seems like an exercise in futility, if you'll pardon the pun.0 -
There are no special protein shakes for building muscle or losing fat or pre workout or post workout. They're just nutrition in a blender. They have carbs, fat, protein, and calories just like anything else you eat. The only thing written on the container that is relevant is the Nutritional Facts panel. Everything else is marketing. The only other thing that matters is how it tastes to you and whether the price is reasonable.
Aye aye .. Thanks you0 -
I personally use Nutracore Lean Active 7 because of the taste and nutritional content, but it also contains some things geared specifically towards fat loss. It doesn't sound like you need that as much as you need the protein.
As for when you take it, that's totally up to you. The pre-post-etc argument has credible sources on both sides. I tend to lean towards empirical data rather than opinion, so I try to make sure I drink one post workout. Something you have to remember in all this babble is that the protein you ingest doesn't just go away immediately if you don't use it. If you have a high-protein diet, there are raw amino acids in your system pretty much all the time. The exception will be early in the morning... I don't know who recommended working out fasted, but everything I've read and studied says otherwise. Your body doesn't start repairing muscles when you finish your workout, the process is continual, just slowed down while a particular muscle is under stress. You also don't digest the whole shake you're drinking immediately. It takes something like 3 hours to digest 60g of protein. You need to have a good balance of amino acids available all the time, but you need them most of all during *and* after your workout. Working out on depleted stores of, well everything, just seems like an exercise in futility, if you'll pardon the pun.
Haha thats fine !
My trainer asked me to have a cup of coffee and some water before workout and asked me to let him know if Im falling short of energy when i do my workout. I never felt the need so I continue !0 -
Obviously they've all said about the same, you don't have to have a protein shake if your getting your protein through your food, but if you're not reaching your macro for protein I suggest muscle pharm combat powder banana cream flavored. It's delicious 130 cals 24g protein per serving. Can mix with any liquid of your choice. I use water or milk. If you mix with 8 oz of fat free milk and throw in the freezer about 10-15 mins it's like a milkshake. Oh and I got a 4 lb container on amazon for $38 ish
Good luck finding what you need.
Sounds good,especially the milkshake part
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As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
not true
What is your opinion about it then ?
Have a protein shake whenever you want a protein shake.. that's my opinion.
So whenever can be post work out also right ? so ill do that .
Could be post workout, pre-work out, DURING the workout, could be after a 5 hour drive, it does not matter when.
Got it.Thank you!0 -
If you can get enough protein through real food that is the best way. A protein shake will not do anything magical or make you lose more fat. They are simply a supplement to have when you will not reach your protein goals through food alone.
If you want to have a protein shake because you aren't reaching proper protein amounts through real food go for whatever one you like best. Read labels, see what price points you are comfortable with and find one with a type of protein you prefer (whey, egg, soy, hemp, etc).
I felt a decrease in muscle mass along with fat loss since a few days . I know protein shakes don't aid fat loss but I was wondering if they will help with recovery and maintain muscle since im losing it with fat coz of low calorie diet0 -
Obviously food is the best choice, but protein shakes are used more for convenience. Whey or Whey isolates. I have tried a variety of brands. My by far favorite is Beverly international UMP, others that are good Musclefarm banana, Syntha 6 strawberry , Optimal Nutrition Whey. Cyto sport whey Isolate, Eas isn't too bad Either you can pick that up at Sams Club.
Ill try to do with food but will get one just incase
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I have used a fairly wide range of protein powders, and the one I have settled on is Dymatize ISO 100 whey protein (Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey come a close second). Per 28g scoop, Dymatize has 24g protein and 0g of carbs or fat, tastes and mixes great as well.
As for when to take the shake, definitely immediately (well within 1 hour) after your workout. Research has shown that maximum muscle protein synthesis is stimulated by a protein intake of 20g post-workout, followed by another 20g 2 hours after that. These protein intake need to be fast absorbing (whey, egg whites etc) varieties to ensure they rapidly reach the required areas.
Of course you don't 'need' to use a protein powder specifically, but I find them a very efficient, convenient and portable way to obtain the necessary protein intake I require.
Also make sure you are eating enough carbohydrates to fuel the training you are doing, particularly as you are training twice per day. Insufficient stored carbohydrate energy in the working muscles (glycogen) will cause the muscles to switch to the next most convenient energy source available, muscle protein.
Good luck.
I also need to up my calories by 500. Im in too much deficit on most days..Will do . Thank you !0 -
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