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  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
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    By golly...what is going on?

    OP starts a thread.
    OP receives responses.
    OP doesn't like responses.
    OP will continue to do what they want.

    Or did I miss something?
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
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    I would advise counting calories (and exercise). It works for many people on here, definitely. :-) x
  • ZombieEarhart
    ZombieEarhart Posts: 320 Member
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    <<whispers>>

    Don't feed the troll.

    Yes, if I want to try and dispense good advice that I know will be ignored I can just go talk to my teenager. :/

    Best of luck OP, whatever you do try to treat yourself well.
  • histora
    histora Posts: 287 Member
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    By golly...what is going on?

    OP starts a thread.
    OP receives responses.
    OP doesn't like responses.
    OP will continue to do what they want.

    Or did I miss something?

    Nope, that covers it. There is, however, severe lack of food porn and cat pics in this thread.
  • Fullsterkur_woman
    Fullsterkur_woman Posts: 2,712 Member
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    I would advise counting calories (and exercise). It works for many people on here, definitely. :-) x
    My god. It's so simple, even a caveman could do it!
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    By golly...what is going on?

    OP starts a thread.
    OP receives responses.
    OP doesn't like responses.
    OP will continue to do what they want.

    Or did I miss something?
    nope! You pretty much narrowed it down:) Typical there is always one a day threads!
  • DragonSquatter
    DragonSquatter Posts: 957 Member
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    By golly...what is going on?

    OP starts a thread.
    OP receives responses.
    OP doesn't like responses.
    OP will continue to do what they want.

    Or did I miss something?

    Yes, you forgot that logging is good, just in case you didn't catch that.
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
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  • acpgee
    acpgee Posts: 7,704 Member
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    This might be a beneficial read for you: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/993576-why-you-gain-weight-if-you-eat-more-than-your-cut

    Yes this. Immediate gains of up to 2 kg are just depleted glycogen stores replenishing. I take regular diet breaks every 3 months (would actually suggest that to you if you get fed up) and eat at TDEE for 2 weeks. Always immediately put on 2 kg of glycogen which drops off pretty quickly if I eat at deficit again.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    Maybe because she asked for advice because her way was no longer working, but when others suggested a different, typically successfully way, she screamed she wasn't going to do anything but what she's already doing? :indifferent:

    The internet tells me Einstein, or Mark Twain, or Thomas Edison muttered something about insanity and the frequency of doing something that doesn't work.
    ^^^^^ Einstein I believe:) States it perfectly.
  • histora
    histora Posts: 287 Member
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    I would advise counting calories (and exercise). It works for many people on here, definitely. :-) x
    My god. It's so simple, even a caveman could do it!

    I'm trying to imagine calorie counting cave art now. Thanks.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
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    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    ~Albert Einstien
  • paulaviki
    paulaviki Posts: 678 Member
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    To be honest with you, everything that I have read here, particularly the habit of daily calorie logging and the belief that unless you know every little number attached to every little bite - you are on your way to anorexia, metabolic shut down, getting morbidly obese, or even death ...sounds like a clear prescription for weight-related obsession.

    As you can see, I come to this forum very rarely because I don't care about THINKING of my weight loss every day. So I am not sure who is closer to "obsessive behavior". Neither do I have epic goals related to weight loss, lookin' good, breaking the weight bars at the gym, working out "truly intensively" as opposed to "intensively"... or acquiring Madonna type arms.

    I mentioned the two pounds that come back up because I noticed this is what happens every time I eat a bit more - and it is indeed very annoying.

    Maybe that IS water after all, as some mentioned. I will see next week when I weigh in.

    Otherwise, arguing that I should have done calorie counting instead of spending time arguing here is a pretty weak argument as I definitely do not plan on being on this discussion forum every day.
    Calorie logging IS a daily task though. You would think this would be self-explanatory but looks like not.

    If that's the case why are you exercising intensively 4-6 times a week? Cut back on the exercise and spend some time logging recipes or just relaxing if your life is so busy you don't have time to tie shoelaces. Weight loss is mainly about your diet, exercise is really about health.

    You also need to think about the long term, are you really going to go for the rest of your life feeling hungry and unsatisfied with the food you eat? I doubt it, and if that's the case you'll just put any weight you've lost back on once you get fed up. Plus in the meantime you could seriously damage your body if you are only eating 900 calories a day!

    I think you need to take time out an evaluate your goals, you can't maintain what you are doing right now so change it before it damages your health.
  • marshall_lovee
    marshall_lovee Posts: 16
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    You must be gaining water weight, you cannot gain 2lbs of fat over night, it's natural for weight to fluctuate, on average weight fluctuates by + or - 2 lbs throughout the day due to water retention, just keep going with it, make sure you accurately log calories and accurately log your calories burnt, if you eat under your BMR, then you should loose weight, or at least maintain your weight. Good luck, your weight loss so far is amazing! it's natural for it to slow down as you get nearer to your goal, your initial loss was very quick so naturally your body will not keep this rate up forever. Good luck (: try not to get too stressed out, state of mind effects weight loss too. also jealous of naturally skinny people! :smile:
  • MANDallasTX
    MANDallasTX Posts: 36
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    Have you considered you may have a medical condition which inhibits your progress? My Doctor found my Thyroid was under performing. When this happens your body does operate effectively, which can leave to tired and cause you to not lose weight. When I got on medication for the Thyroid problem I was able to start losing.

    After a very good blood work up where I showed I was back to the low side of normal I ask my Doctor to let me decrease the dosage. WRONG WRONG WRONG. I wound up real tired and even though I really upped my exercise and watch my food I could not lose weight. When I went back on the original dosage the weight cam off and my energy levels went up.

    Bottom line if your in a holding pattern see a Doctor to see if you have medical handicap. Especially the Thyroid. It may be small, but it can make a big difference.
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
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    Hi,

    I'm not American and I cook from scratch too.

    The only equipment you need is a little pair of food scales and those little coloured teaspoon, tablespoon measurers (£2 from Asda?). Tonight I know I had 250g of sprouts (79 calories) 150g of asparagus (17 calories) and two chocolate brownies earlier weighing 150g (400 calories!).

    I have the scales out all the time now, by the kettle, and weigh everything!

    It's not so time consuming to log after a few days because the site saves your favourites so you just tick a box. Takes me 10 min a day now. Is all.

    Get stuck in!

    Jenny x
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
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    Also all the passive-aggressive rude people on here addressing the poster indirectly and calling her 'insane'. STOP.

    Play nice.
  • SanDiegoJohn
    SanDiegoJohn Posts: 12 Member
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    Now I eat intuitively, and I eat when hungry and stop when full.

    This is what I am talking about. Eating healthy and INTUITIVELY. NOW someone is getting it, finally!!! :-)

    Geez, what have people been doing for thousands of years without the tools on this forum?... and the suckers were rarely, if ever, overweight.

    I want to eat just like they were - intuitively, when hungry, stopping when decently full, NOT logging, and NOT putting on weight.
    Too much to ask?

    Yeah, I see what you did there. You selectively edited the quote so it would agree with what you want to believe. But here is the entire quote:
    Also, 'intuitive' eating is something most people cannot successfully do for weight loss. There's a process that you must go through, in order for you to become in tune with your body's cues. I'm doing it now, but I'm in maintenance and have been learning to listen to my body for almost a year. No way in heck would I have been able to do it during weight loss and lost any weight. Now I eat intuitively, and I eat when hungry and stop when full.

    You want someone to validate your choices, but that's not likely to happen when the choices seem unhealthy to the rest of us.

    I wish you good luck on your journey, but I won't pretend that I think your actions are healthy.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
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    Did someone say cat gif?

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  • Calliope610
    Calliope610 Posts: 3,775 Member
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    Now I eat intuitively, and I eat when hungry and stop when full.

    This is what I am talking about. Eating healthy and INTUITIVELY. NOW someone is getting it, finally!!! :-)

    Geez, what have people been doing for thousands of years without the tools on this forum?... and the suckers were rarely, if ever, overweight.

    I want to eat just like they were - intuitively, when hungry, stopping when decently full, NOT logging, and NOT putting on weight.
    Too much to ask?

    Thing is, I'm doing it successfully and you are not. And the reason for that is I've gone through the process of losing weight with a structured plan (alternate day IF), and through that process (counting calories, breaking bad habits like night time snacking etc), I LEARNED how to listen to my body and eat intuitively successfully. If you try doing this without first going through the process, then you will fail. I've also set up parameters for myself-I don't eat breakfast (break fast at 11am), I don't eat after 7pm, I still measure out portion sizes for nuts and seeds, olives and other higher calorie foods, I chose foods that are filling but not calorie dense (beans, oats, rice, leafy veggies etc). Even eating intuitively, I still need accountability tools to keep me on track. And again-I'm in maintenance. I did NOT eat intuitively to lose weight.

    I don't think that is the answer the OP is looking for.

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