Alcoholic Beverages

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  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    Personally I find this all very confusing. I do notice that, in spite of fitting into my cals, I tend to put on weight or break even on weeks when I have alcohol. I do need to cut it down at weekends!!
    calories in v calories out. Maybe you're not measuring your booze accurately? Plus water retention.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    u can still lose weight even if u are drinking alcohol but in moderate like once a week,once a month,once a year or in occasions only


    #hth

    I drank all the time when I lost the 100 pounds.
  • judyde
    judyde Posts: 401 Member
    Straight alcohol will almost always have less cals than the same size mixed drink.

    However, if you're in the mood, here's my fave marg recipe.

    1 1/2 oz or more REALLY GOOD Silver tequila...whatever brand you like, but get a good one.
    1 oz fresh squeezed lime juice
    1/2 to 1 oz agave nectar. I prefer 1/2 oz.

    Shake really well in shaker with ice.

    Drink that baby back.

    It's better if you're in a pool on a floatie.....

    Sounds yummy!!
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    There is no reason why you can't have alcoholic beverages if you are trying to lose weight. Whatever drinks you have are worth a certain number of calories. Factor them in like any other item in your diary and hit your goals. The only danger comes in when you drink too much and then lose the self control you need to stick to your calorie goals.
  • judyde
    judyde Posts: 401 Member
    I drink on occasion and work it into my calories for the day. I am going out for a Girls' Night Out tonight and realized I only had enough cals left for 1 glass of red wine (Malbec), so I went for a walk at lunch, and now I've got enough for 2 glasses of wine.

    I thought alcohol had a somewhat diuretic effect. I don't find I gain after drinking alcohol if it fit into my calorie goal.

    Don't deprive yourself! You'll never stick to a plan if you don't have enjoyable food and drink factored in. I had pizza for lunch and steak for dinner yesterday and lost weight!
  • choijanro
    choijanro Posts: 754 Member
    u can still lose weight even if u are drinking alcohol but in moderate like once a week,once a month,once a year or in occasions only


    #hth

    I drank all the time when I lost the 100 pounds.

    what ? are u kidding me? u mean u drink alcohol everyday and u still lose weight? ,,, but im sure maybe ur liver or kidney are not healthy or ur lungs,brain & heart, because too much alcohol can gain weight because of the calories and damage ur internal organs just like what i mention
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    I have heard that clear alcoholic beverages are "better" for you. As in they don't put a hinder on the whole weight loss thing. A personal trainer told me that alcohol slows down the metabolism for 48 hours after you consume the drinks. But then others say if it fits in your calories go for it ..

    The only part that sounds true is the very last part...
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    u can still lose weight even if u are drinking alcohol but in moderate like once a week,once a month,once a year or in occasions only


    #hth

    I drank all the time when I lost the 100 pounds.

    what ? are u kidding me? u mean u drink alcohol everyday and u still lose weight? ,,, but im sure maybe ur liver or kidney are not healthy or ur lungs,brain & heart, because too much alcohol can gain weight because of the calories and damage ur internal organs just like what i mention

    You can drink alcohol every day, at a healthy and "moderate" amount, not go over on your calories, not gain weight, and not damage your liver, kidneys, lungs, heart, brain, or other organs.
  • JusticeGirl25
    JusticeGirl25 Posts: 703 Member
    If you drink maybe one glass of wine or one beer a day, not gonna kill you.

    Oh and I have a thing for Summer Shandy. So damn good!!
  • sharae216
    sharae216 Posts: 162 Member
    Just a little helpful information from an article as to why to avoid alcohol. Take from it what you want. Everyone has different goals and wants for their bodies but a little info never hurt anyone. lol

    5 Ways Alcoholism and Alcohol Can Hurt Your Bodybuilding Progress

    Many new bodybuilding enthusiasts realize that they have to change their lifestyle if they want to become serious about building muscles.

    This includes refraining from alcohol consumption because alcohol has many adverse effects on one’s ability to gain and maintain muscle mass.

    This article discusses the five major ways alcohol can hurt your bodybuilding progress.

    First, alcohol hinders protein synthesis. Drinking alcohol slows down the process of protein synthesis by about 20%. This presents a problem because your muscles are comprised of protein.

    Second, alcohol consumption decreases testosterone in the body and increases estrogen. Testosterone, found in both men and women, is the key hormone that the body produces to build muscle.

    The amount of testosterone a person has in their body determines how much muscle they can gain. And since women have considerably lower levels of testosterone than men do, they are already at a disadvantage.

    Third, alcohol makes you dehydrated. When a person consumes alcohol, the kidneys have to work overtime to filter water throughout the body to break down the alcohol.

    Water is very important to building muscles since muscles are made up of 70% water. If your body is dehydrated it does not have enough water in it to build muscle.

    Fourth, alcohol causes the body to lose vitamins and minerals such as A, C, the B’s, calcium, zinc, and phosphorus. These vitamins and minerals are needed by your body to help it function properly, sustain muscle growth and maintenance.

    And the last major problem that alcohol causes is that it increases the amount of fat the body stores. Alcohol is actually sugar and the sugar gets converted into fat if unused.
  • verymissk
    verymissk Posts: 262 Member
    There are a lot of things in that article that are either myths, half-truths, or not peer reviewed study results. I'm not savvy enough to actually break it down, but I do hope one of the incredibly smart and well educated members will come along and help you sort this all out.
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    A few responses to parts of the article you posted, and perhaps others will have input as well.
    First, alcohol hinders protein synthesis.

    I think this has only been studied on rats and chronic alcoholics. Chronic alcoholics can suffer from something called Chronic Alcoholic Myopathy. Rat studies are hardly applicable. If alcohol actually hiders protein synthesis in normal people, I would bet it would be by a very small percentage.
    Second, alcohol consumption decreases testosterone in the body...

    True, but unless you are drinking very heavily, the decrease won't approach anything significant. The link below is a 3 week study where people were given 30-40g of alcohol daily and at the end of it all, the decrease in testosterone was 6.8% in men (no effect in women).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15166654
    And the last major problem that alcohol causes is that it increases the amount of fat the body stores. Alcohol is actually sugar and the sugar gets converted into fat if unused.

    Well, it doesn't work this way. The alcohol is converted to acetate, which is toxic and gets oxidized before (takes priority) your carbs, proteins, and fats. Emphasis on fats. Your body is very, very inefficient at turning alcohol (carbs as well) into fat. What happens is not that the alcohol turns into fat, but that since your body is oxidizing the acetate, it can't oxidize the other nutrients yet (fat). And what is left over gets stored as fat.

    So at the end of the day, the fat storage thing is still calories in/out, even with alcohol in the equation.
  • ShinyFuture
    ShinyFuture Posts: 314 Member
    www.getdrunknotfat.com

    Make it fit. I'd slap someone if they tried to take my craft beers away. I'd slap them long, hard, and make them think about what they did.

    ^^^So much THIS
  • JuantonBliss
    JuantonBliss Posts: 245 Member
    http://misc.likes.com/the-15-best-and-15-worst-beers-you-can-drink?page=30&v=eyJjbGlja19pZCI6IDE5NTU5ODQ2MjgsICJwb3N0X2lkIjogMjY1ODkzOTB9

    I actually just recently read this article on the 15 worst/15 best beers for you based on calories.
  • sharae216
    sharae216 Posts: 162 Member
    A few responses to parts of the article you posted, and perhaps others will have input as well.
    First, alcohol hinders protein synthesis.

    I think this has only been studied on rats and chronic alcoholics. Chronic alcoholics can suffer from something called Chronic Alcoholic Myopathy. Rat studies are hardly applicable. If alcohol actually hiders protein synthesis in normal people, I would bet it would be by a very small percentage.
    Second, alcohol consumption decreases testosterone in the body...

    True, but unless you are drinking very heavily, the decrease won't approach anything significant. The link below is a 3 week study where people were given 30-40g of alcohol daily and at the end of it all, the decrease in testosterone was 6.8% in men (no effect in women).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15166654
    And the last major problem that alcohol causes is that it increases the amount of fat the body stores. Alcohol is actually sugar and the sugar gets converted into fat if unused.

    Well, it doesn't work this way. The alcohol is converted to acetate, which is toxic and gets oxidized before (takes priority) your carbs, proteins, and fats. Emphasis on fats. Your body is very, very inefficient at turning alcohol (carbs as well) into fat. What happens is not that the alcohol turns into fat, but that since your body is oxidizing the acetate, it can't oxidize the other nutrients yet (fat). And what is left over gets stored as fat.

    So at the end of the day, the fat storage thing is still calories in/out, even with alcohol in the equation.

    Thanks for the breakdowns! This is why you present questions to various audiences to get better clarification!
  • Rurouni_Kou
    Rurouni_Kou Posts: 180 Member
    I have heard that clear alcoholic beverages are "better" for you. As in they don't put a hinder on the whole weight loss thing. A personal trainer told me that alcohol slows down the metabolism for 48 hours after you consume the drinks. But then others say if it fits in your calories go for it ..

    The only part that sounds true is the very last part...

    My two cents: If you like it, make room for it in your calorie counts. A calorie deficit is SOLELY responsible for weight loss. (Health and fitness is different) so if you've accounted for the alcohol and still have a deficit you'll lose weight. Questionable statements on metabolism by non-health experts ("personal trainer") be damned, they mean bupkiss.
    "Independent of the macro composition of your diet, a net negative energy balance (consuming less calories than your body needs) is alone responsible for weight loss." http://examine.com/faq/what-should-i-eat-for-weight-loss.html
    (I love the fact that this site shows the studies that back up that claim and there's like a list of 17 links to the studies after that claim. Usually on something like Wiki there's one or two, but no this one has a literal string of numbers after it to back it up. heh)
    Just a little helpful information from an article as to why to avoid alcohol. Take from it what you want. Everyone has different goals and wants for their bodies but a little info never hurt anyone. lol

    5 Ways Alcoholism and Alcohol Can Hurt Your Bodybuilding Progress

    Many new bodybuilding enthusiasts realize that they have to change their lifestyle if they want to become serious about building muscles.
    [...cut for length..]

    This isn't a "little helpful information." It's factually questionable, with no sources cited and doesn't even answer the original question but goes off into a lalaland tangent. The original question was Alcohol and __weightloss__, which is different from what you posted which was alcohol and body building. It may or may not hinder body building, but bodybuilding is not weight loss (and can be argued that it's weight gain through muscle mass if you don't have a calorie deficit to account for anything else) and really had nothing to do with answering the original posters question. It seemed more of a post trying to claim "Alcohol bad!" * as opposed to trying to show, factually that alcohol hinders weightloss- which it doesn't, as proved before it's a net energy deficit/calorie deficit that does it (plus a good 20 sources give or take, to back that claim up).


    *Disclaimer: I actually hate alcohol. I'm a supertaster, so alcohol to me tastes so bad it makes me want to cry, gives me gooseflesh and also makes my mouth burn badly. But hey if you enjoy it and want to still lose weight, then do what you enjoy and make room for it in your weightloss plan!
  • weequay
    weequay Posts: 18 Member
    Red wine or vodka with a diet drink are my two choices... wine though is way more addictive :( overall it is best to plan to stay away from any alcohol calories... those should be from eating.
  • cassondra1370
    cassondra1370 Posts: 162 Member
    I didn't see this mentioned yet, so check out getdrunknotfat.com. It lists pretty much every alcohol you can imagine based on what percentage of the calories come from alcohol (and not mixers).
  • herblackwings39
    herblackwings39 Posts: 3,930 Member
    I don't drink often, but I do on occasion enjoy a little Glenfiddich single malt scotch. It's nice and smooth and requires nothing else. I 'think' it's around 69 calories per oz.
  • notnikkisixx
    notnikkisixx Posts: 375 Member
    Straight alcohol will almost always have less cals than the same size mixed drink.

    However, if you're in the mood, here's my fave marg recipe.

    1 1/2 oz or more REALLY GOOD Silver tequila...whatever brand you like, but get a good one.
    1 oz fresh squeezed lime juice
    1/2 to 1 oz agave nectar. I prefer 1/2 oz.

    Shake really well in shaker with ice.

    Drink that baby back.

    It's better if you're in a pool on a floatie.....

    That sounds delicious! Light Agave has been saving me in the drink world. I like to mix vodka with lemon juice, a little light agave, and club soda.

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