Lost a little now want to quit?

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  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
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    Am I understanding this correctly that you are eating 800 calories a day? If I ate that, I would want to quit too.

    This. You are not eating healthy and are losing both fat and muscle. You should quit, and starting eating like a person should.

    ETA keep in mind your heart is a muscle. Eating so low can damage muscles. You see where I am going with this.
  • taliar93
    taliar93 Posts: 111 Member
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    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/


    You don't have to listen to me, my ticker does the talking. To become a "Nutritionist" it's pretty much a one day course from what I've heard and seen, and a lot of them are still plugging away outdated beliefs on weight loss (Anyone been suggested rice cakes?) 800-1000 Calories is crash course dieting, I did it for two months at the start of my journey because I was at 242lbs, and even then it was stupid of me, the only people that are specifically put on diets this low by Dietitians, are people that are around the 400lb mark, or are so large they cannot be weighed unless it's one of those special Hospital scales.
  • tstarrstamper
    tstarrstamper Posts: 24 Member
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    Because its so strict... not because I feel bad.
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
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    You want to quit because you're so restricted. I'll echo what the others have said and advise you to ditch the doc. You'd be surprised, perhaps, to know that many doctors are actually kinda quacky. You don't need to be living on 800 calories and supplements. Now, go make a sandwich, and enjoy that delicious bread. Welcome back to the real world.
  • im_analog
    im_analog Posts: 8
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    OP, this is ridiculous. Please for the love of god don't listen to anyone here.

    Your DOCTOR has a PHD in NUTRITION. A PhD in Nutrition requires 5 or more years of full-time nutrition study plus a doctoral thesis approved by a panel of experts usually with 20+ years of full time research and study.

    People here mean well but all the advice you'll get is heavily colored by their personal experiences and feelings. You are working with an expert who knows your medical history and situation, if you have concerns about your diet then talk to her.
  • tstarrstamper
    tstarrstamper Posts: 24 Member
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    Okay well this is just mind blowing to me... after the last 3 months of this... I feel lost...

    Like where do I start.... what do I eat and of what do I eat..?

    Im over whelmed...
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
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    I wonder what kind of qualification your " nutritionist " has to put you on such a low cal and/or strict diet. I would probably go for a second opinion and would not eat such a severely restrictive diet, especially if it is for weight loss, because it can't be for health.

    My qualification to say this ? A MA in Nutritional Science from Tufts University......and 33 pounds lost in 4 month.
  • rkcampbell
    rkcampbell Posts: 188 Member
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    OP, this is ridiculous. Please for the love of god don't listen to anyone here.

    Your DOCTOR has a PHD in NUTRITION. A PhD in Nutrition requires 5 or more years of full-time nutrition study plus a doctoral thesis approved by a panel of experts usually with 20+ years of full time research and study.

    People here mean well but all the advice you'll get is heavily colored by their personal experiences and feelings. You are working with an expert who knows your medical history and situation, if you have concerns about your diet then talk to her.

    Actually her bio says she is a "family doctor" not a nutritionist or dietician.
  • tstarrstamper
    tstarrstamper Posts: 24 Member
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    I have an appointment with her on Monday morning at 8 am...so hopefully this isn't a scam like everyone is saying.

    What questions should I ask her to make sure I am heading down the right way??


    This one of the questions I have for her so far...
    1. Starvation Mode... am I hurting myself? or does it not apply because of the protein supplements?
  • rkcampbell
    rkcampbell Posts: 188 Member
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    Honestly, I'd get a second opinion from another professional. Of course she's going to give you the answers you want to hear. She's going to tell you why this will work for you. And it probably will. But it's not sustainable. Are you planning on doing this forever? As soon as you start eating more normally for maintenance, you will gain it back.
  • TribeHokie
    TribeHokie Posts: 711 Member
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    Add another vote to the "fire the nutritionist" camp. I may not have lost 312 lbs but I do know that no nutritionist or dietitian worth their salt would advise anyone eat under 1200 calories.

    As for your motivation, perhaps try switching up your routine? Start eating more and set some non-weight goals, like running distances/times or lifting amounts so that you have something else to look forward to besides just what the scale says.Or if you're happy where you are stay where you are. 133 for you is within the normal BMI range yes? There's nothing wrong with moving to maintenance for awhile and reassessing what you want.
  • im_analog
    im_analog Posts: 8
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    OP said she had "real Phd in nutrition"
    Sorry this is where I go...

    http://www.calgaryweightlossclinic.com/

    Her name is Dr. Burke. and she has a real Phd in nutrition.

    So I was going off of that.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    I have an appointment with her on Monday morning at 8 am...so hopefully this isn't a scam like everyone is saying.

    What questions should I ask her to make sure I am heading down the right way??


    This one of the questions I have for her so far...
    1. Starvation Mode... am I hurting myself? or does it not apply because of the protein supplements?

    Ask her if she realized that a certain amount of fat (outside the EFAs) is necessarily for hormonal balance. Also, ask her if she realizes that there is a limit on the amount of fat you can oxidize in a day. Ask her if she thinks that this ridiculously low calorie target is good for adherence and whether a sustainable diet is better than one you fall of the wagon because of because it is so restrictive. Ask her if she is aware of the type of strength training you are doing (if any) and what effect this diet has on it. Ask her what amount of protein she thinks is necessary for maintenance of LBM and whether the protein supplements are appropriate for this. Ask her for support for any claims she is making.

    There are a few to start with.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    OP said she had "real Phd in nutrition"
    Sorry this is where I go...

    http://www.calgaryweightlossclinic.com/

    Her name is Dr. Burke. and she has a real Phd in nutrition.

    So I was going off of that.

    I'd either read what I posted (which I got from the website) or go to the website and look.
  • S0nsh1ne
    S0nsh1ne Posts: 218 Member
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    http://www.walkingspree.com/results/success-stories/peggy/

    Is this her?
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
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    OP, this is ridiculous. Please for the love of god don't listen to anyone here.

    Your DOCTOR has a PHD in NUTRITION. A PhD in Nutrition requires 5 or more years of full-time nutrition study plus a doctoral thesis approved by a panel of experts usually with 20+ years of full time research and study.

    People here mean well but all the advice you'll get is heavily colored by their personal experiences and feelings. You are working with an expert who knows your medical history and situation, if you have concerns about your diet then talk to her.

    You are mistaken. There is a difference between an MD in Nutrition and a PHD in Nutrition. The later does not require five years of study and can be focussed on different elements of nutrition and often is a degree that focusses on research. I have for example a Master of Nutritional Science and Humanitarian Assistance, which yes is nutritional science, but a completely different area of nutrition., but I am a nutritional specialist... just not for weightloss unless it is general. If the OP's therapist has a PHD in nutrition, that is something, but one would need to know what specialisation she has to know if she is really qualified to work in this field.

    BTW: in many countries just about anyone can open a weight loss clinic.
  • im_analog
    im_analog Posts: 8
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    I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.

    I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.

    Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
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    The majority of weight-loss clinics have one main goal -- to make money. All you need to lose weight is a calorie deficit. You can eat bread, drink pop, have cake. I wouldn't jump right from 800 to 1800 calories or anything drastic all at once. Work your way up to a healthy calorie range over the next few weeks.
  • im_analog
    im_analog Posts: 8
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    OP, this is ridiculous. Please for the love of god don't listen to anyone here.

    Your DOCTOR has a PHD in NUTRITION. A PhD in Nutrition requires 5 or more years of full-time nutrition study plus a doctoral thesis approved by a panel of experts usually with 20+ years of full time research and study.

    People here mean well but all the advice you'll get is heavily colored by their personal experiences and feelings. You are working with an expert who knows your medical history and situation, if you have concerns about your diet then talk to her.

    You are mistaken. There is a difference between an MD in Nutrition and a PHD in Nutrition. The later does not require five years of study and can be focussed on different elements of nutrition and often is a degree that focusses on research. I have for example a Master of Nutritional Science and Humanitarian Assistance, which yes is nutritional science, but a completely different area of nutrition., but I am a nutritional specialist... just not for weightloss unless it is general. If the OP's therapist has a PHD in nutrition, that is something, but one would need to know what specialisation she has to know if she is really qualified to work in this field.

    And she did say, earlier in this thread, that the therapist has a "real PhD in nutrition" however looking at the clinic's site, that does not appear to be the case. Had some bad info from the OP.
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
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    I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.

    I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.

    Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here

    By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MFP and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.

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