Lost a little now want to quit?
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Add another vote to the "fire the nutritionist" camp. I may not have lost 312 lbs but I do know that no nutritionist or dietitian worth their salt would advise anyone eat under 1200 calories.
As for your motivation, perhaps try switching up your routine? Start eating more and set some non-weight goals, like running distances/times or lifting amounts so that you have something else to look forward to besides just what the scale says.Or if you're happy where you are stay where you are. 133 for you is within the normal BMI range yes? There's nothing wrong with moving to maintenance for awhile and reassessing what you want.0 -
OP said she had "real Phd in nutrition"Sorry this is where I go...
http://www.calgaryweightlossclinic.com/
Her name is Dr. Burke. and she has a real Phd in nutrition.
So I was going off of that.0 -
I have an appointment with her on Monday morning at 8 am...so hopefully this isn't a scam like everyone is saying.
What questions should I ask her to make sure I am heading down the right way??
This one of the questions I have for her so far...
1. Starvation Mode... am I hurting myself? or does it not apply because of the protein supplements?
Ask her if she realized that a certain amount of fat (outside the EFAs) is necessarily for hormonal balance. Also, ask her if she realizes that there is a limit on the amount of fat you can oxidize in a day. Ask her if she thinks that this ridiculously low calorie target is good for adherence and whether a sustainable diet is better than one you fall of the wagon because of because it is so restrictive. Ask her if she is aware of the type of strength training you are doing (if any) and what effect this diet has on it. Ask her what amount of protein she thinks is necessary for maintenance of LBM and whether the protein supplements are appropriate for this. Ask her for support for any claims she is making.
There are a few to start with.0 -
OP said she had "real Phd in nutrition"Sorry this is where I go...
http://www.calgaryweightlossclinic.com/
Her name is Dr. Burke. and she has a real Phd in nutrition.
So I was going off of that.
I'd either read what I posted (which I got from the website) or go to the website and look.0 -
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OP, this is ridiculous. Please for the love of god don't listen to anyone here.
Your DOCTOR has a PHD in NUTRITION. A PhD in Nutrition requires 5 or more years of full-time nutrition study plus a doctoral thesis approved by a panel of experts usually with 20+ years of full time research and study.
People here mean well but all the advice you'll get is heavily colored by their personal experiences and feelings. You are working with an expert who knows your medical history and situation, if you have concerns about your diet then talk to her.
You are mistaken. There is a difference between an MD in Nutrition and a PHD in Nutrition. The later does not require five years of study and can be focussed on different elements of nutrition and often is a degree that focusses on research. I have for example a Master of Nutritional Science and Humanitarian Assistance, which yes is nutritional science, but a completely different area of nutrition., but I am a nutritional specialist... just not for weightloss unless it is general. If the OP's therapist has a PHD in nutrition, that is something, but one would need to know what specialisation she has to know if she is really qualified to work in this field.
BTW: in many countries just about anyone can open a weight loss clinic.0 -
I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here0 -
The majority of weight-loss clinics have one main goal -- to make money. All you need to lose weight is a calorie deficit. You can eat bread, drink pop, have cake. I wouldn't jump right from 800 to 1800 calories or anything drastic all at once. Work your way up to a healthy calorie range over the next few weeks.0
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OP, this is ridiculous. Please for the love of god don't listen to anyone here.
Your DOCTOR has a PHD in NUTRITION. A PhD in Nutrition requires 5 or more years of full-time nutrition study plus a doctoral thesis approved by a panel of experts usually with 20+ years of full time research and study.
People here mean well but all the advice you'll get is heavily colored by their personal experiences and feelings. You are working with an expert who knows your medical history and situation, if you have concerns about your diet then talk to her.
You are mistaken. There is a difference between an MD in Nutrition and a PHD in Nutrition. The later does not require five years of study and can be focussed on different elements of nutrition and often is a degree that focusses on research. I have for example a Master of Nutritional Science and Humanitarian Assistance, which yes is nutritional science, but a completely different area of nutrition., but I am a nutritional specialist... just not for weightloss unless it is general. If the OP's therapist has a PHD in nutrition, that is something, but one would need to know what specialisation she has to know if she is really qualified to work in this field.
And she did say, earlier in this thread, that the therapist has a "real PhD in nutrition" however looking at the clinic's site, that does not appear to be the case. Had some bad info from the OP.0 -
I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MFP and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.0 -
The majority of weight-loss clinics have one main goal -- to make money. All you need to lose weight is a calorie deficit. You can eat bread, drink pop, have cake. I wouldn't jump right from 800 to 1800 calories or anything drastic all at once. Work your way up to a healthy calorie range over the next few weeks.
^^^^^This.
It is not at all necessary to be that restricted.0 -
There are medically justifiable reasons for 800 calorie diets, but they're only appropriate for extreme, life threatening obesity and under very close doctor supervision (regular blood and hormone tests, etc), Never for perfectly healthy young women who are barely even overweight.0
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I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MPF and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.
Kind of makes the forums redundant also. There is always chit chat, fun and games I suppose.0 -
I would be really suspicious of someone who would give me supplements instead of healthful food.....unless of course there would be a severe reason to not be able to eat that food, like having my mouth wired shut after a broken jaw, or stomach cancer. I would be especially suspicious if my therapist would take such drastic ( and surely also costly , because I figure the clinic sells you the supplements ) measures for such a insignificant weight loss.0
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I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MFP and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.
Agreed...... I only have 4 years experience of trial and error losing a few pounds so what the heck do I know.... lol :drinker:0 -
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Ask her if she realized that a certain amount of fat (outside the EFAs) is necessarily for hormonal balance. Also, ask her if she realizes that there is a limit on the amount of fat you can oxidize in a day. Ask her if she thinks that this ridiculously low calorie target is good for adherence and whether a sustainable diet is better than one you fall of the wagon because of because it is so restrictive. Ask her if she is aware of the type of strength training you are doing (if any) and what effect this diet has on it. Ask her what amount of protein she thinks is necessary for maintenance of LBM and whether the protein supplements are appropriate for this. Ask her for support for any claims she is making.
There are a few to start with.
This. Ask This.0 -
I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MPF and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.
By "experts" I mean people who have found something that worked for them and assume their anecdotal evidence is proof that their system will work for everyone. One person's personal experience losing weight is one thing but 20+ years of working in a weight loss clinic as an MD is something totally different.
When you go to the dentist and the dentist says, "You have a cavity, I'm going to fill it." Do you go, "Well hold on doc, let me go ask the people in the waiting room what they think, because maybe some of them have had something similar and would recommend something different."
If you think your nutritionist isn't working for you, then go to a different nutritionist - don't go asking a bunch of random people online what they think about your diet.0 -
I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MPF and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.
By "experts" I mean people who have found something that worked for them and assume their anecdotal evidence is proof that their system will work for everyone. One person's personal experience losing weight is one thing but 20+ years of working in a weight loss clinic as an MD is something totally different.
When you go to the dentist and the dentist says, "You have a cavity, I'm going to fill it." Do you go, "Well hold on doc, let me go ask the people in the waiting room what they think, because maybe some of them have had something similar and would recommend something different."
If you think your nutritionist isn't working for you, then go to a different nutritionist - don't go asking a bunch of random people online what they think about your diet.
Like which advice specifically?0 -
No haha not unless she had plastic surgery.0
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Sorry!! about my misleading statement.
my bad. 0 -
Sorry!! about my misleading statement. my bad.
No biggie! Good luck to you0 -
You don't need a weight loss clinic to lose 25 pounds. And you definitely need to eat more. Jeez, have some bread!
This^ 100% agree! You don't need a clinic to lose 25 pounds... the advice given before me is solid advice and should be taken seriously. Good luck.0 -
I vote that you should start eating healthy instead. You'll also maintain your weight loss!0
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How do I do this... just eat fruit and veggies and what not?0
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I went and looked and I agree, I'm just saying that I was going off what the OP said. Don't know why the OP claimed she had a Nutrition PhD if she was an MD.
I agree. She is an MD with background working in nutrition now.
Still, OP is WAY better off talking with either her nutritionist or getting a second opinion than she is asking the people here for advice - too many "experts" on here
By "experts," you mean normal people who have successfully lost weight using MPF and eating real food? Right. There are a lot of those here.
By "experts" I mean people who have found something that worked for them and assume their anecdotal evidence is proof that their system will work for everyone. One person's personal experience losing weight is one thing but 20+ years of working in a weight loss clinic as an MD is something totally different.
When you go to the dentist and the dentist says, "You have a cavity, I'm going to fill it." Do you go, "Well hold on doc, let me go ask the people in the waiting room what they think, because maybe some of them have had something similar and would recommend something different."
If you think your nutritionist isn't working for you, then go to a different nutritionist - don't go asking a bunch of random people online what they think about your diet.
Yeah because we obviously have this magical secret way of losing weight it is called eating in a respectable caloric deficit and making sure you are hitting all your macro and micro nutrient needs daily and get off your behind and get in some exercise.... At some point everyone will have to come to this understanding of weight loss. That is if they actually want to lose weight but again OP take mine or anyone else advice here with a grain of salt. Best of Luck0 -
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How do I do this... just eat fruit and veggies and what not?
Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants0 -
If you think your nutritionist isn't working for you, then go to a different nutritionist - don't go asking a bunch of random people online what they think about your diet.
I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but that's what the forum is for.0 -
Actually I'm a little surprised your trainer hasn't asked about your diet. And why your trainer would train you if he/she knew you are on such a restricted diet.0
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