The Real Reason We're Fat (or Some of Us, Anyway)
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It was a general comment on society, inspired by a specific observed event.I am not sure what to say to this. I guess the first thing comes to mind is that for ppl such as myself, morbidly obese, it is a struggle to walk. Everything hurts, knee's back, legs, everything! And yes, it is painful to walk 86 steps to get water at a fountain, BUT at least she is drinking water! Maybe she has not made decision to lose weight yet. Who knows? I guess I don't understand why you would come on this site and talk about it? Yes, some ppl are lazy, some ppl haven't hit rock bottom yet, I don't see the need the talk crap about them. Words of encouragement go a lot farther than ridicule and judgement.....just saying.
In this very thread, someone is blaming sugar and fat and ignoring that people will not walk a few steps to a water fountain or will fight over parking spaces to avoid taking a few extra steps.
There is an ongoing thread blaming restaurant portions for obesity. I'm saying it isn't restaurant portions or sugar or anything like that. It's the trend of people trying to avoid all physical activity.0 -
Yep. Laziness is probably one of the biggest reasons why many of us are overweight.
That is more than mildly ridiculous about your coworker complaining about it being too far to walk for water :huh: I don't even know what to say to that. And you say it's next to the bathroom - so does she complain about how far the bathroom is too? :laugh:
They all have pee bottles under their desks.
That was my thought, or Depends.0 -
Can they not get water in the cafeteria?0
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I started here morbidly obese. Resolved to change it, turned everything around, now I'm doing it.
Some people go to the doctor and get on plans. They're turning it around too.
At the end of the day, we all did this to ourselves. There's a million and one reasons why, of course and we've all become pros at explaining why we look the way we do (I broke my leg and got fat, I hate myself, body issues, had a kid, I'm big boned, thyroid lol, whatever) but really it's all on us. We did it. And its on us to undo it.
And after dumping over 50 pounds of pure fat since June, I've come to understand that any reasoning that keeps you from the body you want is simply an excuse. There's no real reason for that other than "I don't want this". Period.0 -
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I saw what you posted. I didn't say who they are and I have not said anything TO them and I wouldn't. How am I not leaving them alone?
For the record, if they're happy with their weight and themselves, that is perfectly fine. I really don't care.
You missed my point entirely.0 -
At least they are drinking water.
Could have been a 2L bottle of pop on their desk...0 -
What a lazy pig.... i thought i was bad... LOL0
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I drink too much water and actually will stop myself from getting water at work because I realized I was hogging it all. We had to start order an extra water cooler bottle every week because of me.
But...I know that laziness is definitely a factor in weight gain, yet there is also an emotional and mental aspect to it for many as well. Hopefully she finds the guidance she needs.
I also have a co worker who got lapband surgery, refused to exercise and change her eating habits. She was crying to me about how she gained back all she lost. I offered to go for walks with her during lunch, or even after work. She told me she has a treadmill at home.
People will make excuses no matter what. Just focus on you and wish them the best.0 -
If you really wanna see a big reason for us being fat read the book "sugar,salt,fat" the American diet makes it hard for us to maintain or lose weight already and once you get that big it hurts to walk long distances. essentially they're stuck once they get that big unless they can afford to pay someone to really help them lose weight, because now if they try it alone, there's a really good chance they'll just end up hurting themselves, and at a certain weight the bones begin to take a loner time to heal much like when you get older. On top of that being injured it's also makes it easy to gain weight because of the level of inactivity becomes even higher.
No, people's personal diets make them get big. People need to take responsibility.0 -
My agency merged with another and we're in two different buildings. Some people from the other agency got moved into ours and three of them sit behind me. All three are overweight, two probably close to (or possible there) morbidly obese.
Today, for the second time, one of the heavier women is complaining about how far away the water fountain is. I counted. From my desk to the water fountain is 86 steps.
She has started getting ice from the cafeteria (slightly closer) and letting it melt instead of walking to the fountain for water.
That is really sad. I mean d*mn! How lazy can you be?? :noway:0 -
While I'm not saying I'm not lazy, because I really can be. I think the reason I'm fat is food, not as much with the lazy. My job in on my feet walking around all day, and at times going up and down stair many times a day.. but I still don't lose weight because I do well all week then drink and overeat most weekends. I eat for emotional reasons. I eat because it is "time to eat", I eat because I smell something yummy and don't think it through to resist, I eat when I'm bored, stressed, happy, sad, angry, pretty much everything. I'm fat because I can't keep my mouth shut and food out of it and I know it.0
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I get what the OP meant to say. People will fight for parking spots to avoid walking an extra 100 steps, people are blissfully unaware of the calorie content of their foods and it's a recipe for disaster. I don't think the OP meant for this post to come acruss as judgy, but some of the responses... my lord. "lazy pig?" seriously?0
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Yes! Thank you. :-)I get what the OP meant to say. People will fight for parking spots to avoid walking an extra 100 steps, people are blissfully unaware of the calorie content of their foods and it's a recipe for disaster. I don't think the OP meant for this post to come acruss as judgy, but some of the responses... my lord. "lazy pig?" seriously?
I wasn't too thrilled with some of the responses, either. I reported that first one, but apparently the mods don't have an issue with it since it's been hours.
I guess I didn't communicate clearly. I really don't care if people are happy with how they are and choose to stay that way. I don't even care if they're not and still don't do anything about it (unless you're complaining to me constantly because that's annoying). I was just commenting on the state of society in general and that made me think of it.
And for the record, this particular person is quite loud and everyone in the general area heard her complaining the first time and a LOT of people have commented on it.0 -
I see an EEO complaint coming soon, then again if they have to walk to HR you might be safe!!!0
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Um ... I am not their supervisor and no one is not getting a raise or not getting hired (or fired). What would the EEO complaint be, exactly?I see an EEO complaint coming soon, then again if they have to walk to HR then you might be safe!!!0 -
RML I too agree that there were a couple unnecessary posts.
But also agree with that is how people are now, unfortunately. When I was in my prime state of obsesity, I would never complain about how far anything is...but it would be a bit difficult going the distance.
Know what I started doing at work...I worked on the 10th floor. Was doing stairs. I set a goal one set every week. So go 1 floor, then take the elevator up the rest. Next week, go up 2 floors, and repeat.
Maybe if you are feeling really enthusiastic you might want to get an office "stair club" going. But that is very ambitious. Luckily I work in an office now where everyone is a health nut!0 -
If you really wanna see a big reason for us being fat read the book "sugar,salt,fat" the American diet makes it hard for us to maintain or lose weight already and once you get that big it hurts to walk long distances. essentially they're stuck once they get that big unless they can afford to pay someone to really help them lose weight, because now if they try it alone, there's a really good chance they'll just end up hurting themselves, and at a certain weight the bones begin to take a loner time to heal much like when you get older. On top of that being injured it's also makes it easy to gain weight because of the level of inactivity becomes even higher.
No, people's personal diets make them get big. People need to take responsibility.
so do the companies. To put all the blame on the people is not fair.
food can be as big of an addiction as cigarette's but just because you've mastered the healthy eating art doesn't mean it's fair for you or even me to go around judging
and if it was all diet then what would be the point of exercise?0 -
Where I work our department had 2 restrooms in our area, each containing 2 stalls ( keep in mind there are other restroom throughout the building), the woman complained about having to walk to other parts of the building since they outnumbered the men in the department. To make a long story short they made the mens restroom into another ladies room making the guys walk to the other part of the building. After a month or so from the men complaining they put it back. I just think people aren't happy unless their complaining about something. Also I was kind of making a joke about EEO, but the above actually happened within the last year.0
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Maybe if you are feeling really enthusiastic you might want to get an office "stair club" going. But that is very ambitious.
I used to work on the third floor and took the stairs every day -- never the elevator.
Unfortunately, we do not have access to stairs in this building.0 -
My brother is morbidly obese and while my dad thinks he's too lazy to get up and do anything, I think he's in too much pain!
I see your point about laziness but unless you know they are actually being lazy then I wouldn't be quick to pass judgement. I work in a place where a lot of morbidly obese people have scooters and will run you down in the hallway to go get their McDonalds or their smoke breaks, I see it everyday when I take my service dog out for a break and a short walk at lunch so I can get a break, now I think those people are lazy but I've seen them for years doing the same behaviors and having to get bigger scooters. But I also see a lot of morbidly obese people at work struggling to walk down the hallway to get water because of the pain they are in.
My point is does it matter what got you there when you still have to deal with the consequences? Since I have lost weight my chronic pain issues have almost disappeared but it took a long time and I do still have pain. Maybe that's what your co-workers are dealing with and they just haven't admitted it to themselves yet.0 -
I get what the OP meant to say. People will fight for parking spots to avoid walking an extra 100 steps, people are blissfully unaware of the calorie content of their foods and it's a recipe for disaster. I don't think the OP meant for this post to come acruss as judgy, but some of the responses... my lord. "lazy pig?" seriously?
I agree! It is the general state of society. And the OP specifically has stated that she simply overheard this, nothing more. Sheesh, some people need to chill out.0 -
Where I work our department had 2 restrooms in our area, each containing 2 stalls ( keep in mind there are other restroom throughout the building), the woman complained about having to walk to other parts of the building since they outnumbered the men in the department. To make a long story short they made the mens restroom into another ladies room making the guys walk to the other part of the building. After a month or so from the men complaining they put it back. I just think people aren't happy unless their complaining about something. Also I was kind of making a joke about EEO, but the above actually happened within the last year.
Ah. OK.
What a screwy situation! Honestly, I would prefer to have to walk farther and be forced to move more!0 -
...and the sad thing is that coworker has probably never even considered that walk to the water fountain be a positive thing in her favor for better health and overall well being ....
I have a relative who is very dear to me who is a highly motivated 30 year old fulltime student, wife, mother of 2 boys the older she has encouraged to stay active in sports the younger is only 2 years old, she works part time outside the home, she wakes up every day hurting in both her feet, knees, and hips short of breath, she is unable to play as intensely as she would like with her children, she is flat footed can't seem to find correctly supportive walking shoes, she and her husband have no health insurance through their employers so she can't afford to get any specialty medical advice , she buys/cooks healthy food choices (after being raised in a stepmothers home where everything was fried most of her life with fast food the more regular choice for the stepmother's convenience leaving her a size 22 teenager by age 19) since then she has had some success with adkins diet lost 40 lbs in a year, but she would consistently exercise if somehow she could without being in extreme joint pain, she has tried bicycling, gazelle "treadmill", zumba, she is very discouraged....
Lately I've talked to her about stretching band training to just keep trying to encourage her to do what she can and keep moving forward..... Any encouraging physical activity suggestions out there for people live with that kind of daily discomfort?0 -
So you're saying we're fat cos we're lazy?
Ok.0 -
Wow! That is just all kinds of sad.0
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Can she get to a pool? Swimming would be ideal....and the sad thing is that coworker has probably never even considered that walk to the water fountain be a positive thing in her favor for better health and overall well being ....
I have a relative who is very dear to me who is a highly motivated 30 year old fulltime student, wife, mother of 2 boys the older she has encouraged to stay active in sports the younger is only 2 years old, she works part time outside the home, she wakes up every day hurting in both her feet, knees, and hips short of breath, she is unable to play as intensely as she would like with her children, she is flat footed can't seem to find correctly supportive walking shoes, she and her husband have no health insurance through their employers so she can't afford to get any specialty medical advice , she buys/cooks healthy food choices (after being raised in a stepmothers home where everything was fried most of her life with fast food the more regular choice for the stepmother's convenience leaving her a size 22 teenager by age 19) since then she has had some success with adkins diet lost 40 lbs in a year, but she would consistently exercise if somehow she could without being in extreme joint pain, she has tried bicycling, gazelle "treadmill", zumba, she is very discouraged....
Lately I've talked to her about stretching band training to just keep trying to encourage her to do what she can and keep moving forward..... Any suggestions at there0 -
That is... dedication? And sad.My agency merged with another and we're in two different buildings. Some people from the other agency got moved into ours and three of them sit behind me. All three are overweight, two probably close to (or possible there) morbidly obese.
Today, for the second time, one of the heavier women is complaining about how far away the water fountain is. I counted. From my desk to the water fountain is 86 steps.
She has started getting ice from the cafeteria (slightly closer) and letting it melt instead of walking to the fountain for water.0 -
I have but one thought about this matter.
Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that you be not judged.
You said yourself, you don't know these women. There are numerous reasons for people being overweight. In my opinion ... enough said.0
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