Paleo: Do I Have to Eat All That Meat?

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  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
    No, you don't just need "lean" proteins. Good fats actually come from animals, especially if they are grass fed or wild. We need saturated and omega 3 fats.

    Anyway, I've been Primal, and recently Paleo, for well over a year and I rarely have over 8 ounces per day of meat. I'm ketogenic so as long as I eat lots of fat, I have no need to eat huge volumes of food. I save money eating less but better food. True story.

    Oh, and next time, you should post in the Primal/Paleo support group. Many MFP members have a huge hate-on for all things Paleo so things get very silly and those of us who actually have first-hand experience with this lifestyle get extremely ridiculed.

    Edit: If you see this lifestyle as a "diet" and are not on board with the premise in the first place, I don't think it's the "diet" for you.

    I don't think you're on board with the premise either

    From Cordain,

    "The Paleo Diet is based upon everyday, modern foods that mimic the food groups of our pre-agricultural, hunter-gatherer ancestors."

    So high carb, moderate protein, moderate fat and low sat fat intake

    The original book The Paleo Diet by Dr. Cordain has many flaws and it is unhealthy for me to eat such a low amount of fat. I do not follow his advice, nor do I follow any one person's advice totally. I'm quite capable of trying different things, making observations, and adjusting. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. But the first sentence you quoted makes sense. But just because SAD is high in carbs doesn't make it wise to model a Paleo lifestyle on that. Come on, quit being silly. Low saturated fat intake is a good way to get sick, but good luck with that. Oh, you are aware that Cordain recommended lean protein on the assumption that most people would be eating grain fed meat; right? You are aware that he has modified his stance; right?
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
    also nevermind the fact that those people were significantly smaller than us and could subsist on less food than us.
    It was in the article posted that they were similar heights to us (it was after agricultural began that humans got shorter).
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    No, you don't just need "lean" proteins. Good fats actually come from animals, especially if they are grass fed or wild. We need saturated and omega 3 fats.

    Anyway, I've been Primal, and recently Paleo, for well over a year and I rarely have over 8 ounces per day of meat. I'm ketogenic so as long as I eat lots of fat, I have no need to eat huge volumes of food. I save money eating less but better food. True story.

    Oh, and next time, you should post in the Primal/Paleo support group. Many MFP members have a huge hate-on for all things Paleo so things get very silly and those of us who actually have first-hand experience with this lifestyle get extremely ridiculed.

    Edit: If you see this lifestyle as a "diet" and are not on board with the premise in the first place, I don't think it's the "diet" for you.

    I don't think you're on board with the premise either

    From Cordain,

    "The Paleo Diet is based upon everyday, modern foods that mimic the food groups of our pre-agricultural, hunter-gatherer ancestors."

    So high carb, moderate protein, moderate fat and low sat fat intake

    The original book The Paleo Diet by Dr. Cordain has many flaws and it is unhealthy for me to eat such a low amount of fat. I do not follow his advice, nor do I follow any one person's advice totally. I'm quite capable of trying different things, making observations, and adjusting. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. But the first sentence you quoted makes sense. But just because SAD is high in carbs doesn't make it wise to model a Paleo lifestyle on that. Come on, quit being silly. Low saturated fat intake is a good way to get sick, but good luck with that. Oh, you are aware that Cordain recommended lean protein on the assumption that most people would be eating grain fed meat; right? You are aware that he has modified his stance; right?

    Read the study, then read Cordain's premise of the diet, then see where the high carb comment came from
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    No, you don't just need "lean" proteins. Good fats actually come from animals, especially if they are grass fed or wild. We need saturated and omega 3 fats.

    Anyway, I've been Primal, and recently Paleo, for well over a year and I rarely have over 8 ounces per day of meat. I'm ketogenic so as long as I eat lots of fat, I have no need to eat huge volumes of food. I save money eating less but better food. True story.

    Oh, and next time, you should post in the Primal/Paleo support group. Many MFP members have a huge hate-on for all things Paleo so things get very silly and those of us who actually have first-hand experience with this lifestyle get extremely ridiculed.

    Edit: If you see this lifestyle as a "diet" and are not on board with the premise in the first place, I don't think it's the "diet" for you.

    I don't think you're on board with the premise either

    From Cordain,

    "The Paleo Diet is based upon everyday, modern foods that mimic the food groups of our pre-agricultural, hunter-gatherer ancestors."

    So high carb, moderate protein, moderate fat and low sat fat intake

    The original book The Paleo Diet by Dr. Cordain has many flaws and it is unhealthy for me to eat such a low amount of fat. I do not follow his advice, nor do I follow any one person's advice totally. I'm quite capable of trying different things, making observations, and adjusting. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. But the first sentence you quoted makes sense. But just because SAD is high in carbs doesn't make it wise to model a Paleo lifestyle on that. Come on, quit being silly. Low saturated fat intake is a good way to get sick, but good luck with that. Oh, you are aware that Cordain recommended lean protein on the assumption that most people would be eating grain fed meat; right? You are aware that he has modified his stance; right?

    Read the study, then read Cordain's premise of the diet, then see where the high carb comment came from

    can you quote for me where he supports high carb diets?
  • bradlette
    bradlette Posts: 8 Member
    You better eat all the meat fast, since the smell with attract other paleo tribes and they will attack

    Good one, made me laugh. I will tell this to my boyfriend, who always cautions me not to eat too much meat, but thinks cavemen jokes are hilarious.
  • bradlette
    bradlette Posts: 8 Member
    So on Sunday I'm officially starting the Paleo diet for a month (I'd start it now but I have a lot of dairy in the fridge to use up, and as a student I can't really afford to waste it). I'm very interested in this "diet" because the natural way of eating greatly interests me. However, the diet consists mainly of lean meats & proteins, veggies, and good fats. But they want meat at *every* meal! I'm not a big meat eater, never have been. I really enjoy it, and I'll eat a steak, a chicken or a burger, but I rarely have meat outside dinner. It's also expensive. How to I get around this? I'm all for eating meat, but every day, every meal? Any ideas?

    *Edit for grammar.

    Well, this is a topic near and dear to my heart, because I was a vegetarian for 18 years. I first started Paleo several years ago to clear up skin issues, and it was very hard to get used to eating meat regularly, even though it made me feel amazing. Some days, I had "meat fatigue" and just couldn't bring myself to prepare it. Back then, I ate mostly eggs, fish, and chicken, but eventually drifted back to a Standard American Diet with occasional meat.

    Fast forward to this year: I decided to eat more strictly Paleo again, but now eat quite a lot of bacon, steak, and lamb. It has been a lot easier this time, and I rarely feel hungry. HOWEVER, I do still get "meat fatigue" some days. Unfortunately, I have found that if I skip eating meat, I kind of "crash" and get very hungry. The regular protein just seems to keep me feeling steady. For these meat aversion moments, I try to keep smoked fish, uncured salami, or raw cheese around. These things are not as nutritious, but are great to keep me going when I don't feel like grilling up a slab of bloody flesh!

    Yeah, this diet can be expensive, but I am eating way less processed food and restaurant meals, so it kind of evens out. Going directly to local butchers can be much cheaper than getting meat at the supermarket. I also have a vegetable CSA is summer and am looking into finding a meat CSA too. Hope this helps.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    No, you don't just need "lean" proteins. Good fats actually come from animals, especially if they are grass fed or wild. We need saturated and omega 3 fats.

    Anyway, I've been Primal, and recently Paleo, for well over a year and I rarely have over 8 ounces per day of meat. I'm ketogenic so as long as I eat lots of fat, I have no need to eat huge volumes of food. I save money eating less but better food. True story.

    Oh, and next time, you should post in the Primal/Paleo support group. Many MFP members have a huge hate-on for all things Paleo so things get very silly and those of us who actually have first-hand experience with this lifestyle get extremely ridiculed.

    Edit: If you see this lifestyle as a "diet" and are not on board with the premise in the first place, I don't think it's the "diet" for you.

    I don't think you're on board with the premise either

    From Cordain,

    "The Paleo Diet is based upon everyday, modern foods that mimic the food groups of our pre-agricultural, hunter-gatherer ancestors."

    So high carb, moderate protein, moderate fat and low sat fat intake

    The original book The Paleo Diet by Dr. Cordain has many flaws and it is unhealthy for me to eat such a low amount of fat. I do not follow his advice, nor do I follow any one person's advice totally. I'm quite capable of trying different things, making observations, and adjusting. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. But the first sentence you quoted makes sense. But just because SAD is high in carbs doesn't make it wise to model a Paleo lifestyle on that. Come on, quit being silly. Low saturated fat intake is a good way to get sick, but good luck with that. Oh, you are aware that Cordain recommended lean protein on the assumption that most people would be eating grain fed meat; right? You are aware that he has modified his stance; right?

    Read the study, then read Cordain's premise of the diet, then see where the high carb comment came from

    can you quote for me where he supports high carb diets?

    "fresh fruits and vegetables represent the main carbohydrate source and will provide for 35-45 % of your daily calories"

    "The foundation of The Paleo Diet is meat, seafood, and unlimited consumption of fresh fruits and veggies."

    Also if you actually looked into what I asked about, you'd see that he doesn't even follow his own stated premise

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