Weight loss: 80% diet and 20% exercise?

chelsealjames
chelsealjames Posts: 92 Member
edited September 21 in Health and Weight Loss
I've been hearing lately that most weight loss is usually in diet. I'm wondering what you guys think about that? I'm beginning to think this may be true. I have been active my whole life and work out nearly every day. As soon as my diet starts to change is when I see the weight loss. Basically, is the key clean eating? A low-sodium low-sugar, and hardly any processed foods going to contribute more to weight loss than just more exercise? I have to say I feel like it might. When I snack on celery rather than pretzels I can tell a difference.
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  • kappyblu
    kappyblu Posts: 654 Member
    I believe that it is. Also, drinking a lot of water and getting enough rest is a HUGE part of that equation. It may be that 80/20 thing you mentioned, but I'd go a little further and say it's 50% mental, 30% diet, and 20% exercise. What do you think? Maybe it's more mental than that, actually because we are the ones who choose to do this and stick with it!!
  • kappyblu
    kappyblu Posts: 654 Member
    I believe that it is. Also, drinking a lot of water and getting enough rest is a HUGE part of that equation. It may be that 80/20 thing you mentioned, but I'd go a little further and say it's 50% mental, 30% diet, and 20% exercise. What do you think? Maybe it's more mental than that, actually because we are the ones who choose to do this and stick with it!!
  • kappyblu
    kappyblu Posts: 654 Member
    Oops did not mean to post twice!
  • rose1617
    rose1617 Posts: 469 Member
    100% true.
    I can work out 6 days a week and burn 4-500 calories per session, but if I eat whatever I want, I'll gain weight.
    When I am really really really focused on my diet, I can lose about a pound a week.
  • FemininGuns
    FemininGuns Posts: 605 Member
    It's definately 80% Diet, 10% motivation, 10% exercise!!!
  • chocolateandvodka
    chocolateandvodka Posts: 1,850 Member
    my personal uneducated opinion is that it could easily be a percentage mix of whatever fits your lifestyle best. if you're an active person, stepping up the exercise might allow you to indulge now and again while still losing weight. (this has been my experience anyways)
    however, if you literally have zero time for exercise or are physically unable, then you may be able to follow a pretty strict diet and squeeze in 15 minutes of activity a few times a week and drop pounds.
    i've done the former and it's worked for me thus far! but for the best results, i'd say concentrating on both diet AND exercise and allowing yourself an occasional rest day will increase your chance of success.

    edit - i'd also like to mention that goal-setting and mental preparedness is the key. diet and exercise are just tools we use to achieve this goal.
  • think48
    think48 Posts: 366 Member
    I really think it depends on the person. I think a heavy person who eats fast food and fried foods could lose weight most easily by changing their diet. For me, however, I eat very healthy in the first place. Exercise is key for me - there's not really a whole lot for me to change in my diet. Always little tweaks, yes, but for the most part, getting active is what will take weight off for me.
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    I agree! You just need to find what works for your body. Gotta find the right amount of calories to consume and burn..it's not an easy thing to do so I agree it's just as much mental!
  • Ngolden1
    Ngolden1 Posts: 58 Member
    Not only is this 100% true, but I think the split could be more like 90% diet and 10% exercise. I exercised for months and didn't lose weight until I changed my diet. I have also had periods of time where I lost weight with no exercise at all, but a very strict diet. It comes down to calories. You can eat processed salty foods and still lose weight with low calories. Unless you work out like a professional athlete - exercise does not have that big of an impact. Although, I do believe once you get to a low body fat, exercise helps give you that toned look (and is obviously good for health).
  • SouthernBell86
    SouthernBell86 Posts: 275 Member
    Hmm, well I think that as far as your body is concerned you need to fit water into the equation. Maybe give 33.3% to diet, 33.3% to exercise and 33.3% to water.

    You're right that if you are only exercising, you probably aren't burning enough calories to combat the high amount of calories the average American can consume in a day. If you burn 500 calories exercising, but eat more than 3,000 calories you probably aren't going to lose weight.

    If you are only dieting and not exercising I think you may lose a little weight, but I don't think you'll be able to get it all off, keep it off or possibly even stay on the diet. I think a lot of dieters find that the daily exercise helps keep them motivated to eat right. Exercise gives you those lovely endorphins and helps clear your mind of a lot of stress, which is what caused a lot of us to overeat in the past. Not to mention when you exercise you can eat more, which definitely also helps on a diet.

    And water? Well, if you're not drinking enough water your body will hold on to as much of it as it can, and there is a lot of water stored in fat cells.

    So I think its really about getting all those things going properly. Don't give up on any of them :)
  • Bump - I like this thred!
  • cskalaj
    cskalaj Posts: 94 Member
    I think it's true. I find when I work out, I allow myself more calories and end up going over 9 times out of 10 thinking I've earned them before logging them. Also, think about how many calories you could potentially consume in a small amount of time as compared to how many you can burn in the same amount of time. Some restaurants serve meals you can eat in less than 30 minutes that have thousands of calories. You'd have to be on an elliptical machine for about an 5-hour stretch to make that up!
  • Yes! Eat the right thing and weight loss will take care of itself without hours spent in the gym.

    "Calories in - Calories out" is crap math. "A calorie is a calorie" may obey the laws of thermodynamics, but is complete garbage in a system like the human body.

    Studies have been done (and I can get references if you want them) that have shown people losing ample amounts of weight on 2,000 calories of animal meat and fat. Yes, that's 50% calories from meat, 50% from fat. Yet give those same people 1200 calories (usually based on the typical low-fat, high carb diet) and they're lucky if they lose 5 lbs.
  • Panda86
    Panda86 Posts: 873
    I recently read that for losing weight that diet does have a huge percentage in how much you lose, but exercise is more affective in keeping the weight off. I will try and find the article again and post it :)
  • redhotsmacker
    redhotsmacker Posts: 227 Member
    I'm in total agreement with that statement! Just by changing your diet you can still lose weight. Exercise is helpful in making the process faster!
  • Bolton1983
    Bolton1983 Posts: 12 Member
    I lost most of my weight eating mcdonalds and drinking beer and smoking ciggarettes.

    I know that doesnt sound healthy, but i was motivated, i ate small portions and watched calories,..

    I didnt exercise once and had the best body i had in almost my entire life.

    its an odd story but i assure you, its true, everythign would say when i was losing weight, that its not healthy.

    My point is,, what works for you, works for you, and not everybody.

    So for you it could be 80 diet and 20% food, who knows...try differnt things out and see what works best for you.
  • EDesq
    EDesq Posts: 1,527 Member
    Hey There:
    I know that what I eat/don't eat is the key for My wt. loss. I have lost over 75 lbs. in the last 12 months and I just (a month ago) incorporated any type of "exercise routine" in My Life. Eating lower calories is the key to weight loss, later I began to monitor My sodium intake (This brought a whole new dimension to My Health...no water retention, weight stabilized, no more puffiness in My hands, feet and ankles, blood pressure stabilized, hair in top of My head began to grow longer...and this is just the stuff I can see/measure!). I have reduced My sugar intake but that is difficult when you add fruit to the eating plan, I think it is more important where the "sugar" comes from. When sugar come from fruit (fructose) or dairy (lactose) blood sugar stays more normalized, as such it does not release insulin fast into your system causing blood sugar spikes and holding on to carbs (causing wt gain.) So for Me the key is knowing where My "sugar" comes from, allowing for the "good" sugar and limiting the "bad" sugar. For Me, changing My Habits, thus changing My Lifestyle has come in "sections," I have not tried to make changes all at once for fear that would overwhelm Me and cause frustration (and I would quit)...it's a process. I'm glad I found MFP because the tools here have been fantastic in allowing Me to see what I am doing and to notice trends (good and bad) to continue them or stop them before they get out of hand. So best to you in whatever you do.


    I'd like to add that exercise definitely has its place in My Life now but NOT for wt. loss. It is so important for Me Spiritually and Emotionally; also, I have arthritis and it has improved My range of motion, balance and endurance, and reduced pain. NOW, I would not give up exercise and stretching...but its not a wt. loss device, any benefits from it relative to wt. loss is a Blessing.
  • hill242
    hill242 Posts: 412 Member
    The key is always diet. I don't treat exercise as a weight loss tool. I treat exercise as a "get healthy" tool. When it comes to weight loss, it really does boil down to a simple equation: calories out > calories in. While it is nice to know you can be a little less strict when you're exercising, coming to understand "food as fuel" is important. The opposite, "Food as a treat for ________" -- even if the blank is "exercise" -- can be a setup for potential weight regain later.

    So, yes, I exercise while I am losing weight. I find the endorphin-rush from exercising improves my mood greatly, which is key to me feeling good about myself and my life, which in turn motivates me to keep eating well and losing weight.
  • chelsealjames
    chelsealjames Posts: 92 Member
    Wow!! Thanks everyone!! Yeah I have always worked out and not lost those last 10 lbs. So I'm going to change my diet to a clean, low-sodium and low-sugar diet (which is where my problem seems to be). I love this site! It has changed my whole perception of health/fitness/diet/weight loss
  • JStarnes
    JStarnes Posts: 5,576 Member
    73lbs lost with about 98% diet & 2% exercise. I believe it! :tongue:
  • bump, Thanks for all the helpful information.
  • iplayoutside19
    iplayoutside19 Posts: 2,304 Member
    This is true, and more and more studies have been coming out to back this up. (Except the media mis-reports the findings, but that's an entirely different topic.)

    I have been active for most of my adult life, and continued to gain weight. It wasn't until I started counting calories that I began to lose ANY weight.

    My wife has lost 40 lbs, and the only excersise she does is three times a week when we walk to down to the gas station in town.

    Just play with the food an excersise journal on this site and do the math if you don't beleive me. Figure out how long you would have to workout to burn the calories from the bowl of ice cream you just had.

    I excersise because I like to excersise...it's a quality of life thing.

    But no matter how much you excersise...you can't out excersise a bad diet. (You could, but you wouldn't be doing anything else)
  • MMarcordes
    MMarcordes Posts: 58 Member
    I think it's more important to look at the combination. The formula is more simple than 80% diet and 20% exercise. It's just calories in and calories out. If you work out and 500 calories a day, but are eating more than that - then you're not going to lose weight. You have to do both, I think. It's not more one than the other - it's both equally. There are going to be days that you don't exercise - and there are going to be days that you overeat. But trying to maintain the balance of both exercise and diet is the key, I think, to healthy weight loss.
  • EDesq
    EDesq Posts: 1,527 Member
    Re: MMarcordes Response

    I don't think that is correct info...We all have a Basil/resting caloric burn. Basically, the calories your body burns doing NOTHING in order to just survive (this is usually 1400+ calories depending on your size.) ANY ACTIVITY theoretically will be extra energy/calories burned...meaning you can eat that MUCH MORE than your Basil. If we ate ONLY what we burned via ACTIVITY to maintain our weight we all would die of mal-nutrition. If you completed your Profile accurately when you joined the site, it will tell you your Basil caloric intake(based on your wt., ht., age and activity level) that intake "theoretically" would allow you to just maintain your weight...if you want to lose wt, then you eat below that Basil Caloric Intake, you may add extra workouts/activity to assist. Check the goal page.
  • lisawest
    lisawest Posts: 798 Member
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    If you are only dieting and not exercising I think you may lose a little weight, but I don't think you'll be able to get it all off, keep it off or possibly even stay on the diet. I think a lot of dieters find that the daily exercise helps keep them motivated to eat right.
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    My wife has lost 40 lbs, and the only excersise she does is three times a week when we walk to down to the gas station in town.
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    Since both these quotes have to do with me, I just put them together!:happy:

    My hubby is right. For the most part I only get in 3 walks a week.
    :tongue: OFF TOPIC WARNING! I have my activity level set to "sedentary" currently, and my life is ANYTHING but that! But I opted not to change it just yet because it is working for me. When it stops working, then I'll adjust again. BACK ON TOPIC!:tongue:

    I do not eat a super restricted diet. I DO watch my sodium, but that is because lower sodium makes me FEEL better. I don't eat "clean" by any stretch of the imagination! I like my ice cream, chocolate, pizza, burgers, etc. and I EAT THEM! I just don't eat them like I used to. I go for the ice cream with ingredients I can pronounce (for the most part, I LOVE Skinny Cow though!). I limit my pizza intake to either homemade, or only 2 slices (a single serving), and I make sure that I balance it out with lots of veggies and fruit (the potassium in those help your body process the sodium better). Burgers are all homemade with 98% lean beef. (I did actually have a McD's burger the other day and thought I might puke!) All my sweets are in moderation. I measure out one serving, enter it in my diary, and then eat ONLY that. Does it take self control? Oh yeah! Is it difficult sometimes? Oh my yes! But is it worth it to weigh LESS than I did as a freshman in high school? YES!!!

    As far as the exercise goes, I probably COULD find time to sneak in a little more, but it would probably be to the detriment of something else. I could get up earlier in the mornings, but I already run short on sleep most days. I could sneak in some Wii Fit while the kids watch their cartoons (Free Step on there clicks a beat on the wiimote, so you can turn the TV back to the regular shows and just step to whatever is on!) Only problem is that I try to keep the kids off the TV very much while the weather is nice. I could take a walk at lunch time instead of eating, but I get to be a HUGE B...bear when I don't eat at regular intervals. So for me, right now, exercise isn't something I've set aside time to do. I speedwalk down the halls in my school when I walk the equivalent of 2 blocks from my band room, to the other music room and back. I march and play with my students during class rather than sit on the sidelines with a bullhorn. I stand 50 out of every 55 minutes of class. None of this burns a LOT of calories, but it is ALL more active than I was BEFORE I started.

    Do I think exercise has a place in everyone's lives? ABSOLUTELY! It's place in my life is just not at a gym, or in a weight room. It's place is with my students and my children.

    Diet will affect your weight MUCH more than exercise will. I don't know if the percentages are 80/20, but I know for me, it has essentially been 99/1.

    The key is finding the balance that works for you. I'll stick with mine until it stops working, and then I'll adjust. That's how I've lost 42 pounds. By doing what works until it doesn't and then trying new ideas until one works.

    Good luck with finding what will work for those last 10 pounds. (I have 3 more to go until I hit the top of my "range," so I know just how hard they can be!):flowerforyou:

    Sorry for the long post!:blushing:
  • HIzara
    HIzara Posts: 187
    Nice thread. BUMP!
  • runrgrrl
    runrgrrl Posts: 37 Member
    absoutely agree...I am a long distance runner that trains up to 6 days a week and log 45-55 miles per week when i am in full training and when i am not training i still log about 30-40 miles a week....I CANNOT EAT WHATEVER I WANT. I can stop running and watch my diet THEN and only then do i really see weight loss.

    I wholeheartedly believe, its what we eat 80% and 20% exercise!!
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    i agree too.

    diet/eating plan is for weight loss, exercise is for toning and endorphins. :)
  • PJilly
    PJilly Posts: 22,247 Member
    I am a total exercise fan. I typically work out six days a week. But I'd go so far as to say weight loss is 100 percent diet. You need to fuel your body for what you do, whether you exercise or not. Too much fuel = too much weight. One perk of working out is that I get to eat more food! :bigsmile:
  • I think its fairly true. I agree with everyone who says its all about your goals and what works best for you. If you are looking for straight weight loss 100% true. If you are someone who is looking for any kind of definition or fitness change then I think the percentages change.
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