Does gluten sabotage your diet?

I was reading this article that said: "There's a debate about whether ditching wheat and gluten actually does help you lose weight more easily than simply dieting. Some dietitians say that dropping gluten from your diet means that you've got less you can eat, and therefore are consuming fewer calories overall ... which naturally leads to weight loss. (See the details on the debate and the latest research in Gluten-Free Weight Loss - Does It Work?)

However, other experts — notably, cardiologist Dr. William Davis, author of Wheat Belly — argue that wheat (and not just the gluten protein in wheat) actually augments your appetite, causing you to eat more. Dr. Davis told me in an interview that wheat contains appetite-stimulating compounds which encourage your body to produce more insulin, a hormone that can cause you to store fat."

http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/sideeffectsofthediet/a/Five-Gluten-Free-Weight-Loss-Tips.htm

From your experience what do you think?:huh:

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  • BarbieAS
    BarbieAS Posts: 1,414 Member
    I think both viewpoints are saying the same thing in a slightly different way. Maybe gluten stimulates your appetite more, maybe it doesn't. But, if you're staying within your calorie goal, (unless you have a medically diagnosed gluten sensitivity, Celiac, etc) whether or not you eat wheat is not going to impact how much weight you lose. If choosing not to eat wheat makes it *easier* for you to stay within your calorie goal, for whatever reason, then it certainly won't hurt you. But, simply eliminating wheat while not controlling calories is not going to make fat magically disappear.

    Calories in, calories out.
  • DaddieCat
    DaddieCat Posts: 3,643 Member
    I agree with the above poster.

    On a personal note, I eat seitan. Seitan is a dough made from wheat gluten and prepared. It's almost pure protein as anything other then the gluten is removed before to make a more refined gluten. I eat roughly a half pound of this every day to help me hit my protein macros. Since it's a protein, it's very filling and sticks with you for quite a while. It does not increase my appetite nor does it hinder my progress.

    Note that my goal is not weight loss, but body recomposition. I am lowering body fat percentages while gaining lean mass successfully. I eat all of the gluten I want with no ill effects such as those noted in the "Wheat Belly" Book which has many proponents but just as many arguments against. I do not have an intolerance to gluten nor any other medical reason to avoid it such as celiacs or Crohns.

    It's been a staple of my diet and a great help towards my goals.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Good thing William Davis just doesn't make things up
  • CountryGirl8542
    CountryGirl8542 Posts: 449 Member
    I heard this also and I have to speak from personal experience. I was living with a lady that was Celiac last year and I went gluten free with her. I lost a bunch of weight but it was not because of being wheat free... it was because I had a calorie deficient. I proved this to myself just recently by going gluten free again... I would still eat McDonald's & Wendy's (only after confirming everything I was eating had no wheat in it), I would go to the nice restaurant and get gluten free pastas (which might I add is much higher in calories and carbs) and I was gaining weight... not because of the gluten or not gluten but just simply because I was eating too many calories.


    I have to add to this... I have been eating McDonald's and Wendy's and other crap throughout my weight loss journey and I have still managed to lose 14 lbs (most I have ever lost trying to lose). It is all about calories in and calories out.
  • extra_medium
    extra_medium Posts: 1,525 Member
    People were losing lots of weight long before anyone even knew what gluten was.
  • chezjuan
    chezjuan Posts: 747 Member
    I ate gluten throughout my weight loss and didn't have a problem. The loss seemed to be right about in line with my calorie deficit as well - if I was eating 500 less a day I lost about a pound a week, etc.
  • 58Rock
    58Rock Posts: 176 Member
    NO
  • lesliev523
    lesliev523 Posts: 366 Member
    I have Celiac Disese... and trust me gluten has no effect on weight.

    I did lose weight when I first went gluten free but that is because I had such severe damage that I only ate fruit, veggies, and meat. I went off of dairy even. The weight loss was because I was eating "clean" and at a deficit.

    But if you look at gluten free foods... they usually have more calories than their gluten counterparts. Bummer!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Meh...I've lost 40 Lbs eating all the gluten I want. I don't have any alergies or sensitivities to it.

    I could see how one could lose weight by cutting it out without necessarily tracking calories though...eliminating gluten eliminates a lot of calorie dense foods. That said, I like sammiches and my pasta...and if you replace the calories you're eliminating by being gluten free with consumption elsewhere, it wouldn't matter.

    Ultimately, it's still all about calorie in/out
  • lukasmac
    lukasmac Posts: 216 Member
    I read a study stating that eating healthy and exercising helped you lose weight... jury is still out on that one though.
  • LaurenEileen74
    LaurenEileen74 Posts: 142 Member
    I'm a big fan of the four food groups in moderation. Calories in, calories out.

    Less calories = weight loss.

    Not too tough.

    Fad's arent for me, and they can really mess up your system.

    I've watched my MIL yo-yo diet with every fad that comes out, and you know what? She loses a little, gains more back. Not good.

    Exercise and calorie count. Period.
  • grantwashere
    grantwashere Posts: 171 Member
    Good thing William Davis just doesn't make things up

    Notable Difference: "Dr." William Davis is being paid (probably quite handsomly) for the information he is sharing. Everyone on here is giving personal experiences with their SUCCESS in what you are trying to accomplish. (not just their opinion) and sharing it FOR FREE. Motivation difference. You do the math.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Unless you have Prater-Willi syndrome, nothing causes you to eat more except your hand shoving food into your mouth.
  • I have Celiac Disese... and trust me gluten has no effect on weight.

    I did lose weight when I first went gluten free but that is because I had such severe damage that I only ate fruit, veggies, and meat. I went off of dairy even. The weight loss was because I was eating "clean" and at a deficit.

    But if you look at gluten free foods... they usually have more calories than their gluten counterparts. Bummer!

    Ditto this - gluten intolerant because one of the titers was normal the other 2 not normal... so - when I discovered the gluten free substitutes - holy cow - 150 calories in a single tiny (palm of your hand - not including fingers sized) piece of bread! No wonder I started gaining after my initial loss too... Now, I just eat open face sandwiches when I eat bread at all, opting instead for other carbs that keep my tummy happy... and losing weight, without gluten. I have to watch my calories. And I have to exercise. Otherwise that scale doesn't budge and neither do the inches on the tape measure.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    No
  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    I think there are several possible factors:

    1. Less choices. Which according to at least one study can reduce consumption.

    2. If some of those choices become a combination of high protein and fat this can reduce appetite, as you can only eat so much meat before you get ill. Admittedly, some of us can eat quite a lot of meat before we get ill, but I for one know that no matter how hungry I am, I have a limit to how much meat I can consume n a day, and I seem to be a bottomless pit when it comes to sugary stuff.

    3. Maybe there is something in gluten or in processed foods that tend to contain gluten or in a combination of gluten and other ingredients in those foods that causes hunger or cravings.

    4. Individual triggers.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    Check out my pics in my profile.

    The before pics are back when I tried to bull**** my way out of calorie reduction by following these silly fads. I was on paleo diet foods only at my fattest.

    The after pics are my wheat belly.

    What do you think?
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    no .....OMG :yawn:
  • Showcase_Brodown
    Showcase_Brodown Posts: 919 Member
    Meeeeehhhhh....

    It probably makes no difference. When in doubt, try it. If giving up gluten somehow makes it easier for you to lose weight, then that is the answer (for you). Calories in/out will always always always be the determining factor.
  • aliciap412
    aliciap412 Posts: 170 Member
    it doesn't sabotage my diet but it will make me poop blood for a month

    people have all types of reasons for trying gluten free and for sticking with it, I personally did lose a ton of weight but mostly because I dropped all grain and dairy and I do not eat the "gluten free" substitutes. they remind me of the meats that they make for vegetarians, not really good for you but still allowed on your diet. I understand vegetarians miss bacon so much that facon sounds great and gluten free folks miss pasta and bread so much that their fake breads sound good, but like most people have already said, its worse for you than most wheat breads just as facon usually has questionable ingredients.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    From your experience what do you think?:huh:

    It makes no difference to me. I often go several days without gluten. I notice no difference on those day than on days I eat it.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Unless you have Prater-Willi syndrome, nothing causes you to eat more except your hand shoving food into your mouth.

    How does the food get into the mouths of those with Prater-Willi syndrome??
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    From your experience what do you think?huh
    From my experience, no. I eat a good amount of gluten (lots of bread, quite a lot of pasta & couscous, probably other sources I'm not aware of) and I've had no problem losing or maintaining my weight loss.
  • From my experience... well, I'm gluten intolerant. So if I were to eat it, it would not only affect my diet, but also my sleep, level of pain, and quality of life for the next several days.

    Pro-Gluten Free:
    In my ever so humble opinion going gluten free is great for you in the first couple weeks but it's not because you're "gluten free". It's actually because suddenly you can no longer eat fast food or things like donuts or pizza. You even have to watch some salad dressings because gluten is hidden everywhere! Naturally, when you cut out these foods or cut back on them you're usually filling up with "higher quality" foods or lower calorie and natural foods like fruit, veggies, and meat. Of course you'll feel better and look better if you're replacing fast food with veggies!

    Anti-Gluten Free:
    In my ever so humble opinion, going gluten free will ruin your diet. After a few weeks of eating gluten free you will start to figure out ways around it. You'll discover that this restaurant has fries free of gluten, so fast food is no longer off limits. You will discover gluten free bread and it has quite a few more calories in it when you compare the portion sizes.


    Personally, if I could eat gluten, I would order the biggest pizza money can buy and I would eat every last bite. But I can't, so I won't.


    tl;dr

    Gluten is in a lot of foods. If you don't eat it, you will cut out a lot of foods that are high in calories.
    Gluten free foods are typically higher in calories.

    Eating/not eating gluten will have no effect on your weight loss. It's simple folks, calories in, calories out....
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Unless you have Prater-Willi syndrome, nothing causes you to eat more except your hand shoving food into your mouth.

    How does the food get into the mouths of those with Prater-Willi syndrome??

    Heh...point taken. But they do have a legitimate problem shutting up their brain from sending hunger signals.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    gluten is not part of weight gain...people who are gluten free are for medical reasons, they can't digest it, I hate that people think gluten free is a weight loss diet....ughhh biggest pet peeve....calories in and out people!!
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    gluten is not part of weight gain...people who are gluten free are for medical reasons, they can't digest it, I hate that people think gluten free is a weight loss diet....ughhh biggest pet peeve....calories in and out people!!

    I had a period of time where I had to go gluten free to see if I had a medical issue with it. I did not (and we are still trying to find what the issue IS) thankfully because I HATED it. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. In fact, I gained for a short period after the switch to gluten free because I was so lost as to what to eat... and gluten free products are not healthier.
  • ruizv17
    ruizv17 Posts: 26 Member
    If you have a gluten sensitivity like any other allergy your body can be holding on to the weight. So if you try going gluten free- which in my experience means eating more calories and still lose weight it might be a sensitivity. My doctor advised going gluten free and when I do keep it up I lose steady. The moment I cheat my weight lost stops for weeks.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    unless you have some kind of gluten sensitivity or medical condition, then no it will not sabotage your diet..

    eat in a deficit, hit your carb macro for the day and you will lose...

    I eat about 25-30% carbs and am losing weight and am about 13% BF ...