CONFUSED!!! HELP!!!
shabrick00
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So I am still in the swing of getting this calorie thing in place....now I do understand that you have a certain amount of calories per day but does it matter how you get them or what you eat? Like if I eat a burger (although I haven't) for a meal or fired chicken and by the end of the Day Im still within my calories, will I still lose weight? Or is it certain foods that I have to eat to lose weight? Im sure I have posed question along these line before and if so im sorry, but Im just still a bit confused. I do eat what I want and I do measure my food but like today I ate chinese food and now I feel horrible about eating chinese but I still have calories left and I havent worked out yet. I almost feel like if im not chewing salad and grilled chicken for every meal I am doing something wrong. Any information would be appreciated. maybe how you do or the things you eat or if this is you as well.
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yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.0
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Or if you're like me, and your body hates carbs...then you have to really watch your macros. I also don't eat dairy so I have to fortify my diet with calcium supplements (paired with vitamin D and magnesium for proper absorption). I don't believe that it doesn't matter what you eat. You're fueling your body, nourish it with proper foods, not junk. That way you'll feel full, you're getting the nutrition you need, and you don't run the risk of binging. I'm not saying eat 100% clean, but maybe try 70% clean and keep the treats to a minimal.0
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thanks for your input. I hope this is not a silly question but when you say calorie dense foods, could you give me an example of such?yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.0 -
thanks for you response. What do you consider eating clean?Or if you're like me, and your body hates carbs...then you have to really watch your macros. I also don't eat dairy so I have to fortify my diet with calcium supplements (paired with vitamin D and magnesium for proper absorption). I don't believe that it doesn't matter what you eat. You're fueling your body, nourish it with proper foods, not junk. That way you'll feel full, you're getting the nutrition you need, and you don't run the risk of binging. I'm not saying eat 100% clean, but maybe try 70% clean and keep the treats to a minimal.0 -
Its not a silly question, some days I eat junk just as long as its in my calorie allowance, but most days I do eat healthy.0
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I say start by just focusing on the calories then slowly you will start to notice what kinds of unhealthy foods you eat and when. Then you can focus on making your diet healthier. Rushing into eating salads at every meal has never worked for me, it's too strict and I fail instantly.
Don't be so hard on yourself.0 -
I have found that when I eat "junk" like fast food and sweets, I am hungry quicker so it's more difficult to maintain my calorie allowance. I would stick to mostly complex carbs (oatmeal, rice, whole wheat), fruits/veggies, and lean protein (baked/grilled chicken, seafood, eggs, etc). You can eat way more of these foods than you can junk food. For instance, one cinnabon is the equivalent to eating a huge plate of chicken breasts, rice, and steamed veggies. One has little nutritional value and wont help as much with recovery, while the other is full of stuff your body needs to be a lean, mean, fighting machine!0
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clean eating are fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats, etc...dirty eating is chips, chocolate, canned anything, pre-made anyting. I am an avid chip eater, but i earn it. Only on saturdays and after I've busted my *kitten* lol I don't eat 100% clean, I eat roughly 80-90% clean though. I like the odd little treat, or a bite of someone's chocolate. And lord help me when Starbucks comes out with new signature drinks. I'm just saying, watch what you put in your mouth, you are what you eat right?0
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^^^This^^^ Nutrient rich foods and low caloric density will help overall health and also help with feeling satisfied with the amount you eat. Technically speaking though for weight loss, deficit = weight loss.yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.0 -
cool! Thanks for explaining that. And I have heard you are what you eat....clean eating are fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats, etc...dirty eating is chips, chocolate, canned anything, pre-made anyting. I am an avid chip eater, but i earn it. Only on saturdays and after I've busted my *kitten* lol I don't eat 100% clean, I eat roughly 80-90% clean though. I like the odd little treat, or a bite of someone's chocolate. And lord help me when Starbucks comes out with new signature drinks. I'm just saying, watch what you put in your mouth, you are what you eat right?0 -
thanks for your input. I hope this is not a silly question but when you say calorie dense foods, could you give me an example of such?yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.
Calorie dense foods are foods that have a high amount of calories for a small portion. Examples would be nuts, avocadoes, nut butters, etc.0 -
oh ok thanks for tht info...gosh I ate some peanuts today :-/
thanks for your input. I hope this is not a silly question but when you say calorie dense foods, could you give me an example of such?yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.
Calorie dense foods are foods that have a high amount of calories for a small portion. Examples would be nuts, avocadoes, nut butters, etc.0 -
Losing weight but still being unhealthy because of high sodium, high transfat, high sugar and high everything-bad-for-you is not the best option. Junk food might taste good, on one hand you will be hungry faster, and are more likely to go way over your daily calories. On the other hand, you will be eating a lot of bad things for your body.
Healthy food doesn't really have to be boring, and you can still have some junk every now and then.0 -
Most people here at MFP are going to tell you that weight loss is ONLY calories in and calories out. However, the human body is just a bit more complex than that over-simplification, and, for many of us, WHAT we eat does indeed matter.
Interestingly, many people take the calories in/calories out advice and then eat as little as possible, because that means that they will lose weight faster; right? Usually, WRONG. Speaking from experience, a healthy body loses excess fat effortlessly, no need to starve oneself.
I eat a high fat, moderate protein, low carb eating plan based on REAL food and all of my health problems, which were many, have vanished. Bonus, fat loss is a nice side effect of optimal health. So everyone that can and wants to eat junk while trying to lose weight, well all the power to them, but for me it's a FAIL. Over 20 years of failing actually-even though I thought I was eating healthy foods since I was avoiding fat and filling up on grains, sugar, etc as advised. And now 15 months of effortless succeeding and feeling awesome from eating nutrient dense, high fat foods. Go figure.0 -
oh ok thanks for tht info...gosh I ate some peanuts today :-/
thanks for your input. I hope this is not a silly question but when you say calorie dense foods, could you give me an example of such?yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.
Calorie dense foods are foods that have a high amount of calories for a small portion. Examples would be nuts, avocadoes, nut butters, etc.
I hate seeing the BS advice to avoid calorie dense foods, which are usually NUTRIENT dense foods. We are not satiated by filling our stomachs to bursting with low calorie food, we are satiated by giving our body adequate nutrients. So avocadoes, meat/fat, and nuts to a lesser extent are all good... A high protein, low fat diet is NOT the way to go. The fat myth has been busted, over and over and over.
FYI Peanuts are a legume and not a nut. I eat nuts in reasonable portions (but not legumes)..
Edit: avocados are one of the healthiest foods to eat. I can't believe I still see people encouraging others to avoid them because they are "calorie dense". I'm seeing red.0 -
I'm pretty sure I'd lose my mind if I couldn't eat full fats. The chemicals in low fat or no fat foods are more scary then splicing up half an avocado and putting it in your salad. A handful of walnuts keeps my calories up and carbs down after an intense work out, i eat full fat mayo instead of the yucky fake stuff. EVOO makes me happy!0
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Avocado is one of the best fats you can have. Almonds and cashews are awesome too. I will never understand why people are still scared of fats (and I mean good fats)0
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I try to keep my breakfast & lunch around 300 calories & eat more at dinner & bed time snacks. If u work out u can eat all of those exercise calories so it will feel like u eat all the time, even if it is pop tarts & cookies, calories are calories.....:drinker:0
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Ok so granted I still have 50lbs to lose. That aside. I've lost 30 lbs eating what I love. I just make sure I'm at a calorie deficit. I do avoid fast food, fried foods, and fat snacks like candy bars, cookies, ect. Which doesn't mean I never eat that stuff, I just keep it to a minimal and make sure to incorporate those items into my allotted calories. I would get so burned out and fail quick if I didn't treat myself so something sweet (learned from past experiences). Listen to your body. You will find what works for you. Just because something works for one person doesn't mean it works for everyone. Make sure the changes you make are ones you can stick with. It took me a long time to learn that.0
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This is a complex topic and you have gotten a lot of good advice here.
What I've learned so far:
3500 calories = 1 pound of fat, so you need to eat that many more calories than you burn to gain a pound of fat. To lose a pound of fat you have to use 3500 more calories than you eat.
A calorie is a calorie, but there are some foods that are better for you because they have nutrients (vitamins, minerals). Also some food will keep you feeling full longer because it has more protein and fiber in it.
When in doubt always reach for the least processed thing. When I started counting calories I was horrified how many calories can even be in a salad (taco salads at Wendy's are not low cal or healthier than a burger). All unprocessed things are healthier (fruits, nuts, veggies, even whole potatoes that are baked are better than processed alternatives).
Just because something is calorie dense does not mean you should avoid it. Sunflower seeds are 200 calories a serving, but they are great for you. I made little snack bags of sunflower seeds and dry roasted almonds for my salads (for around 150 calories). They are both "dense" in calories but they keep me full and they add awesome crunch! I can "afford" them with my salad, veggies and low calorie dressing.
You will figure it out. But the main thing is to move more and operate at a deficit of calories. To start MFP gives you a good set of numbers to start with. Shoot for right around the numbers they give you and you will lose weight. You can change it from there to make it work better for you as you learn what works and what doesn't.
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So I am still in the swing of getting this calorie thing in place....now I do understand that you have a certain amount of calories per day but does it matter how you get them or what you eat? Like if I eat a burger (although I haven't) for a meal or fired chicken and by the end of the Day Im still within my calories, will I still lose weight? Or is it certain foods that I have to eat to lose weight? Im sure I have posed question along these line before and if so im sorry, but Im just still a bit confused. I do eat what I want and I do measure my food but like today I ate chinese food and now I feel horrible about eating chinese but I still have calories left and I havent worked out yet. I almost feel like if im not chewing salad and grilled chicken for every meal I am doing something wrong. Any information would be appreciated. maybe how you do or the things you eat or if this is you as well.
I looked at your diary and nearly fell off my chair at the amount of sodium you are eating. Personally, if you want to eat clean, sodium is one of the things you have to pay particular attention too. For me, I have my sodium level at 1500 mg, some days not even going 1000mg. Too much sodium and your body retains a lot of water, hence the scale will not move as you would like. Some people on here are not too worried about sodium, but why eat too much of something now, that may affect you later in life.0 -
oh ok thanks for tht info...gosh I ate some peanuts today :-/
thanks for your input. I hope this is not a silly question but when you say calorie dense foods, could you give me an example of such?yes, as long as you are at a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Which foods you choose doesn't matter for overall weight loss. Choosing higher protein foods *will* help you lose more fat than muscle. And choosing less calorie dense foods will make it easier for you to stay on track, since they will make you more full on a per calorie basis.
Calorie dense foods are foods that have a high amount of calories for a small portion. Examples would be nuts, avocadoes, nut butters, etc.
Peanuts are legumes. Nuts and nut butter are cashew, pecan, pistachio, hazelnut, Brazil, almond, macadamia, walnut, pine nut.... Nut butter is a great source of healthy fats and protein and keeps you full or longer. Eat with carrot sticks and cucumber sticks for a great contrast in taste and texture.
Many people have a lot of success by reducing carbs in general, cutting out all sugar and gluten based products, potatoes and rice in favour of more satisfying meals that don't spike your insulin, sending you into a crash which makes you hunt for another snack...
I eat an avocado every day and 12 mixed nuts every day as my snacks.
By doing this you end up eating a more Paleo style, "clean" way. But in order to maintain once you've lost your goal weight you have to accept this is a lifestyle change for good.0 -
I don't think anyone said to eat low fat. And yes, a higher protein content in your diet has been scientifically proven to help maintain more LBM. Avoiding "calorie dense" feeds as a rule doesn't mean you can't ever eat them. It means that for a given number of calories, more weight and more volume means feeling full longer. There are caveats, of course... but the concept is valid. I never said to avoid avocados, they are a great food.I hate seeing the BS advice to avoid calorie dense foods, which are usually NUTRIENT dense foods. We are not satiated by filling our stomachs to bursting with low calorie food, we are satiated by giving our body adequate nutrients. So avocadoes, meat/fat, and nuts to a lesser extent are all good... A high protein, low fat diet is NOT the way to go. The fat myth has been busted, over and over and over.
FYI Peanuts are a legume and not a nut. I eat nuts in reasonable portions (but not legumes)..
Edit: avocados are one of the healthiest foods to eat. I can't believe I still see people encouraging others to avoid them because they are "calorie dense". I'm seeing red.
She asked about weight loss, not overall health. For weight loss, a caloric deficit has been proven 6 ways to Sunday as the most effective, nay, the only truly effective method.
If you can take the time to read what was written, you will see that you are arguing against nobody, as nobody said the things causing you to see red.0 -
WOW... i have not noticed that but I just looked and yes it is alot..maybe i need to pay more attention to that gosh that just made me depressedSo I am still in the swing of getting this calorie thing in place....now I do understand that you have a certain amount of calories per day but does it matter how you get them or what you eat? Like if I eat a burger (although I haven't) for a meal or fired chicken and by the end of the Day Im still within my calories, will I still lose weight? Or is it certain foods that I have to eat to lose weight? Im sure I have posed question along these line before and if so im sorry, but Im just still a bit confused. I do eat what I want and I do measure my food but like today I ate chinese food and now I feel horrible about eating chinese but I still have calories left and I havent worked out yet. I almost feel like if im not chewing salad and grilled chicken for every meal I am doing something wrong. Any information would be appreciated. maybe how you do or the things you eat or if this is you as well.
I looked at your diary and nearly fell off my chair at the amount of sodium you are eating. Personally, if you want to eat clean, sodium is one of the things you have to pay particular attention too. For me, I have my sodium level at 1500 mg, some days not even going 1000mg. Too much sodium and your body retains a lot of water, hence the scale will not move as you would like. Some people on here are not too worried about sodium, but why eat too much of something now, that may affect you later in life.0 -
More on calorie dense foods...Something that is calorie dense is basically something that's physically small, but has a lot of calories. As people have said, there are many calorie dense foods that are good for you like nuts and avocados. You should eat them within your calorie allotment. There are bad versions of calorie dense foods, like cookies.
Foods that are NOT calorie dense are physically large, but don't have a lot of calories. Some of these are really good for you too, like broccoli and other veggies. So you eat these to help fill you up (so you don't feel so hungry and can sustain your weight loss plan). Plus you get the nutrients.
I often use Oreos to help me decide what to eat. (My husband always has these in the house, so they are an option for me, but so far haven't chosen to eat them.) Oreos are very calorie dense--Mega Stuffs have 180 calories per serving, which is just two cookies! (So, they're physically small, but with many calories.) So I'll say to myself, "I could have two Oreos or an entire bag of the broccoli that comes ready-to-steam in a bag with some oil and seasonings on it." Since I know that the broccoli will fill me up a ton more than the Oreos, I end up choosing the broccoli, or another food that is not calorie dense, healthier, and will fill me up more.
I hope this helped, with foods as examples. You seem really sweet and ready to master this stuff!
Edit: I just noticed in your profile that you can't eat leafy greens--cauliflower is my new favorite and there are many other options rather than broccoli!0 -
The example with the Oreos is a really good one. I never thought about things that way and thats because I am not really knowledgable but thanks to all of the smarty pants (lol) here who help and know so much I am learning alot. Thank you for your kind words and input.More on calorie dense foods...Something that is calorie dense is basically something that's physically small, but has a lot of calories. As people have said, there are many calorie dense foods that are good for you like nuts and avocados. You should eat them within your calorie allotment. There are bad versions of calorie dense foods, like cookies.
Foods that are NOT calorie dense are physically large, but don't have a lot of calories. Some of these are really good for you too, like broccoli and other veggies. So you eat these to help fill you up (so you don't feel so hungry and can sustain your weight loss plan). Plus you get the nutrients.
I often use Oreos to help me decide what to eat. (My husband always has these in the house, so they are an option for me, but so far haven't chosen to eat them.) Oreos are very calorie dense--Mega Stuffs have 180 calories per serving, which is just two cookies! (So, they're physically small, but with many calories.) So I'll say to myself, "I could have two Oreos or an entire bag of the broccoli that comes ready-to-steam in a bag with some oil and seasonings on it." Since I know that the broccoli will fill me up a ton more than the Oreos, I end up choosing the broccoli, or another food that is not calorie dense, healthier, and will fill me up more.
I hope this helped, with foods as examples. You seem really sweet and ready to master this stuff!
Edit: I just noticed in your profile that you can't eat leafy greens--cauliflower is my new favorite and there are many other options rather than broccoli!0
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