Not eating enough?

If you are an active person you need to reach your MFP goals not fall below them.

Why?

Well because if you want to keep the weight off long term you have to fuel the machine. It's the same concept that weight watchers operates with (activity points, eating back your exercise calories).

I'm 5'6" and 148 lbs. I cannot even imagine getting through a healthy active day with only 800 NET.

My goal is 2130. I haven't been able to get anywhere near this. I have been averaging around 1200-1500 a day. After exercise I net around 700-1000 calories. I am finding it very difficult to maintain that high of a calorie intake without eating junk. Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother trying to reach 2130 or if the 1200-1500 is sufficient. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to do it as healthy as possible.

Beef, cheese, potatoes, ice cream, chicken, full fat dairy, butter, fish, almonds (170 calories or so for 1/4 cup)... etc.

Again, if you stop eating "diet" foods, you'll be able to hit your goal.

I'm telling ya, you need those calories. You're not netting enough.

My goal is 2130. I haven't been able to get anywhere near this. I have been averaging around 1200-1500 a day. After exercise I net around 700-1000 calories. I am finding it very difficult to maintain that high of a calorie intake without eating junk. Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother trying to reach 2130 or if the 1200-1500 is sufficient. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to do it as healthy as possible.

Ok. Thank you for the clarification.

I don't advocate eating just to eat, but I will say that if you are that far off of your goal, you should maybe be eating different foods. It doesn't have to be junk. Peanut butter, avocado, nuts, salmon, oatmeal and protein powders are all healthy examples of higher calorie foods. Incorporate them into your diet and you will hit 1500 easy. Netting 700-1000 calories just doesn't make sense. I'm on a 1300 calorie goal diet, but I work out quite a bit and eat back most of those calories. If I netted 700-1000, I wouldn't have the strength to work out successfully. Also, it will catch up to you and you will binge.

Thanks I will give it a try

Here's what I've always done and it helps me to stay a healthy weight:

(using a workday as an example)

9am- oatmeal
11am- healthy snack (usually 100-200 calories)
12pm- lunch
3pm- another snack (yogurt typically 150-200 calories)
6pm- pre gym snack (nuts, cheese or fruit)
8:30pm- dinner post gym (homemade)
10pm- small snack like a cookie if there's calories left in the day

Total calories taken in 1700-1800, workout logged to NET 1300-1400.

Obviously as you can see I eat every few hours and I'm never hungry. I always log my workouts and eat back my exercise cals.

Then what do you suggest. I am not eating diet foods per say, only healthy foods. Other than the occasional splurge. I try to keep a low carb count due to type 2 diabetes. I try to eat lean meats that are high in protein and vegetables that are as well. I stay away from fat foods and all soda. I eat until I am content. I am just having a very hard time understanding how I should double my intake to lose weight it goes against everything I have been taught. I am not trying to argue with anyone I am just new to this healthy lifestyle and am looking for advice from people who have done this for awhile

I've done this for a while. You need fat in a diet. If you don't plan on eating this way for the rest of your lift, don't restrict yourself now. Trust me, when I first started.. the mindset was "want to lose more? eat less!" and I hate myself for what it's done to my metabolism now for netting what YOU are doing right now.

I know it's hard to wrap the mind around the concept, but since you're new to this.. it's expected. You need to FUEL your body, right? Gotta have gas in your tank to make the car go. If you're netting that little, dude, you're running on fumes.

Here's a huge wall of text to help, since you're saying that this whole thing is new to ya.

So here. I put this together a while back. It seems to have helped some folks. It worked for me and tons of others.

1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
2. Make sure you eat enough.
3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
12. don't set time restrictions.
13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
14 BE PATIENT.
15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
16. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.

pretty much that.

...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:

the typical MFP users does this:
1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
9. Argument ensues about who is right.

Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.

I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.

Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.

Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
Take the tips, links, and info above and make the cart more manageable to stay on.

My goal is 2130. I haven't been able to get anywhere near this. I have been averaging around 1200-1500 a day. After exercise I net around 700-1000 calories. I am finding it very difficult to maintain that high of a calorie intake without eating junk. Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother trying to reach 2130 or if the 1200-1500 is sufficient. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to do it as healthy as possible.

I don't think the 1200-1500 is a good idea for you unless under the guidance of a doctor.

I'm 1200 to lose 1lb/week
1400 to lose .5
1600 to maintain

I always take in wayyyy more than 1200-1500 on days that I workout and I'm only 148 lbs and 5'6"

Thanks I will give it a try

Here's what I've always done and it helps me to stay a healthy weight:

(using a workday as an example)

9am- oatmeal
11am- healthy snack (usually 100-200 calories)
12pm- lunch
3pm- another snack (yogurt typically 150-200 calories)
6pm- pre gym snack (nuts, cheese or fruit)
8:30pm- dinner post gym (homemade)
10pm- small snack like a cookie if there's calories left in the day

Total calories taken in 1700-1800, workout logged to NET 1300-1400.

Obviously as you can see I eat every few hours and I'm never hungry. I always log my workouts and eat back my exercise cals.

Nice!

As an example to the OP, here was my day yesterday. I netted about 1200. Honestly, I wish I had a little more because my workout today sucked.

Breakfast
Banana Nut Quest Bar
2 Hard boiled eggs

Lunch
Kale, cabbage and carrot salad with thai peanut dressing and roast chicken

Dinner
Half acorn squash with (half tbsp) butter and brown sugar
Steamed cod with a butter and lemon (half tbsp)

Snacks
1.5 servings of non fat greek yogurt with 2 1/2 tbsp of chocolate chips
Apple
Popcorn

Goal: 1300 Food: 1910 Exercise: 713 Net: 1197

800 calories is not enough. If you have alot of weight to lose. I think 1200-1500 calories is sufficient if you are exercising. I know some people eat their exercise calories back, but I do not. I eat 1200-1600 calories a day and burn 500-800 calories a day. If you think about it, it's like only eating 700-900 calories, but I am still eating healthy snacks, such as (steammed veggies, sugar, brown rice (instead of white rice), sweet potato (baked, with no butter or white sugar), use brown sugar if you need it sweeter then what it is. Fill up on veggies! It will help specifically broccoli, cauliflower, and carrots. Or make a vegetable or fruit smoothie with super foods such as:

1 banana
1/2 cup kale or spinach
1/2 cup coconut milk

Blend together and drink.

I'm a very healthy eater and always have been. You just have to remember that everyone is different. I could never survive off of NET 700-900 calories but if someone is really petite it could work. The idea is to lose the weight and keep it off. You will initially lose with a huge deficit like that but it's not sustainable long term.

My goal is 2130. I haven't been able to get anywhere near this. I have been averaging around 1200-1500 a day. After exercise I net around 700-1000 calories. I am finding it very difficult to maintain that high of a calorie intake without eating junk. Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother trying to reach 2130 or if the 1200-1500 is sufficient. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to do it as healthy as possible.

Beef, cheese, potatoes, ice cream, chicken, full fat dairy, butter, fish, almonds (170 calories or so for 1/4 cup)... etc.

Again, if you stop eating "diet" foods, you'll be able to hit your goal.

I'm telling ya, you need those calories. You're not netting enough.

This-get away from the 'diet' food mentality and eat foods that are nutrient dense but also higher in calories. I just ate a bowl of oat with almonds, flax seed and raisins mixed in- healthy and around 360 calories I cook my oats in water but if you add milk you would come in at around 500 calories. Get creative!

Okay, I have a similar question. What if you aren't hungry, I am struggling to eat all this food. I used to be a heavy eater now I drink protien and eat mostly meat protiens and veggies along with fruit. I feel great and the scale is moving downward??

Cut out the protein shakes (I assume that's what you mean) and eat real whole foods to take the place of those calories. Not some shake/mix that's made in a lab and manufactured in a factory. Real food is key.

I would say you need to get into a better eating pattern and eat small (150-200 calories) every few hours.

Unless you're doing a major amount of weight lifting I would not say there's a need to do those shakes. They are expensive and not necessary. They are designed to fill you up and be meal replacements or to add protein to someone doing extensive weight training (or even someone doing long distance running training). For an every day active person that's trying to lose weight...just do real food. You'll find yourself being a normal level of hungry if you cut those out of your diet. You'll get the vitamins and minerals from regular food if you make good swaps in for those shakes.

Thank you!

Fantastic example that you provided as well.

Thanks! It was a yummy day. I think fall foods are my favorite. And the apples this year are SO good.

I agree! We went apple picking in Maine and the apples are really great this year!

My goal is 2130. I haven't been able to get anywhere near this. I have been averaging around 1200-1500 a day. After exercise I net around 700-1000 calories. I am finding it very difficult to maintain that high of a calorie intake without eating junk. Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother trying to reach 2130 or if the 1200-1500 is sufficient. I have a lot of weight to lose and I want to do it as healthy as possible.

I do not know what your macros are set at...but an easy way to up clories is to add olive oil to your veggies. BAm!