A Calorie is NOT a calorie

poohpoohpeapod
poohpoohpeapod Posts: 776 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
Cutting edge experts say the "calories in, calories out", philosophy is oversimplified and inadequate. Quality of calories determnes the quantity your body burns or stores.

Fiber: delays the absorbtion of calories. For example, when you eat a 160 calorie portion of almonds, you absorb 130 calories because some calories are delivered to your intestine, where your gut bacteria burn them for their own energy source.
Protein: You use twice as much energy to metabolize protein as carbohydrate- due to thermic effect of food. Protein reduces hunger hormones more than carbs do.
Carbs: starches (like potatoes) contain mainly glucose, which every cell in your body uses for energy. Fructose-- found in soda and candy and added to most processed foods--is metabolized in your liver as fat, which drives chronic diseases such as diabetes.
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  • poohpoohpeapod
    poohpoohpeapod Posts: 776 Member
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  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    Are you telling me my gut bacteria eats some of my nuts? That *****
  • mandasalem
    mandasalem Posts: 346 Member
    I'm way too tired to dig up a popcorn gif.
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    Can you tell us more about these cutting edge experts?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    :yawn:
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    You're right, OP - a calorie is not a calorie.

    It's a unicorn.
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    Why is fructose listed separate from carbs? It is a carb (just like sucrose, maltose, galactose, lactose, and glucose). They all break down to glucose for use by cells.

    Fructose is the sugar (carb) naturally found in fruit. So fruit is bad now, huh?
  • links_slayer
    links_slayer Posts: 1,151 Member
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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    You're right, OP - a calorie is not a calorie.

    It's a unicorn.

    This is a far better response than mine. If only you'd had a unicorn jpeg.
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    Wow, so interesting.

    Only if this were proven, dr. Attia would not be currently involved in a long term experiment TRYING TO PROVE IT.

    In a couple years, when the experiment is done, maybe we can get some updated caloric values on certain foods. Then we can take calorie counting, a method that works incredibly well, and make it even better.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    I got stuck at poopoopeapod. WTF is that?


    Edit: Oh god. What have I just done.

    it is a calorie with added fiber
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    You're right, OP - a calorie is not a calorie.

    It's a unicorn.

    This is a far better response than mine. If only you'd had a unicorn jpeg.

    Here you go...a unicorn...with the calories trailing behind....


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  • theoriginaljayne
    theoriginaljayne Posts: 559 Member
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  • JBnyc99
    JBnyc99 Posts: 100 Member
    I plan to eat a handful or two of Wonka's Bottle Caps in a few minutes, followed later by a few Everlasting Gobstoppers. Should I update my will first? Who wants my 12 bags of Tootsie Pops once I'm gone?
  • RaggedyPond
    RaggedyPond Posts: 1,487 Member
    Please enlighten us more.
  • daybehavior
    daybehavior Posts: 1,319 Member
    in before tacos
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    You're right, OP - a calorie is not a calorie.

    It's a unicorn.

    This is a far better response than mine. If only you'd had a unicorn jpeg.

    I'll go one better. A unicorn gif.

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  • ehoffmann1122
    ehoffmann1122 Posts: 2 Member
    Agreed :smile:

    Quality of calories determnes the quantity your body burns or stores.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    lol at cutting edge.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Obvious troll
  • RaggedyPond
    RaggedyPond Posts: 1,487 Member
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  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
    I plan to eat a handful or two of Wonka's Bottle Caps in a few minutes, followed later by a few Everlasting Gobstoppers. Should I update my will first? Who wants my 12 bags of Tootsie Pops once I'm gone?
    *waves and jumps up and down*
    I'll take them. I have some calories left today and no sugar phobias. :laugh:
  • JBnyc99
    JBnyc99 Posts: 100 Member
    I plan to eat a handful or two of Wonka's Bottle Caps in a few minutes, followed later by a few Everlasting Gobstoppers. Should I update my will first? Who wants my 12 bags of Tootsie Pops once I'm gone?
    *waves and jumps up and down*
    I'll take them. I have some calories left today and no sugar phobias. :laugh:

    You got it! I have plenty for everyone,...and we might as well enjoy them before our livers give out. I got first dibs on blueberry!
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    You're right, OP - a calorie is not a calorie.

    It's a unicorn.

    This is a far better response than mine. If only you'd had a unicorn jpeg.

    I'll go one better. A unicorn gif.

    tumblr_m6g9c2cXhM1rvrheto1_500.gif

    A++++++
  • poohpoohpeapod
    poohpoohpeapod Posts: 776 Member
    Ummm Researchers at Harvard University and University of Pittsburgh. Of course I am sure you know much more than experts in their fields BTW Harvard is ranked the number one institution for obesity research by many "experts" However I know MFPers know a unicorn when they see one, cuz they are such fanciful thinkers stuck to "Baaahhhh "a calorie is a calorie"
  • gigglesinthesun
    gigglesinthesun Posts: 860 Member
    nobody suggests that the Twinkie Diet is the one you should chose to adopt and yes when you have little to lose and are small having 1300 cals worth of junk isn't going to fill you up, but that doesn't mean that if I eat 2000 cals worth of veggies I am not going to gain weight. In fact it's almost easier to follow the Twinkie diet, because the packet will tell me exactly what's in it whilst my green beans don't really come with that.

    Please do post again when you have proof that eating large amounts of veggies won't make you gain weight, cause as a vegetarian I super interested in that ...
  • RaggedyPond
    RaggedyPond Posts: 1,487 Member
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  • poohpoohpeapod
    poohpoohpeapod Posts: 776 Member
    nobody suggests that the Twinkie Diet is the one you should chose to adopt and yes when you have little to lose and are small having 1300 cals worth of junk isn't going to fill you up, but that doesn't mean that if I eat 2000 cals worth of veggies I am not going to gain weight. In fact it's almost easier to follow the Twinkie diet, because the packet will tell me exactly what's in it whilst my green beans don't really come with that.

    Please do post again when you have proof that eating large amounts of veggies won't make you gain weight, cause as a vegetarian I super interested in that ...
    WTH? vegetables? Nobody said anything about veggies, you make no sense.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Cutting edge experts say the "calories in, calories out", philosophy is oversimplified and inadequate. Quality of calories determnes the quantity your body burns or stores.

    Fiber: delays the absorbtion of calories. For example, when you eat a 160 calorie portion of almonds, you absorb 130 calories because some calories are delivered to your intestine, where your gut bacteria burn them for their own energy source

    How does delaying the absorption of food make the caloric value different?

    Protein: You use twice as much energy to metabolize protein as carbohydrate- due to thermic effect of food. Protein reduces hunger hormones more than carbs do.

    That is well established - not cutting edge. Also, TEF impacts TDEE, it does not impact the unit known as a calorie.
    Carbs: starches (like potatoes) contain mainly glucose, which every cell in your body uses for energy.

    Are you saying that no other carb converts into glucose?

    Fructose-- found in soda and candy and added to most processed foods--is metabolized in your liver as fat, which drives chronic diseases such as diabetes.

    On a caloric deficit?

    You do realize that fructose is found in fruit I hope.



    Edited to fix quotes
  • pcastagner
    pcastagner Posts: 1,606 Member
    Although, I have to say, I am amused by the gut flora aspect. Because if you can treat C. dificile with a pill made of human poop, maybe a poop pill can be created with the feces of lean people to help with weight loss!
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