Switching up cardio - is it really effective

Hi all:

So I stalled after a good start in weight loss. Mostly just not sleeping enough and being so tired (and hungry) from work and study that I end up eating slightly more than I should. But anyway..

A fitness dude at a health fair told me that one of the keys to loosing fat is switching up one's cardio routine from time to time. Do one thing for 3 months, then something different. I currently jogg for cardio and have done it for a few years now - the ROI on it is so high - you burn so much in so little time - perfect for me. If I switch to, say, power walking for a while, I will have to add time to compensate for lower intensity. But he got me thinking.

Has anybody heard of this? True/false?
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  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    The way to lose fat is to preserve lean muscle during weight loss. This is done with a good protein intake and strength or resistance training. I have never personally heard of switching up cardio having any direct effect on fat loss vs LBM loss.
  • xapril77x
    xapril77x Posts: 248 Member
    I've know a lot of ppl that have successfully broke their plateau by switching things up... If I don't lose anything for a bit I change what I'm doing & it does seem to help me also... I'm not sure how much of a switch jogging vs walking would be but it's worth a shot... I would think something like aerobics or adding weights would be more effective...
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    Hi all:

    So I stalled after a good start in weight loss. Mostly just not sleeping enough and being so tired (and hungry) from work and study that I end up eating slightly more than I should. But anyway..

    A fitness dude at a health fair told me that one of the keys to loosing fat is switching up one's cardio routine from time to time. Do one thing for 3 months, then something different. I currently jogg for cardio and have done it for a few years now - the ROI on it is so high - you burn so much in so little time - perfect for me. If I switch to, say, power walking for a while, I will have to add time to compensate for lower intensity. But he got me thinking.

    Has anybody heard of this? True/false?
    The body adapts to fitness programs in about 6-8 weeks. It's efficient to change programs after that time to give the body a different stress to try to adapt to.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • QuilterInVA
    QuilterInVA Posts: 672 Member
    If you've been doing the same exercise for several months or longer, your body is not burning nearly as many calories as when you started. It has become very efficient at doing it. You also need some resistance training at least twice a week,
  • IouliaN
    IouliaN Posts: 16
    Thank you, everybody.

    My resistance training is yoga. I jog every other day and do vigorous yoga every other day - usually exercise every day. It sounds like most people think switching up would be effective. I will not switch away from yoga - it's a practice - but I do switch routine every time. As far as cardio, I am thinking I might switch to from jogging to some P90X cardio routines(my hubby's) rather than walking.

    Thanks all!
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Or, since you've already found a fitness activity you seem to really enjoy, you can just change things up by running harder and faster.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Hi all:

    So I stalled after a good start in weight loss. Mostly just not sleeping enough and being so tired (and hungry) from work and study that I end up eating slightly more than I should. But anyway..

    A fitness dude at a health fair told me that one of the keys to loosing fat is switching up one's cardio routine from time to time. Do one thing for 3 months, then something different. I currently jogg for cardio and have done it for a few years now - the ROI on it is so high - you burn so much in so little time - perfect for me. If I switch to, say, power walking for a while, I will have to add time to compensate for lower intensity. But he got me thinking.

    Has anybody heard of this? True/false?

    No that is not true. That statement is related to the concept of "muscle confusion" popularized by an infomercial workout program. The idea is marketing gibberish. Varying the training stimulus is important for making continued fitness improvement. However this doesn't mean you have to change activities. Randomly changing activity will more likely lead to FEWER calories burned, not more. That's because you won't be proficient enough at he new activity to push yourself as hard.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    If you've been doing the same exercise for several months or longer, your body is not burning nearly as many calories as when you started. It has become very efficient at doing it. You also need some resistance training at least twice a week,

    If weight and workloads are the same then you are burning the same number of calories. "Efficiency" has little effect.
  • for weightloss, no. however, varying ur exercise is still a good idea! :) yoga + p90x is perfect!
  • IouliaN
    IouliaN Posts: 16
    Hmm, controversial I see. Well, good thing winter is coming (never thought I would hear myself say that) and it will get tougher to run outside, so good reason to switch to P90X at home anyway:)
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Hi all:

    So I stalled after a good start in weight loss. Mostly just not sleeping enough and being so tired (and hungry) from work and study that I end up eating slightly more than I should. But anyway..

    A fitness dude at a health fair told me that one of the keys to loosing fat is switching up one's cardio routine from time to time. Do one thing for 3 months, then something different. I currently jogg for cardio and have done it for a few years now - the ROI on it is so high - you burn so much in so little time - perfect for me. If I switch to, say, power walking for a while, I will have to add time to compensate for lower intensity. But he got me thinking.

    Has anybody heard of this? True/false?
    The body adapts to fitness programs in about 6-8 weeks. It's efficient to change programs after that time to give the body a different stress to try to adapt to.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    I would think you'd have to have a carefully-defined goal for doing that. Just changing for it's own sake is not very productive. If you are a runner, for example, then, unless you were interested in cross training to prevent injury or overtraining, it would be more beneficial to incorporate different training stimuli from the start (e.g. intervals, hills, endurance, etc) rather than, say, switch to cycling after 6-8 weeks. Maybe we are talking about two different things.
  • jillianbeeee
    jillianbeeee Posts: 345 Member
    I don't think a jogger can ever switch back to power walking! I wonder if I am the only one that gets that "YOU HAVE TO MOVE FASTER NOW" feeling when I am walking/jogging ! can't help it LOL. However, on subject, I switch back and forth between jogging and HITT every other day. I love it and my body seems to like it.
  • IouliaN
    IouliaN Posts: 16
    Yes, I do get that feeling, Jillian:) What is HITT?
  • DanIsACyclingFool
    DanIsACyclingFool Posts: 417 Member
    Hi all:

    So I stalled after a good start in weight loss. Mostly just not sleeping enough and being so tired (and hungry) from work and study that I end up eating slightly more than I should. But anyway..

    A fitness dude at a health fair told me that one of the keys to loosing fat is switching up one's cardio routine from time to time. Do one thing for 3 months, then something different. I currently jogg for cardio and have done it for a few years now - the ROI on it is so high - you burn so much in so little time - perfect for me. If I switch to, say, power walking for a while, I will have to add time to compensate for lower intensity. But he got me thinking.

    Has anybody heard of this? True/false?

    No that is not true. That statement is related to the concept of "muscle confusion" popularized by an infomercial workout program. The idea is marketing gibberish. Varying the training stimulus is important for making continued fitness improvement. However this doesn't mean you have to change activities. Randomly changing activity will more likely lead to FEWER calories burned, not more. That's because you won't be proficient enough at he new activity to push yourself as hard.


    This!

    Varying your exercise helps you become more fit in a wider range of activities rather than only being good at one thing. I believe the infomercial in question actually gets some amount of benefit out of this because it maximizes your "noob gains" by eventually hitting the whole body. As well I think it can be good for your emotional well being by keeping you interested and setting/achieving new goals. But as a philosphy? As a plateau buster? Not unless the new activity is fundamentally more intense than the old one.

    In order to break a weight loss stall you either need to eat less or burn more. If changing to another exercise helps you burn more than it will work. But as you say the ROI of jogging is already very high, few routines will top it for efficiency.

    As mentioned you could jog longer or faster.

    You may also consider switching to resistance training, which can have the effect you desire for different reasons,
  • quiltlovinlisa
    quiltlovinlisa Posts: 1,710 Member
    HIIT is high intensity interval training. It's doing intervals but giving everything you have during those intervals. You should never finish a HIIT workout feeling like you could go farther.

    So say you do three minutes off and one minute high intensity. For that minute, you push yourself to the limit, running as fast as you can and then the three minutes off are your recovery.

    I like HIIT workouts, but I have to follow someone elses cues. I don't know how to organize my own. :-p
  • Try adding some HIIT workouts (High intensity interval training), they are fun and change things up! www.fitnessblender.com has some great free ones!
  • rjc0704
    rjc0704 Posts: 3 Member
    Yes, your body can get adapt to the same work out routine as much as it adapts to food. I plateaued and learn to switch up cardio to trick your body. I started doing 10min of rowing, then 10 treadmill, then 10 bike, then 10 elipical....it really busted my plateau. And I also change the routines on these machines...I will do intervals of hard, recover, hard recover...etc.
  • spaingirl2011
    spaingirl2011 Posts: 763 Member
    Hi OP, sorry to hijack the post, but after reading the responses, I have a follow up question.

    I am resistance training and jogging. Does increasing weight in my resistance training add up to increasing/adjusting the level of intensity of my workouts? Or would I need to do something else in addition to that to keep my body from getting bored (reason tells me that increasing weight would challenge my body while building strength and therefore accomplish the same aim as "switching it up" but I'm still a bit of a novice about all of this...)?

    Thanks, all!
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    I do want to say that what most people in this thread are talking about is changing up your routine (or intensity level) to increase CALORIES burned once your body becomes more efficient at an activity. There is evidence to support this to an extent, but I haven't seen any evidence showing that this increases FAT loss over LBM loss, which is what the person at the fitness fair seemed to be suggesting.
  • Lynnmi07
    Lynnmi07 Posts: 131 Member
    I don't think you need to quit jogging. i think you just need to change up the intensity. Like jog at your usual pace for 2 minutes then increase pace to slightly difficult for a minute then switch back to easy pace and repeat.
  • wilmnoca
    wilmnoca Posts: 416 Member
    The only changes in my cardio have been ramping up the intensity. I would keep jogging and throw some intervals in there. Bye bye plateau!
  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    Hi OP, sorry to hijack the post, but after reading the responses, I have a follow up question.

    I am resistance training and jogging. Does increasing weight in my resistance training add up to increasing/adjusting the level of intensity of my workouts? Or would I need to do something else in addition to that to keep my body from getting bored (reason tells me that increasing weight would challenge my body while building strength and therefore accomplish the same aim as "switching it up" but I'm still a bit of a novice about all of this...)?

    Thanks, all!
    Yes, increasing the weight would be adjusting the level of your workout. You need to increase the weight in order to increase the work load on your muscles and build more muscle mass. You wouldn't want to do the same weight routine, or work the same muscle groups, every single workout, though. You could do an upper/lower body split or do push-pull exercises on alternating days. You could also add yoga or cardio (or other activity of your choice) on non-weight training days.
  • IouliaN
    IouliaN Posts: 16
    Thanks all. I will check out intervals and try changing pace when I run. I don't think I will be raising intensity more and more, though. I don't feel that that's right for my body - not 17 any more plus want to stick to something that is sustainable. Guess I will have to watch my food more:(
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    To me switching up means increasing the intensity/duration and not swapping what you do. I do swap about mine but I do if for fun
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    Add a resistance program, lift weights. It will help with your running if you learn to do compound lifts by strengthening your supporting muscles.
  • spaingirl2011
    spaingirl2011 Posts: 763 Member
    Hi OP, sorry to hijack the post, but after reading the responses, I have a follow up question.

    I am resistance training and jogging. Does increasing weight in my resistance training add up to increasing/adjusting the level of intensity of my workouts? Or would I need to do something else in addition to that to keep my body from getting bored (reason tells me that increasing weight would challenge my body while building strength and therefore accomplish the same aim as "switching it up" but I'm still a bit of a novice about all of this...)?

    Thanks, all!
    Yes, increasing the weight would be adjusting the level of your workout. You need to increase the weight in order to increase the work load on your muscles and build more muscle mass. You wouldn't want to do the same weight routine, or work the same muscle groups, every single workout, though. You could do an upper/lower body split or do push-pull exercises on alternating days. You could also add yoga or cardio (or other activity of your choice) on non-weight training days.

    Thanks so much for the info! That's very helpful! :flowerforyou:
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    Thanks all. I will check out intervals and try changing pace when I run. I don't think I will be raising intensity more and more, though. I don't feel that that's right for my body - not 17 any more plus want to stick to something that is sustainable. Guess I will have to watch my food more:(

    If you are enjoying running, there is no reason to change it unless you really want to. A lot of runners bring in some form of CT (for you it is Yoga) to engage active recovery. But, if you are doing the same thing day in and day out running then your body will not adapt to become better. Think of it as a cardio version of body building. Body builders don't lift the same weight day in and day out and build muscle and strength that way. They need the added stimuli of more weight to enduce muscle growth.

    Same concept with running. If you just stop at the 3 miles 3 times a week, that is what your body will become used to and eventually your body will have adapted as far as it needs to maintain that activity level. The calorie burn drops, and the running just becomes another activity in your every day life. But, if you add different stimuli (hills, intervals, speed sessions, varying long runs) then you are constantly creating some form of stress that your body has to adjust to which means cardio improvement...which in us runner's language means we can run faster or longer in the same period of time so maintaining the average calorie/hr burn.
  • nettip
    nettip Posts: 113 Member
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  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Thanks all. I will check out intervals and try changing pace when I run. I don't think I will be raising intensity more and more, though. I don't feel that that's right for my body - not 17 any more plus want to stick to something that is sustainable. Guess I will have to watch my food more:(

    If you are enjoying running, there is no reason to change it unless you really want to. A lot of runners bring in some form of CT (for you it is Yoga) to engage active recovery. But, if you are doing the same thing day in and day out running then your body will not adapt to become better. Think of it as a cardio version of body building. Body builders don't lift the same weight day in and day out and build muscle and strength that way. They need the added stimuli of more weight to enduce muscle growth.

    Same concept with running. If you just stop at the 3 miles 3 times a week, that is what your body will become used to and eventually your body will have adapted as far as it needs to maintain that activity level. The calorie burn drops, and the running just becomes another activity in your every day life. But, if you add different stimuli (hills, intervals, speed sessions, varying long runs) then you are constantly creating some form of stress that your body has to adjust to which means cardio improvement...which in us runner's language means we can run faster or longer in the same period of time so maintaining the average calorie/hr burn.

    Training progress may stop, but, if weight stays the same, the calorie expenditure will also stay the same. It does not drop. Over an extended period of time, mechanical efficiency "might" result in a decreased energy demand, but the decrease is not that great. Professional cyclists who ride hundreds of miles per week have only shown a 3%-5% improvement in "mechanical efficiency" over 5 years, so I hardly think the average jogger is going to see much difference in the course of a few weeks.

    People constantly confuse training effect with caloric expenditure. Varying the training stimulus is essential for making continued improvement in fitness level and performance. However, varying exercise activity has no independent effect on calorie burn. As I have said before, it will likely decrease calorie burn because the person won't be able to push themselves as hard during the new activity.

    The only indirect effect that what you are describing will have is that improved training will increase fitness level, which will in turn allow the exerciser to work at higher workloads and thus burn more calories. However, that is a result of the higher fitness level, not because of "muscle confusion".
  • matsprt1984
    matsprt1984 Posts: 181 Member
    Thanks all. I will check out intervals and try changing pace when I run. I don't think I will be raising intensity more and more, though. I don't feel that that's right for my body - not 17 any more plus want to stick to something that is sustainable. Guess I will have to watch my food more:(

    If you are enjoying running, there is no reason to change it unless you really want to. A lot of runners bring in some form of CT (for you it is Yoga) to engage active recovery. But, if you are doing the same thing day in and day out running then your body will not adapt to become better. Think of it as a cardio version of body building. Body builders don't lift the same weight day in and day out and build muscle and strength that way. They need the added stimuli of more weight to enduce muscle growth.

    Same concept with running. If you just stop at the 3 miles 3 times a week, that is what your body will become used to and eventually your body will have adapted as far as it needs to maintain that activity level. The calorie burn drops, and the running just becomes another activity in your every day life. But, if you add different stimuli (hills, intervals, speed sessions, varying long runs) then you are constantly creating some form of stress that your body has to adjust to which means cardio improvement...which in us runner's language means we can run faster or longer in the same period of time so maintaining the average calorie/hr burn.

    Training progress may stop, but, if weight stays the same, the calorie expenditure will also stay the same. It does not drop. Over an extended period of time, mechanical efficiency "might" result in a decreased energy demand, but the decrease is not that great. Professional cyclists who ride hundreds of miles per week have only shown a 3%-5% improvement in "mechanical efficiency" over 5 years, so I hardly think the average jogger is going to see much difference in the course of a few weeks.

    People constantly confuse training effect with caloric expenditure. Varying the training stimulus is essential for making continued improvement in fitness level and performance. However, varying exercise activity has no independent effect on calorie burn. As I have said before, it will likely decrease calorie burn because the person won't be able to push themselves as hard during the new activity.

    The only indirect effect that what you are describing will have is that improved training will increase fitness level, which will in turn allow the exerciser to work at higher workloads and thus burn more calories. However, that is a result of the higher fitness level, not because of "muscle confusion".

    Can you direct me to the links supporting your quote about cyclists mechanical improvements of 3-5% ??