Could I possibly be allergic to gluten?...

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  • JaneLane33
    JaneLane33 Posts: 80 Member
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    You are probably just overeating mixed with some constipation. white bread and cheese can cause constipation if you are eating a diet mainly of that or eating much more than you normally do. 4 or 5 slices of bread with cheese is quite a bit of bread and cheese. Cut back on the bread and cheese and eat some veggies and high fiber things with plenty of fluids.
  • dvisser1
    dvisser1 Posts: 788 Member
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    Why is Gluten the latest whipping boy in nutrition?

    Unless you have Celieac's or IBS, or have a family history of same, statistically speaking, the odds of it being a gluten intolerance are low but it is still possible. You may want to consider getting checked for these conditions. Allergy testing should be done by a reliable medical specialist, should you decided to go that way. It can be inconclusive, though, unless you start breaking out in hives or undergoing anaphylaxis.

    If you don't otherwise have a known lactose intolerance, I wouldn't start blaming the cheese.

    unfortunately gluten sensitivity allergies are becoming more and more common. Just like peanuts over the past 25 years.

    Celiac's is an autoimmune disease that is passed hereditarily. If you have the genetic marker for it, Celiac's can flare up at any time. My mother has Celiac's, diagnosed less than 2 years ago and shes in her 60s. There is both a blood protein test and a genetic marker test that can be done. A lot of doctors still don't order tests for Celiac's very often, but if you are concerned just insist on having the test run. You have to load up on gluten the night before having your blood drawn for the protein test

    An allergist can run a straight forward gluten allergy test. Most allergy tests are run on the skin, and gluten is less reactive than say strawberry juice. If the allergist is properly experienced, they can run the test properly.

    A friend of mine has what is referred to as a gluten sensitivity. He is not allergic to it, but his body struggles to digest gluten and too much gluten for to long will cause damage to his intestines. It was the pain from that damage that caused him to go through a number of tests before figuring it out. A gluten free diet for several months allowed the damage to heal, but he now needs to limit how much gluten he eats. Bread now and then is ok, but not everyday.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
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    bloating after eating cheese = Lactose Intolerance
  • suzyfj8
    suzyfj8 Posts: 257 Member
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    I have been diagnosed with IBS and get similar symptoms-really bad cramping, bloating and constipation, I am still in the stages of finding my triggers so I can avoid them, so maybe find what the triggers are i.e. white bread or wholemeal bread and try to limit it.
  • ProfEAR
    ProfEAR Posts: 2 Member
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    :heart: I wondered about some allergies myself, but I always figured that I didn't have any because non of my family members seemed to have any. I wanted some peace of mind, and I got it after I realized that I could order my own tests anytime.

    Its crazy, because I didn't know that you don't have to have prescription to order blood tests for Diabetes, Heart conditions, Allergies and a tons of other things. It was so worth it to me. Good luck with your journey! I am pretty new, so I am just starting to enjoy the site!
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 9,988 Member
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    bloating after eating cheese = Lactose Intolerance

    bloating after eating five slices of cheese a day also = water retention from all that sodium
  • 1971jamie
    1971jamie Posts: 34 Member
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    Like you, I absolutely love fresh-out-the-oven bread... I often used to eat half a loaf it on its own, no toppings, for a meal.

    I suffered from various symptoms for years: continous almost hayfever-like symptoms of blocked nose (rhinitis), horrible claggy throat, especially at night which lead to me waking up 20-30 times some nights fighting for breath (sleep apnoea), general sluggish feeling, bad aches in knees and elbows, and various other things.

    One day I just got sick of it all and started to read up on allergies, and discovered that most of the above are symptoms of a wheat allergy (as opposed to gluten allergy) - it is a particular protein in the wheat grain that isn't present in oats, barley, and other grains.

    I didn't really believe it could be that simple to be honest, but thought it was worth a go, so decided to be very strict for a week and cut oout anything containing wheat...

    That proved much harder than I thought - when you study ingedients lists of foods (I'm no cook so I tend to buy pre-prepared... yeh, I know, bad!!) - but the point is that almost everything you buy contaings wheat - because it is a cheap bulker. Things you'd never imagine contain wheat, do!

    Anyway, literally within 2 days I felt a lot better, I was shocked by how quickly my symptoms went away, particularly the rhinitis and nasty throat mucus gunge...

    I thought it must be coincidence, so after the week I went back to my "normal" diet - and I could literally feel the symptoms coming back within an hour of having a a big wheaty bread meal followed by cake, biscuits etc.

    So, I stuck to wheat free - and the symtoms stayed away...

    Six months or so later, I again tried going back to wheat, and again the symptoms came right back, and quickly too.

    Now, getting on for 3 years later, I've kept away from wheat, and kept all the symptoms away... I have the occassional sandwich or bread or something maybe if out with people, or friends have made a meal or something, so as not to cause too much fuss and inconvenience... I can get away with one wheaty meal perhaps couple of times a week - but more than that and the wheat seems to "build up in the system" and I'm feeling yukky again.

    So my advice is this: ignore other people's opinions on the wheat/gluten allergy debate, including your doctor's, and just try it out yourself properly, making sure to check all food for traces of wheat, and log the results objectively... if you feel better after a while, then go back on wheat again and see what happens to check it wasn't just conincidnce... if you have a reaction of some kind to foods containing wheat/gluten, then you ARE allergic to them, regardless of someone else's opinion on the matter!!!

    At the end of the day the objective is to make you feel better and maintain a better quality of life - who gives a stuff whether other people think your allergy is "imagined" or not???? Screw them!

    Hope that helps!
  • april1445
    april1445 Posts: 334
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    It sounds like you're gluten intolerant, which I know has become a nutritional buzzword, but that doesn't mean it's not real. Some people develop an inflammatory response to gluten, which is not the same as celiac disease. There's no test for it, (unlike celiac), other than elimination, and see how you feel. good luck. The book Wheat Belly has tons of information on it.
  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
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    See a doctor if you suspect you've got an intolerance.
  • Melmade
    Melmade Posts: 349 Member
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    So off the gluten subject... Your real question might be... how do I get my weight loss back on track? I suggest checking out "Zig-zag diet". Lots of people on MFP have turned plateaus around, or successfully lost weight with it. Sounds like you've already upped your calories a bit. Try going back to what you were doing a couple days a week, and upping the calories a couple days a week as well. Your metabolism may react well.
  • jayrudq
    jayrudq Posts: 503 Member
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    Don't you have your answer? Eating lots of bread and cheese makes you feel sick. Stop eating lots of bread and cheese. I am not trying to be snarky or mean, but it seems pretty simple to me. And you admittedly have a problem with overeating bread, so it is probably something you want to stay away from, no?
    Whatever you choose to do, good luck! And get back to that yoga class! :wink:
  • mkgirl425
    mkgirl425 Posts: 11 Member
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    You are very astute to link the or way you are feeling to eating bread and cheeses. I have been following a blog/website by JJ Virgin for the past year or so and what she has to say makes all the sense in the world. She feels that our bodies are ever changing, and at certain periods in our life, we become "sensitive" to certain foods. She recommends removing these inflammatory foods from our diets for a period of 21 days and then re-testing them to see how the body reacts...i.e..to see if you are sensitive to that food. I have been following this for the past two weeks and have lost 10 pounds so far. Check out her website and book, Lost 7 pounds in 7 days by dropping 7 foods (or something like that). Good luck in your weight journey. I have many pounds to go in mine, but am very optimistic since finding this source.
  • Missjulesdid
    Missjulesdid Posts: 1,444 Member
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    I discovered my sensitivity to wheat by doing a very strict lengthy elimination diet. when it was eliminated from my diet, I had no reflux, and my joint pain was nearly nonexistent.... when I reintroduced it into my diet, the reflux returned and my joints were so bad I could barely walk after working a 7 hour shift on my feet and I couldn't open or close my hands all the way. I don't know if it's the gluten in the wheat or something else about it, but it's DEFINITELY WHEAT that was causing my issues. I should mention that the changes didn't happen right away. The reflux appeared/disappeared quickly when introducing/eliminating wheat, but the joint problems took a few weeks. It's not like I'd eat a piece of bread and suddenly I couldn't walk.. the problem was cumulative. The joint pain would get progressively worse the more wheat products I ate and the longer I ate them.

    I have to admit that I was hoping that my issues were not dietary and if they were that it would be maybe from dairy.. I could give up dairy. I was HORRIFIED to learn that my issues were with wheat.
  • 1971jamie
    1971jamie Posts: 34 Member
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    I discovered my sensitivity to wheat by doing a very strict lengthy elimination diet. when it was eliminated from my diet, I had no reflux, and my joint pain was nearly nonexistent.... when I reintroduced it into my diet, the reflux returned and my joints were so bad I could barely walk after working a 7 hour shift on my feet and I couldn't open or close my hands all the way. I don't know if it's the gluten in the wheat or something else about it, but it's DEFINITELY WHEAT that was causing my issues. I should mention that the changes didn't happen right away. The reflux appeared/disappeared quickly when introducing/eliminating wheat, but the joint problems took a few weeks. It's not like I'd eat a piece of bread and suddenly I couldn't walk.. the problem was cumulative. The joint pain would get progressively worse the more wheat products I ate and the longer I ate them.

    I have to admit that I was hoping that my issues were not dietary and if they were that it would be maybe from dairy.. I could give up dairy. I was HORRIFIED to learn that my issues were with wheat.

    Very similar to me... my research/reading suggested it was a particular protein in wheat rather than the gluten that was the cause of the problems, and I don't seem to have the same problems with wheat-free (but not necessarily gluten-free) foods. As a kid I has asthma, and was diagnosed allergic to grass amongst other things - wheat being a type of grass of course. Excercise brought on the asthma really bad, leading to being an unfit (but not particularly overweight) kid/teenager. These days the connection has been identified and is now called exercise-induced anaphylaxis - during excercise the wheat protein enters the blood stream where it causes a severe allergic reaction/anaphylaxis... if only that link was made when I was a kid!

    Totally understand the joints thing and not being able to open your hands... mine got so bad at one point after working very hard for several days, and of course eating nothing but sandwiches basically(!!) that I literally couldn't climb the stairs when I got home that night, partner had to drag me up... was in such agony I couldn't even shower myself. Horrible. More horrible because I absolutely adore fresh bread! - but I know I can't have it.

    So to everyone I recommend strictly cutting ANYTHING containing wheat out of your diet for at least a week, and just see if there is any difference - you've nothing to lose, and potentially a *much* better life to gain if you are suffering from lots of niggling symptoms.

    I was super-cynical it could be that simple an answer to all my problems, seemed to good to be true. But for me, and several friends now I've persuaded to give wheat up, it has been life-changing.
  • MyJourney1960
    MyJourney1960 Posts: 1,133 Member
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    you say you are also eating a lot of cheese - you could also be experiencing lactose intolerance. but bottom line is that your eating is out of control so --- try getting a handle on that (overeating) and see what happens
  • emelia_
    emelia_ Posts: 91
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    Sure, some people have gluten sensitivity or allergies. You could also just be thinking you do because it's a fad diet right now and everyone is doing it. Don't jump on the gluten free bandwagon until you get tested. It's expensive and at first you may lose weight but a lot of the gluten free foods out there are less nutrient dense.
  • Missjulesdid
    Missjulesdid Posts: 1,444 Member
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    Sure, some people have gluten sensitivity or allergies. You could also just be thinking you do because it's a fad diet right now and everyone is doing it. Don't jump on the gluten free bandwagon until you get tested. It's expensive and at first you may lose weight but a lot of the gluten free foods out there are less nutrient dense.

    It's not expensive. Just don't buy any of the "gluten-free" products. The only thing I still do is I'll make corn tortillas sometimes and have them instead of flour when I want something bread-like other than that I don't eat wheat OR any of the substitutes out there as the substitutes are pretty much just straight up starch with no real nutritive value.
  • 1971jamie
    1971jamie Posts: 34 Member
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    Sure, some people have gluten sensitivity or allergies. You could also just be thinking you do because it's a fad diet right now and everyone is doing it. Don't jump on the gluten free bandwagon until you get tested. It's expensive and at first you may lose weight but a lot of the gluten free foods out there are less nutrient dense.

    Amazing how ignorant some people can be... just because they don't personally suffer the misery that Wheat unfortunately causes some of us, it must be "a fad"... As I have and others have said, many of us absolutely love bread and other wheat-products, but unfortunately it doesn't love us. It's cheap, filling and tasty - I'd eat it all the time if I could...

    Man was desinged to run on protein/fat (and to very easily and efficiently store fat for hard times), we were not designed to run on wheat/gluten/quick-fix-carbs... it is simple science, and a wonder that as many people tolerate such an alien food as they do really. Humans might as well eat gravel or nuts and bolts as wheat for all the good it really does us. It is just a cheap bulking agent that food companies make by far the most profit out of, which is why it is in virtually everything you buy pre-prepared. Unless you have the skills, budget and time to prepare all your meals yourself so you know exactly what is in them, wheat is very hard to avoid.

    Let's all hope you don't get one of those terminal cancer or heart disease "fads"... cancer and heart disease seem to be affecting a lot of people right now, so they're probably just "trendy fads" too by your logic.
  • daybehavior
    daybehavior Posts: 1,319 Member
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    Let's all hope you don't get one of those terminal cancer or heart disease "fads"... cancer and heart disease seem to be affecting a lot of people right now, so they're probably just "trendy fads" too by your logic.

    That's a horrible analogy and I'll just leave it that. But consider: less than one percent of the population actually has celiac's but apparently everyone and their mom on MFP has it. So yeah like or not, things like Aspergers, gluten sensitivity, and bipolar disorder quickly become national buzzwords and subsequently maladies of the week. Blame lazy doctors, haphazard diagnostics and people wanting to feel like special snowflakes.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
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    Why is Gluten the latest whipping boy in nutrition?

    Unless you have Celieac's or IBS, or have a family history of same, statistically speaking, the odds of it being a gluten intolerance are low but it is still possible. You may want to consider getting checked for these conditions. Allergy testing should be done by a reliable medical specialist, should you decided to go that way. It can be inconclusive, though, unless you start breaking out in hives or undergoing anaphylaxis.

    If you don't otherwise have a known lactose intolerance, I wouldn't start blaming the cheese.

    unfortunately gluten sensitivity allergies are becoming more and more common.
    Actually there is no evidence of that. It's just that every time someone has any slight problem they now blame it on Gluten with no actual diagnosis or evidence backing it up