pre and post workout

Pre: Large dose of EAAs.
Post: Another dose of EAAs with food.

2 part question.
1. What do you do/eat before you workout to prep to ensure that you have the energy to get through your workout.
2. what do you do or eat post workout

1. Coffee with 1/2&1/2 and creatine.
2. Food. Usually eggs, but not always. Whatever the case is, food.

I have been having issues burning out and/or throwing up when i do t25 and my muscles are usually sore for days afterwards(like 3-5 days). Am I just overdoing it? If I can't handle t25 then what should i be doing workout wise? I guess that's more then 2 questions.

With T25, you basically go all out for 25 minutes. Yeah - I'd imagine lots of people throw up doing this - especially if they ate too soon before working out.

When I get up at 4:50 in the morning to workout which is most mornings, I don't eat anything...I can't stomach food that early in the morning. I just eat a normal light breakfast afterwards, coffee, banana, oatmeal, yogurt, toast, etc.

personally, i think that any thing thats not food, or a suppliment that's replacing a macro like protein or carbs, is a total waste of money and perhaps even potentially dangerous.

there was some preworkout suppliment on the news and they were saying that it made people test positive for meth lol. i mean thats basically an alarmist point of view, but still.

That PreWO supp was DS Craze.
I used it for a couple months.....I liked it, better than other PreWOs

Some can be a waste of money and some can be dangerous.....
But not all.

Amino Acids: The body has 20, 9 are essential. Essential meaning our bodies do not produce them.

For me it totally depends on which kind of workout I'm doing. I do a 90 minute HIIT kettlebell workout three times a week and I eat at least 25 grams of carbs and 25 grams of protein before, and the same after. Usually that looks like eggs with a bit of milk and a slice of toast before and a protein shake with half a banana after. I do some light workouts: half an hour of biking, half an hour of kayaking, half an hour of pulling the kids in a wagon on a trail a few times a week, and I don't do anything special for those. Generally they're after a snack and before lunch or supper. I may even do them fasted if I get my *kitten* up out of bed in time to do them in the morning before my husband goes to work, then I just eat a normal breakfast. My tri training is my most demanding nutrition prep workout. On Saturdays currently I bike ~20 miles, run ~4miles, and kayak ~6 miles back to back. I'm still fine tuning the nutrients for that, but this last Friday night I ate 8 ounces of tilapia stir fried with 1 cup of brown rice in 1 tablespoon of olive oil with some onions and arugula for ~600 calories. The next morning I had refrigerator oatmeal with some greek yogurt, a banana and powdered peanut butter. I replaced carbs and electrolytes during the workout with 1/2 strength gator aid, about 2 quarts. Could have used more because I was so exhausted by the end that I totally failed at exiting the kayak and dumped my *kitten* into the freezing water. Afterwards I had a recovery meal of the exact same thing I ate Friday night for my carb loading and then had a nap. No cravings afterwards, so I think that was pretty on track.

i'm just saying, if its not protein, carbs or fat (or creatine, but that probably fits into one of those catagories lol) it doesn't actually supply your body with any energy to do work.

So, to me, its basically something to put you in the right place psychologically to have a good work out.

there are plenty of other ways to do that.

Hmm....perhaps.....
But water is not a fat, carb or protein.....but I am sure you ingest it no?

BCAAs (if they are just BCAA without any added caffeine or whatever) do not put you in the "right place psychologically".......
They offer no other benefit other than protecting your muscles from being used as an energy source.
Creatine, glutamine, both are created by the body.
BCAA/EAA are not, but we do get them when we eat meat or dairy foods.

So like I said, not all supps are bad, when used according to how they were intended.
If you disregard the directions, then perhaps you can cause problems for yourself.

i'm just saying, if its not protein, carbs or fat (or creatine, but that probably fits into one of those catagories lol) it doesn't actually supply your body with any energy to do work.

So, to me, its basically something to put you in the right place psychologically to have a good work out.

there are plenty of other ways to do that.

Hmm....perhaps.....
But water is not a fat, carb or protein.....but I am sure you ingest it no?

BCAAs (if they are just BCAA without any added caffeine or whatever) do not put you in the "right place psychologically".......
They offer no other benefit other than protecting your muscles from being used as an energy source.
Creatine, glutamine, both are created by the body.
BCAA/EAA are not, but we do get them when we eat meat or dairy foods.

So like I said, not all supps are bad, when used according to how they were intended.
If you disregard the directions, then perhaps you can cause problems for yourself.

to be honest with you, i don't know a whole lot about BCAA. I don't know if your body can exploite them for energy, but, to me its basically protein which i said was useful preworkout.

i think creatine also comes from dietery sources.

obviously water is good for you, but doesn't give you any energy

So then we agree?
Some supps can be good for you?

I have not done a Pre-WO supps since prolly June or July and that was DS Craze.
Since doing LeanGains, I feel as energized and focused if not more than what the supps I took made me.

i'm just saying, if its not protein, carbs or fat (or creatine, but that probably fits into one of those catagories lol) it doesn't actually supply your body with any energy to do work.

So, to me, its basically something to put you in the right place psychologically to have a good work out.

there are plenty of other ways to do that.

Hmm....perhaps.....
But water is not a fat, carb or protein.....but I am sure you ingest it no?

BCAAs (if they are just BCAA without any added caffeine or whatever) do not put you in the "right place psychologically".......
They offer no other benefit other than protecting your muscles from being used as an energy source.
Creatine, glutamine, both are created by the body.
BCAA/EAA are not, but we do get them when we eat meat or dairy foods.

So like I said, not all supps are bad, when used according to how they were intended.
If you disregard the directions, then perhaps you can cause problems for yourself.

to be honest with you, i don't know a whole lot about BCAA. I don't know if your body can exploite them for energy, but, to me its basically protein which i said was useful preworkout.

i think creatine also comes from dietery sources.

obviously water is good for you, but doesn't give you any energy

So then we agree?
Some supps can be good for you?

I have not done a Pre-WO supps since prolly June or July and that was DS Craze.
Since doing LeanGains, I feel as energized and focused if not more than what the supps I took made me.

yes i agree. but personally i haven't spent money on anything other then whey in years. and its got some bcaa's in it anyway. actually thats not true, i've gotten a tub or two of post workout stuff in the past year, but i typically just dump a certain amount of dextrose into my whey, which is basically the same as the post workout stuff i'd spend a lot more on from gnc, vitamen shoppe, or any online vendor.

yes i agree. but personally i haven't spent money on anything other then whey in years. and its got some bcaa's in it anyway. actually thats not true, i've gotten a tub or two of post workout stuff in the past year, but i typically just dump a certain amount of dextrose into my whey, which is basically the same as the post workout stuff i'd spend a lot more on from gnc, vitamen shoppe, or any online vendor.

Yep, aside from Whey, BCAA, glutamine, and creatine....I don't buy any thing else....
I kinda feel it a waste of money.

But to each his own.