Is it scientifically harder to lose the last 10lbs?

Or is it psychological ?

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  • gigglesinthesun
    gigglesinthesun Posts: 860 Member
    it is perhaps that the closer you get to the goal weight the more accurate you have to be and also you are less likely to maintain a large daily deficit at that point, but I have no scientific evidence to back this up
  • KateK8LoseW8
    KateK8LoseW8 Posts: 824 Member
    The reason it's harder to lose "the last 10 lb" or any weight, really, when you're already at a healthy weight is because your calorie deficit is smaller. The smaller the deficit, the slower the loss.

    At my highest weight, my TDEE with exercise 3 times per week was about 2350. I could lose 2 lb per week (1000 calorie deficit) by eating 1350 calories, which is a bit low, but not extreme as long as I was eating nutrient-rich foods. At my current weight, my TDEE with exercise 3 times per week is 1985. Eating the absolute bare minimum of 1200 calories (which I do not) creates a deficit of only 785 calories, or 1.57 pounds per week. When I get into last ten pounds territory, my TDEE with exercise 3 times per week will be 1900. Eating at 1200, I would only be able to lose 1.4 pounds per week.

    And anyone who is exercising at all should be eating more than 1200 calories. So yes, it is physiologically more difficult to lose the last 10 pounds.
  • I guess it's both then. Thanks for taking the time to show your calculations.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    I think with me I get to a weight I feel good enough at and then stop doing what I need to get that last little be off.
  • I suspect that's what I'm doing too mockchoc!
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Or is it psychological ?

    probably, especially if the goal weight is somewhat arbitrary for example getting to 30% fat shouldn't be "scientifically harder" than getting to 25% but 15% might be A Different Thing (TM)
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    I suspect that's what I'm doing too mockchoc!

    Really need to get back into it since I put a little back on and I'm not ok with that! We need to do this!
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Totally psychological, considering we all have different goal weights and expectations of what our 'last 10 lbs' should be.
  • markiend
    markiend Posts: 461 Member
    I feel sure that ( for example) somebody trying to lose 50lbs ... might get 40lbs down... and then the willpower starts to wane. Being happy about your changes is the best thing... no matter how much you have lost or still want to lose. I feel sure many stop as they get nearer to their ultimate goal and think... yeah that'll do...

    Some seem to aim 5lbs below their target to allow for fluctuations when they get there...

    1 last push to the finish line... cmon... you can do it :flowerforyou:
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    The last 10lbs are generally 'vanity pounds' when a person is a healthy weight already... So it's hard to get rid of that fat as it only needs a small deficit and a lot of work and patience!
  • chelstakencharge
    chelstakencharge Posts: 1,021 Member
    It is harder for me...
  • Mischievous_Rascal
    Mischievous_Rascal Posts: 1,791 Member
    It just takes longer. Also, if you've been in a calories deficit for a long time, you'll GAIN once you start eating at maintenance and your body restores your glycogen levels and the water needed to store it in. I plan on losing about five pounds less than goal, so I'll level off where I want to be.
  • jhoyett
    jhoyett Posts: 92 Member
    I don't have the science to support it, but I truly think it's harder. The closer you get to your ideal weight, the harder it is to lose...even if you're doing EVERYTHING right!
  • soupandcookies
    soupandcookies Posts: 212 Member
    For me? Psychological. Most def.
  • rbear713
    rbear713 Posts: 220 Member
    It IS both. NO DOUBT. Physiologically harder because our bodies are already at a healthy weight already - the less total fat you have, the harder it is to lose the same ten lbs. in fact it gets Exponentially harder.. - its easier to get rid of 10lbs out of 100lbs of total body fat (10%) than 10lbs out of, say 25 lbs of total body fat (40%), or 10lbs out of 20lbs total body fat (50%).....

    Psychologically its harder because of a skewed perception we all have regarding "the last ten pounds." My ultimate goal weight is a little bit PAST what I thought I could get to. My last ten pounds are about thirteen pounds away right now. At a pound or a little less a week, Ill be at this a while. Once I get there, I will reevaluate, and probably decide I might be able to go a little lower, thus, establishing a new "last ten pounds"

    For me, the fun part is in the tryin!!
  • KeViN_v2pt0
    KeViN_v2pt0 Posts: 375 Member
    Or is it psychological ?

    YES
  • Boogage
    Boogage Posts: 739 Member
    For me it was psychological. The weight loss slowed a bit and I wondered if I'd make it but with perseverance the 10lbs came off quickly along with another 5 once I'd stopped worrying. I'm at the lower end of healthy weight for my height btw.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I have no science to back this up at all, but I really think the human body does not like to be super lean. I lost weight very easily until I hit a healthy BF% for my stats...once I hit the upper reaches of a healthy BF% things slowed down dramatically...it seems that I really have to be spot on in RE to my calories and what I'm eating to get below about 18% - 19% BF...going from 30% to 19% was a breeze.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    Physiological.

    Your body is trying to prioritise fat stores for survival. You have to fight to persuade it to drop fat, rather than less essential tissue such as muscle and bone density. Your deficit needs to get smaller and your training needs to incorporate some progressive resistance.

    This leads to things slowing down significantly, which I guess has a psychological impact on some people. But, if you understand and accept that that extra bit of leanness is going to be a slower grind, then it shouldn't be too psychologically tough.
  • shapefitter
    shapefitter Posts: 900 Member
    You are all incorrect. The fitter you get, the more you need to eat. It isn't in your mind. I have been my ideal weight all my adult life, and to loose an extra inch of my waist was practically impossible. I did arobics 16 hours a week, and swimming three times a week, and I had a 31 inch waist, and I am 5'8. Measure yourself rather than using the scales.
  • ElliottTN
    ElliottTN Posts: 1,614 Member
    It is only because the way you are looking at it. 10 lbs is an arbitrary number. Think of it in terms of bf %

    When you were much larger than dropping 10lbs was easier because you were losing a smaller amount of bf%. When you are your last 10 pounds that could translate to a much larger loss of bf% than when you were 60 pounds heavier.

    Kinda exaggerated but someone who is 160 lbs dropping 10lbs could be comparable to someone who is 250 lbs dropping 30 lbs in terms of equal bf% drop. This is a very very inaccurate example because I really don't feel like busting out a calculator on Monday morning but you get the point.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    I have been my ideal weight all my adult life, and to loose an extra inch of my waist was practically impossible.

    Then, I humbly submit, you were doing it wrong.

    What is this "ideal weight" you speak of? How did you arrive at it?

    If it was so ideal, why were you trying to lose an inch off your waist?
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I'd say it's slower, not harder.

    Personally, the first ten were harder for me, even though it was faster. Counting calories, regular exercise, making better choices... it was all new to me then. Actually, admitting I needed to lose weight was the hardest part. :laugh:
  • teamAmelia
    teamAmelia Posts: 1,247 Member
    Your body doesn't know that your goal is X pounds.
  • teamAmelia
    teamAmelia Posts: 1,247 Member
    I feel sure that ( for example) somebody trying to lose 50lbs ... might get 40lbs down... and then the willpower starts to wane. Being happy about your changes is the best thing... no matter how much you have lost or still want to lose. I feel sure many stop as they get nearer to their ultimate goal and think... yeah that'll do...

    Some seem to aim 5lbs below their target to allow for fluctuations when they get there...

    1 last push to the finish line... cmon... you can do it :flowerforyou:

    I initially thought that, too and changed my mind bc someone who is wondering why they're not losing weight couldn't possibly be slacking off, right? But, I think it's possible for them to not work as hard bc they see such good results and feel that they don't have to workout as much as they did in the beginning.
  • shapefitter
    shapefitter Posts: 900 Member
    Also if you logg everything on MFP, you'll see some numbers will change i.e. for every 10Lb you loose, 5 kcal is subtracted for each activity. So, a few more minutes, is needed on the threadmill for example, than when you where 10Lb heavier.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    It's harder in the sense that your fat stores are smaller so your body can't support as high a caloric deficit as before. So the weight comes off slower. But if you were a hyper active person (like a professional athlete) then you could create a huge deficit by increasing TDEE, and lose that last bit of weight at a more rapid pace.